Euro-Jay & the Pharaoh Nas .....Follow me

H-Rap 180 · July 2011

-Vincenzo- wrote: »

as much as i love nas music and would like to buy into his pro africa shit, truth is niggas like him and the father of his new companion, Bob Marley, are only pro-black when it comes to talkin.

while jay-z is a married man that broke the cycle of the dysfunctional black family and is barely known for takin drugs or other ignorant shit at least during the last decade, nas is the personified ignorance. nigga appears on the high times promotin drug use and has 2 kids with known sluts that will grow up in a house without their daddy.

if black people had more jay-zs and less nasirs we as whole would be much better off.

Are you mixed??

There is no Pro-Africa there is only cultural awareness of your heritage and the pride that comes with knowing who you are and from where you came from.

There is no Pro-Black there is only group-consciousness for the overall advancement for the group that you belong to.

Im sure "American Gangster" wasn't ignorant in your opinion and that it incorporated all the wholesome family values that a rapper should personify.

dan_the_man.com · July 2011

whatever happen to tha jay-z / water in afrika thing a few years back?

gman82 · July 2011

Good observation. Nas > jayz

DMTxCannabis · July 2011

Great analysis.

c1up · July 2011

dope thread, Ima spend money on a big ass Pharoah Chain

ustreet_monsta · July 2011

I cant call it like that.

Nas went out of his way to defend Eminem on the Nigger Tape.

Like Gee said, he's not really taking a stand against anything either.

Believe it or not theres a large African and Muslim population in Europe. Nothing wrong with expanding your market to Europe as long as you aren't putting White people on a pedestal to do it.

Somebody show me where Jay is elevating Whiteness over Blackness and you may have a point.

supersajinfo · July 2011

Who Cares??? wrote: »

The Africa talk is cool but what is he doing for his own community? My aunt stayed on Vernon for years. I constantly hear how Ron Artest comes back and gives more than any of the rappers. I'm sure his schedule is more chaotic than these rappers.

Ron Artest will always be that dude in my books solely for how humble he is.Folks can call him crazy but he is a real stand up guy

Cabana_Da_Don · July 2011

Ron Artes....real nigga.

H-Rap 180 · July 2011

Jonas.dini wrote: »

Only thing about nas consciousness is...
is it oochie wally or is it one mic? Is it black girl lost or shorty owe you for ice?

JayZ is considered brilliant when it comes to business but when it comes to cultural matters his I.Q. is in the single digits.

Bill O'reily would ask Tupac if his consciousness is "I get around" or "Keep ya Head up" or is it "Brendas got a Baby" or "I fucked your wife".............

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"Oochie Wally" was a club single by the Bravehearts on a Braveheart album so why compare it to "One Mic" which is a song about power, war and Soul-searching.....does having Knowledge of Self mean that you are forbidden to party and you have to live the life of a monk?

Its odd that JayZ would mention lyrics like "Shorty owe you for ice" because a club song like "You owe me" is no different from a JayZ song like "Aint no nigga"....but JayZ dosent have a song like "Black girl Lost"

Who Cares??? · July 2011

supersajinfo wrote: »

Ron Artest will always be that dude in my books solely for how humble he is.Folks can call him crazy but he is a real stand up guy

He truly is. I remember when St.Johns was playing in the Garden and Ron missed his ride to stay back and sign autographs.It was so many damn people, security had to force people to leave. Ron stayed though. If you remember Felipe Lopez, that clown was brushing fans off while he was still at Rice. When Ron was in Chicago, they reported he almost literally went broke because he was giving so much away. Talking about something only goes so far.

rip.dilla · July 2011

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ustreet_monsta · July 2011

Black Girl lost was a diss to Nas' baby moms tho.

He was mad she was hanging out in club with her hood rat friends and cheating on him with rappers and athletes who popped bottles.

It's a personal record masquerading as something socially uplifting.

Everytime Carmen would come in the crib Nas probably was walking around humming that song.

