Can Em tell a story in his songs like Nas' "Shootouts" ?

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  • The_ManThe_Man Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    Cain_Marko wrote: »
    Lol..........if you take Kim, drugs, and trying to kill his mom the only thing you have is Asher Roth.


    And what does nas tell storys of? getting back from vegas to find his wife getting fucked then shooting them both then shooting himself, or a story backwards about shooting somebody? or shootouts?
  • KeepinItHundredKeepinItHundred Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    Psycho_ wrote: »
    it's less impressive given that pharoahe monch came up with that concept first.


    plus he did it from a bullets perspective

    but if we do that than stan isn't impressive because nas did the letter thing first.

    in fact any story telling song isn't impressive because sllick rick brought it to the table as a whole.
  • KeepinItHundredKeepinItHundred Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    And what does nas tell storys of? getting back from vegas to find his wife getting fucked then shooting them both then shooting himself, or a story backwards about shooting somebody? or shootouts?

    you're missing the point that eminem isn't as vivid as nas is
  • CainCain The audacity of you fuck niggas Cyttorax DimensionPosts: 42,714 Regulator
    edited December 2011
    And what does nas tell storys of? getting back from vegas to find his wife getting fucked then shooting them both then shooting himself, or a story backwards about shooting somebody? or shootouts?

    Huh? Nas's is one of the most versatile emcees in the game. He can go gangsta, political,and storytelling. Do yourself a favor and peep his catalog.
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    Just been through it all man
    Blood sweat and tears
    Niggaz is dead and shit
    What the fuck else can happen yo?
    I dont think much more son, word to mother yo
    We done seen it all, and been through it all yo
    Let y'all niggaz know right now
    Word to mother, for real, for real
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  • SloGGySloGGy Posts: 282 ✭✭
    edited December 2011
    plus he did it from a bullets perspective

    but if we do that than stan isn't impressive because nas did the letter thing first.

    in fact any story telling song isn't impressive because sllick rick brought it to the table as a whole.

    there's building on an existing idea and putting a twist on it, & then there is straight lifting another person's idea. the former shows you have a brain ... I have absolutely no respect for the latter. anyways .. all this is subjective and you losers can argue in circles all day if you want. that bullshit marshall song was my cue to leave though ...


    enjoy
  • The_ManThe_Man Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    Cain_Marko wrote: »
    Huh? Nas's is one of the most versatile emcees in the game. He can go gangsta, political,and storytelling. Do yourself a favor and peep his catalog.

    I spend money on all nas albums except hhid and untitled, im a nas fan and agree with you, my argument is that em is just as good as far as story telling is concerned..watch all of this vid and you might understand what im sayin..
  • KeepinItHundredKeepinItHundred Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    I spend money on all nas albums except hhid and untitled, im a nas fan and agree with you, my argument is that em is just as good as far as story telling is concerned..watch all of this vid and you might understand what im sayin..

    yeah, i guess...
  • The_ManThe_Man Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    yeah, i guess...

    my work here is done haha
  • KeepinItHundredKeepinItHundred Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    my work here is done haha

    my fault, i forgot it's hard to detect sarcasm on forums.
  • EsiamEsiam Posts: 1,533 ✭✭
    edited December 2011
  • yeah i rap so don't yeah i rap so don't Posts: 3,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011

    Nas is GOAT, but this is my favorite story telling track by Eminem
    How many dudes have you really shot
    you rely on muscle memory no wonder you forgot
    how stupid can you be,I'm world class,who you teaching ass
    you got broad shoulders prom queen, carry that
    your top five lists can not be taken seriously (naw)
    when the reaper takes them all seriously (yeah)
    you should have died as one of your moms cramps
    fuck around get your skull turned into boot camp (ha)
    I am not the one who you want to have bothered
    your mom water shouldn't have broke if Moses was your father (hungh)
    I just stepped out the nexus to answer who next is
    what perplexes me is you all know I'm sicker,you disagree
    you iller?, make your move Nomad (damn)
    I got better reflexes than Body Builders
    demolition man, is he stallone,snipes,or the reem
    all you self-centered clowns can't stop the dream (stupid)

