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Hip Hops Culture Change Now Reflecting Society

TB.BoyTB.Boy Posts: 456
edited December 2011 in The Reason
I cant say how kids are in your in your neighborhood but i dont see kids banging like i use to i see more kids skateboarding, playing sports and instruments . The culture has changed. Anyone born before 1990 probably cant understand it but we are a different breed not softer just not into to that gangsta lifestyle.

Thoughts???
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  • MAKAVELI25MAKAVELI25 Posts: 5,592
    edited December 2011
    Well......Obviously.
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  • H-Rap 180H-Rap 180 Posts: 15,453
    edited December 2011
    It's bittersweet to a degree.

    HipHop used to set the trends and rappers used to set the fads that everybody followed but somewhere along the way the artists started trying to dress like, act like, behave like, and party like Euro-Homo-Emo-Rocker-Skater-Hipsters.

    I'm pleased the kill-another-nigga era is dying out because the genocide was getting redundant.

    I'd rather see us embrace music and athletics instead of gangs and crime, but many people from outside our community would rather see the genocide make a resurgence because they find it extremely entertaining.
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  • FuriousOneFuriousOne Posts: 1,851
    edited December 2011
    Nothing they're doing is brand new. I'm 33 and i had a skateboard when i was 10. We wore tight jeans in the 80's and had as much swagger only it wasn't a gimmick. Kids think they on some champion skateboard P shit but it's just a fad. They even doing street dances like that didn't come from the 70's and 80's also. I think that the the kids are embracing more white trends as gentrification pushes the hood further into the outskirts.

    Truly, you may claim that they don't embrace gangsta shit, but i still see kids knocking heads like the kids before them. It's just not as easy to bang out and not get caught yet the recklessness is still there but with little purpose. That life style is not sustainable in this post 9/11 America (as if it ever was) but it shouldn't be at the cost of our culture. We are also seeing a resurgence of the 80's 90's rap era but with even more diverse music. But hip hop has always been diverse. Word to RunDMC rocking thata way.
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  • TB.BoyTB.Boy Posts: 456
    edited December 2011
    FuriousOne wrote: »
    Nothing they're doing is brand new. I'm 33 and i had a skateboard when i was 10. We wore tight jeans in the 80's and had as much swagger only it wasn't a gimmick. Kids think they on some champion skateboard P shit but it's just a fad. They even doing street dances like that didn't come from the 70's and 80's also. I think that the the kids are embracing more white trends as gentrification pushes the hood further into the outskirts.

    Truly, you may claim that they don't embrace gangsta shit, but i still see kids knocking heads like the kids before them. It's just not as easy to bang out and not get caught yet the recklessness is still there but with little purpose. That life style is sustainable is this post 9/11 America (as if it ever was) but it shouldn't be at the cost of our culture. We are also seeing a resurgence of the 80's 90's era rap era but with even more diverse music. But hip hop has always been diverse. Word to RunDMC rocking thata way.

    I like what you said in the bold i agree 100% i see kids fighting but not nearly as they did even when i was in middle school which wasnt to long ago. Being a gangster just isnt cool no more Skating, Rapping, playing a sport or playing a instrument is whats in, its whats popular

    Ya know?

    I appreciate your thoughts i never realized what you said in the bold..
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  • Bklyn's_OX_KINGBklyn's_OX_KING Posts: 4,866
    edited December 2011
    TB.Boy wrote: »
    I cant say how kids are in your in your neighborhood but i dont see kids banging like i use to i see more kids skateboarding, playing sports and instruments . The culture has changed. Anyone born before 1990 probably cant understand it but we are a different breed not softer just not into to that gangsta lifestyle.

    Thoughts???

    Um ..... Where are you from again and how old are you?

    I'm 31 and back in the 90's in BeD StuY Brooklyn we did all that .... there was no gangs like that ..... Just niggas getting killed for drugs, money, women, and other shit.....

    We still had fun though ..... The block parties every summer (although not the same) ..... We were very creative with things without having a machine think for us

    I think the problem of today is technology.... well not really a problem... because it has its benefits........ Shit got too simplified, commercialized, and computerized... ..... We played outdoors more than these kids today

    People act so robotic now a days
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    This culture shock that's going on is crazy ......I remember speaking to some old lady and she said back then things would gradually change but today its just so rapid ....

    Hip Hop is now Hip Pop... They commercialized and Bamboozled our shit and make fun of us in commercials and what not and people think that's funny and harmless

    Our generation only cares about sex now. They did before but today, I think its a little different ...... It like the motherfuckers who we don't see are using us as lab rats

    They are blinding people by using their desires



    Sorry for this long post .... I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.


    I'm High As Shit
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  • TB.BoyTB.Boy Posts: 456
    edited December 2011
    uolag wrote: »
    Um ..... Where are you from again and how old are you?

    I'm 31 and back in the 90's in BeD StuY Brooklyn we did all that .... there was no gangs like that ..... Just niggas getting killed for drugs, money, women, and other shit.....

    We still had fun though ..... The block parties every summer (although not the same) ..... We were very creative with things without having a machine think for us

    I think the problem of today is technology.... well not really a problem... because it has its benefits........ Shit got too simplified, commercialized, and computerized... ..... We played outdoors more than these kids today

    People act so robotic now a days
    .
    This culture shock that's going on is crazy ......I remember speaking to some old lady and she said back then things would gradually change but today its just so rapid ....

    Hip Hop is now Hip Pop... They commercialized and Bamboozled our shit and make fun of us in commercials and what not and people think that's funny and harmless

    Our generation only cares about sex now. They did before but today, I think its a little different ...... It like the motherfuckers who we don't see are using us as lab rats

    They are blinding people by using their desires



    Sorry for this long post .... I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.