HipHopFiend91 · July 2011

ustreet_monsta wrote: »

I cant call it like that.

Nas went out of his way to defend Eminem on the Nigger Tape.

Like Gee said, he's not really taking a stand against anything either.

Believe it or not theres a large African and Muslim population in Europe. Nothing wrong with expanding your market to Europe as long as you aren't putting White people on a pedestal to do it.

Somebody show me where Jay is elevating Whiteness over Blackness and you may have a point.

thread/ i got respect for nas hes in my top 5 but u can't sit there and be for your people. But yet defend an artist who had racist tapes.

and take pics with racist ass amy whinehouse

Jonas.dini · July 2011

H-Rap 180 wrote: »

JayZ is considered brilliant when it comes to business but when it comes to cultural matters his I.Q. is in the single digits.

Bill O'reily would ask Tupac if his consciousness is "I get around" or "Keep ya Head up" or is it "Brendas got a Baby" or "I fucked your wife".............

"Oochie Wally" was a club single by the Bravehearts on a Braveheart album so why compare it to "One Mic" which is a song about power, war and Soul-searching.....does having Knowledge of Self mean that you are forbidden to party and you have to live the life of a monk?

Its odd that JayZ would mention lyrics like "Shorty owe you for ice" because a club song like "You owe me" is no different from a JayZ song like "Aint no nigga"....but JayZ dosent have a song like "Black girl Lost"

Tupac was a mess of contradiction, which made him interesting but also polluted his messaging.

samkaveli · July 2011

This is what's up more proof that Jayz is a uncle camel tom How can you Camel knights support this sell out ass nigga? SMMFH Fuck Jay z

Nas Won

HipHopFiend91 · July 2011

how is he selling out though.

H-Rap 180 · July 2011

ustreet_monsta wrote: »

I cant call it like that.

Nas went out of his way to defend Eminem on the Nigger Tape.

Like Gee said, he's not really taking a stand against anything either.

Believe it or not theres a large African and Muslim population in Europe. Nothing wrong with expanding your market to Europe as long as you aren't putting White people on a pedestal to do it.

Somebody show me where Jay is elevating Whiteness over Blackness and you may have a point.

I dont believe that you have any proof that Nas defended Emenim on the ni99er tape.

People with intelligence will say that Nas pointed out that all human creation started in Afrika so we are all "niggas" even the mutated albinos who he called "nigga-wigga-cracka" in the same song...listen to the song again for the correct interpretation.

I dont see were the T/S inferred anything about someone taking a "stand" against something.... we didnt mention his petition against Nazi-Fox news or his indictment of Americas legacy of racism we simply made an observation on Nas & JayZ' embracing the culture that they find most comfortable.

A concept album about American Gangsters or a concept album about Americas Racism

Is it Linkin Park duets or Last Poets duets

"Ghetto Techno" or "Project Roach"

"Frank Lucas" or "Farrakhan"

Luke Steele or Nneka

"I feel like a Black Republican, money I got comin' in
Can't turn my back on the hood, I got love for them
Can't clean my act up for good, too much thug in 'em
Probably end up back of the hood, I'm like 'fuck it then"

JayZ "Black Republicans"

I feel like a Black militant taking over the government
cant turn my back on the hood too much love for them
Cant clean my act up for good, too much thug in him
I'll probably end back in the hood I'm like f**k it then

Nas "Black Republicans"

Just an observation.
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rip.dilla · July 2011

H-Rap 180 wrote: »

A concept album about American Gangsters or a concept album about Americas Racism

Is it Linkin Park duets or Last Poets duets

"Ghetto Techno" or "Project Roach"

"Frank Lucas" or "Farrakhan"

Luke Steele or Nneka

Some realness spat right 'chea

NAWLEDGE_REIGNS · July 2011

Nasir Jones The GOAT

rip.dilla · July 2011

NAWLEDGE_REIGNS wrote: »

Nasir Jones The GOAT

shots fired

ustreet_monsta · July 2011

H-Rap 180 wrote: »

I dont believe that you have any proof that Nas defended Emenim on the ni99er tape.