    The essence of my pubescence was stick to the lessons
    Keep the substance in the artwork solid,no need for stressin
    Shit, rap smoke and mirrors
    I aint dyin' off the second hand from the reflection of another man
    Not tryin' to hear who you think more clever, it whatever
    Dead at the same time, they toe-to-toe, neck-and-neck forever
    Dexterity is dexter, my pressure is impressing
    Buffalo Bill, but the victims doing the cross-dressing
    You nobodies get piled in the bathtub
    why you think it's called the rest room
    The brand is new, just call it a flesh-wound
    Word is born, who needs a flesh womb
    If I diss you, better just take that
    I coin phrases,Harvey Dent aint got the balls to flip that
    Sergeons need image awards if they save face
    Cave your chest in until Osama and Bruce Wayne could be roommates
    You gassed already, that's what happens when your hate unconditional
    Your favorite rappers is weak, but you virgins use to putting pussy on a pedestal
  • bankrupt ballerbankrupt baller Posts: 12,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    so stan doesnt exist?
  • DarthRozayDarthRozay Posts: 19,774 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    hell no. unless the story involves mother, kim, halley, pills, killing his mother or kim, etc. and he wouldn't be rapping he'd be shout rapping
    DMTxTHC
  • bankrupt ballerbankrupt baller Posts: 12,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    so stan doesnt exist?

    ??????????????????????????
  • CainCain The audacity of you fuck niggas Cyttorax DimensionPosts: 42,714 Regulator
    edited December 2011
    so stan doesnt exist?

    Yes it does........and? Lol Stan is a good song hell it even changed the culture with everybody using that term to speak of a annoying fan but it is no way shape or form close to the caliber of a Nas joint. Lol you know that too Bankrupt stop playing.


    Joe Buddens is pushing back his mixtape smh.
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    Just been through it all man
    Blood sweat and tears
    Niggaz is dead and shit
    What the fuck else can happen yo?
    I dont think much more son, word to mother yo
    We done seen it all, and been through it all yo
    Let y'all niggaz know right now
    Word to mother, for real, for real
    I aint ever goin back
  • bankrupt ballerbankrupt baller Posts: 12,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    Cain_Marko wrote: »
    Yes it does........and? Lol Stan is a good song hell it even changed the culture with everybody using that term to speak of a annoying fan but it is no way shape or form close to the caliber of a Nas joint. Lol you know that too Bankrupt stop playing.


    Joe Buddens is pushing back his mixtape smh.

    why you had to fuck up my day?
  • CainCain The audacity of you fuck niggas Cyttorax DimensionPosts: 42,714 Regulator
    edited December 2011
    why you had to fuck up my day?

    Cause you brought up Stan lol!!!
    I mod without feelings or remorse.


    Just been through it all man
    Blood sweat and tears
    Niggaz is dead and shit
    What the fuck else can happen yo?
    I dont think much more son, word to mother yo
    We done seen it all, and been through it all yo
    Let y'all niggaz know right now
    Word to mother, for real, for real
    I aint ever goin back
  • CainCain The audacity of you fuck niggas Cyttorax DimensionPosts: 42,714 Regulator
    edited December 2011
    sboogie wrote: »
    the thing about stan is that it is out of the realm of certain folks everyday lives...
    the people/characters in "Shootouts" is diverse and I know that I can identify with the characters and story...