People with intelligence will say that Nas pointed out that all human creation started in Afrika so we are all "niggas" even the mutated albinos who he called "nigga-wigga-cracka" in the same song...listen to the song again for the correct interpretation.

I dont see were the T/S inferred anything about someone taking a "stand" against something.... we didnt mention his petition against Nazi-Fox news or his indictment of Americas legacy of racism we simply made an observation on Nas & JayZ' embracing the culture that they find most comfortable.

A concept album about American Gangsters or a concept album about Americas Racism

Is it Linkin Park duets or Last Poets duets

"Ghetto Techno" or "Project Roach"

"Frank Lucas" or "Farrakhan"

Luke Steele or Nneka

"I feel like a Black Republican, money I got comin' in
Can't turn my back on the hood, I got love for them
Can't clean my act up for good, too much thug in 'em
Probably end up back of the hood, I'm like 'fuck it then"

JayZ "Black Republicans"

I feel like a Black militant taking over the government
cant turn my back on the hood too much love for them
Cant clean my act up for good, too much thug in him
I'll probably end back in the hood I'm like f**k it then

Nas "Black Republicans"

Just an observation.

I think you're cherry picking what to embrace and what to criticize about Nas and Jay.

You can spin it however you want, but those bars about Eminem being Nas' nigga/ wigger friend was about Eminem being cool because we're all humans.

The complete line is:

Not mad 'cause Eminem said nigga, 'cause he my nigga
wigga, cracker, friend - we all black within, okay?
We all African, okay
Some Africans don't like us no way!

If a rapper you didnt like had rapped that you'd be having a field day. There would be endless propaganda threads with colorful fonts and carefully right clicked pictures highlighting said rappers coonery.

It all depends what you're looking for.

You see Jay embracing White people. I see Jay embracing Obama, Cornell West, Oprah, and Will Smith.

You see Jay making Ghetto Tehcno. I see Jay helping end NY's Rockefeller Drug laws and helping out Sean Bell's widow.

You see Jay acting White. I see Jay acting like an adult.

You see Jay breaking up his record label and selling out his partners. I see a businessman leaving a risky situation to start something new.

You see Jay going European. I see Jay giving his time to charitable causes in Africa.

I guess its all a matter of perception and how your societal view is colored?

supersajinfo · July 2011

I see jay z taking 2 fully functioning labels and letting them die.Jay Z by no means is acting more adult than Nas .Yall let society's jaded view of adult hood confuse yall.Nas and Jay Z both act adults and both walk around in two different worlds .

ustreet_monsta · July 2011

supersajinfo wrote: »

I see jay z taking 2 fully functioning labels and letting them die.Jay Z by no means is acting more adult than Nas .Yall let society's jaded view of adult hood confuse yall.Nas and Jay Z both act adults and both walk around in two different worlds .

^Is this what acting like an adult is to you?

Bklyn's_OX_KING · July 2011

M.I.A. says

“Jay became the biggest representation of rap music who’s still alive, started dating Beyoncé, everything was so much bigger and better with Jay-Z. I hope people don’t think that that wins.

“The fact that Nas didn’t become all this sort of stuff changes people’s perception about the music and the work he achieved in his lifetime. I don’t wanna say Jay-Z sold out, but I just feel like we have to wait another 10 years to see what happens.

“Jay-Z’s ambition was to become like Frank Sinatra, a household name all over the planet, and own a casino in Vegas and stuff like that. And I think Nas was really sticking to knowledge. I still think the biggest point about hip-hop is in there somewhere, what happens to those two artists

DMTxCannabis · July 2011

ustreet_monsta wrote: »

^Is this what acting like an adult is to you?

Aside from Nas making a bold statement, Kelis coulda got it that night.

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