    This will get overlooked for being a "black thing" smh.
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    Just been through it all man
    Blood sweat and tears
    Niggaz is dead and shit
    What the fuck else can happen yo?
    I dont think much more son, word to mother yo
    We done seen it all, and been through it all yo
    Let y'all niggaz know right now
    Word to mother, for real, for real
    I aint ever goin back
  • kingofbama205kingofbama205 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    This is a dumb thread....I'm a Nas and Em fan..I have most of there albums not all...and Both are really great storytellers in there own right...Both have lived completely different lives so they have different stories to tell...It's not em's fault if you don't understand his stories or relate to them compared to Nas's....I don't relate to ems shit at all But I respect his ability to rhyme/rap/write a good song.

    so to answer the dumb question can Em tell a story like the one Nas did..yeah he prolly could but it's not his style and anyone who has listened to him knows that.
    rap mysterio
  • CainCain The audacity of you fuck niggas Cyttorax DimensionPosts: 42,714 Regulator
    edited December 2011
    This is a dumb thread....I'm a Nas and Em fan..I have most of there albums not all...and Both are really great storytellers in there own right...Both have lived completely different lives so they have different stories to tell...It's not em's fault if you don't understand his stories or relate to them compared to Nas's....I don't relate to ems shit at all But I respect his ability to rhyme/rap/write a good song.

    so to answer the dumb question can Em tell a story like the one Nas did..yeah he prolly could but it's not his style and anyone who has listened to him knows that.

    A dumb thread received a paragraph from a smart guy like yourself....... ummmm that's very interesting.

    Off to analyze how my thread can be smarter........
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    Just been through it all man
    Blood sweat and tears
    Niggaz is dead and shit
    What the fuck else can happen yo?
    I dont think much more son, word to mother yo
    We done seen it all, and been through it all yo
    Let y'all niggaz know right now
    Word to mother, for real, for real
    I aint ever goin back
  • bankrupt ballerbankrupt baller Posts: 12,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    Cain_Marko wrote: »
    Cause you brought up Stan lol!!!

    lol
    you know i just do that to fuck with people cause they HATE joe so it gets them all fucked up lol
    but i am honestly a big fan of him
  • CainCain The audacity of you fuck niggas Cyttorax DimensionPosts: 42,714 Regulator
    edited December 2011
    lol
    you know i just do that to fuck with people cause they HATE joe so it gets them all fucked up lol
    but i am honestly a big fan of him

    Lol......its fucked up about Joes mixtape I was waiting ob it to drop but its being pushed back or scrapped altogether smh.
    I mod without feelings or remorse.


    Just been through it all man
    Blood sweat and tears
    Niggaz is dead and shit
    What the fuck else can happen yo?
    I dont think much more son, word to mother yo
    We done seen it all, and been through it all yo
    Let y'all niggaz know right now
    Word to mother, for real, for real
    I aint ever goin back
  • And_So_It_BurnsAnd_So_It_Burns Posts: 921 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    "Nas is perhaps contemporary rap's greatest innovator in storytelling. His catalog includes songs narrated before birth ('Fetus') and after death ('Amongst Kings'), biographies ('UBR [Unauthorized Biography of Rakim]') and autobiographies ('Doo Rags'), allegorical tales ('Money Is My Bitch') and epistolary ones ('One Love'), he’s rapped in the voice of a woman ('Sekou Story') and even of a gun ('I Gave You Power')."-writer Adam Bradley

    Sorry em isn't on Nas' level when it comes to the stories just accept that. Em is better at rhyme schemes tho
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  • kingofbama205kingofbama205 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    Never said I was smart I never went to college...I'm just saying it's a dumb question to ask.."Hey can Em write a song like THIS ONE"....when he's prolly never experienced any of the things Nas is talking about...They are 2 completely different types of rappers/Artist..Nas would never write a song about his mom saying nasty/disgusting shit and Em would never write a song about UFO's and all the crazy shit that's going on in the world today
  • bankrupt ballerbankrupt baller Posts: 12,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    Cain_Marko wrote: »
    Lol......its fucked up about Joes mixtape I was waiting ob it to drop but its being pushed back or scrapped altogether smh.

    well atleast the slaughterhouse album has a release date.
    also i just read what you were talking about and its the "feature presentation" album he canceled which was going to have,well features lol.
    but i think he still plans on dropping something alse in 2012
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