    I'm High As Shit

    Your good bro what your saying makes sense. by the way im 20 and i live in tampa, florida. Yeah change happens really fast today. Technology is something that we really abuse i agree everything technology related has ads trying to sell you something. i read the other day someone is putting ads on atm machines. My little brothers litterally play MW3 etc on xbox live with their friends from school online when they get home from school. That shits a problem.
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  • GoodSiqMoneyGoodSiqMoney Posts: 255
    edited December 2011
    low attention
    senseless violence
    oversexed
    rampant drug use
    homosexuality becoming a norm

    yeah

    the music reflects the kids
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  • TB.BoyTB.Boy Posts: 456
    edited December 2011
    H-Rap 180 wrote: »
    It's bittersweet to a degree.

    HipHop used to set the trends and rappers used to set the fads that everybody followed but somewhere along the way the artists started trying to dress like, act like, behave like, and party like Euro-Homo-Emo-Rocker-Skater-Hipsters.

    I'm pleased the kill-another-nigga era is dying out because the genocide was getting redundant.

    I'd rather see us embrace music and athletics instead of gangs and crime, but many people from outside our community would rather see the genocide make a resurgence because they find it extremely entertaining.

    The Infatuation with weed baffles me... I dont really believe alot people love weed like they say they do
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  • GoodSiqMoneyGoodSiqMoney Posts: 255
    edited December 2011
    TB.Boy wrote: »
    The Infatuation with weed baffles me... I dont really believe alot people love weed like they say they do

    believe me
    weed and pills is prolly in the bloodstream of 65% of urban youth
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  • H-Rap 180H-Rap 180 Posts: 15,453
    edited December 2011
    TB.Boy wrote: »
    The Infatuation with weed baffles me... I dont really believe alot people love weed like they say they do

    Ol school Jazz heads had the Heroin, the Funk era had the psychedelic drugs, the Rockers had their cocaine and the HipHop community has the Weed.

    It's hip, trendy, cheap and legal in Cali' so for better or worse it's a part of the culture and thanks to Wiz it's a gimmick that's hella popular at the moment.
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  • TB.BoyTB.Boy Posts: 456
    edited December 2011
    GoodSiqMoney wrote: »
    believe me
    weed and pills is prolly in the bloodstream of 65% of urban youth
    Alot of my friends be on that shit acting dumb and weird as fuck on that shit i be asking myself how do they enjoy that shit... Never tried pills and weed makes me lazy so i quit after a few months
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  • TB.BoyTB.Boy Posts: 456
    edited December 2011
    H-Rap 180 wrote: »
    Ol school Jazz heads had the Heroin, the Funk era had the psychedelic drugs, the Rockers had their cocaine and the HipHop community has the Weed.

    It's hip, trendy, cheap and legal in Cali' so for better or worse it's a part of the culture and thanks to Wiz it's a gimmick that's hella popular at the moment.

    Yeah i guess its all part of the game atleast we arent on those hard drugs
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  • juan travoltajuan travolta Posts: 2,917
    edited December 2011
    TB.Boy wrote: »
    Alot of my friends be on that shit acting dumb and weird as fuck on that shit i be asking myself how do they enjoy that shit... Never tried pills and weed makes me lazy so i quit after a few months

    i don't really like weed to be honest idk the first time i got high, i must of got to high because i didn't enjoy it. like if its there i'll take a hit or two but i won't go out my way to get it.
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  • TB.BoyTB.Boy Posts: 456
    edited December 2011
    OutlawNumberUno wrote: »
    i don't really like weed to be honest idk the first time i got high, i must of got to high because i didn't enjoy it. like if its there i'll take a hit or two but i won't go out my way to get it.

    Yeah i feel ya bro.. alot of your friends smoke?
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  • juan travoltajuan travolta Posts: 2,917
    edited December 2011
    TB.Boy wrote: »
    Yeah i feel ya bro.. alot of your friends smoke?

    yeah all my friends do. i'm straight edge though i'm cool on that i'd rather drink.
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  • TB.BoyTB.Boy Posts: 456
    edited December 2011
    OutlawNumberUno wrote: »
    yeah all my friends do. i'm straight edge though i'm cool on that i'd rather drink.

    Yeah same here bro... Wiz Khalifa got everybody smoking haha
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  • 32DaysOfInfiniti32DaysOfInfiniti Posts: 1,799
    edited December 2011
    No because what is pushed is what sells and that is what really shapes the culture. There is a reason the "best new artist" you probably know is not getting radio play in the major cities. The people with the money don't believe in em. What they do believe in however is that easy money and exploitation is far easier than risking people not feeling their artist's music, specially if they are a minority. There is no understanding threshold for sex, drugs and violence. It is easy...

    So with that being known, we realize the only ones getting signed to big deals anymore are the artist who sound a specific way and make cookie cutter music. Those are the ones who end up influencing the kids. We are foolish to think that pop culture doesn't influence the way we act. Not everybody is an innovator, most people need help with deciding what is "cool" especially the younger kids who aren't yet so thick skulled. This generation has gone far beyond microwave, and the music like the technology reflects that. Capitalist know where the money is, they have developed the new formula for our music.

    The way i see it mainstream hip hop nowadays is basically a commercial through and through and what do commercials do, sell things. In this case however its just an industry of opportunist selling lifestyles that will satisfy their own personal agendas, and the effect just spreads like cancer through our cities. Who doesn't want to be popular and with the newest trends? Only few of us can really stand behind our own beliefs, and not so coincidentally its only in places like a forum where people are so strong minded. None of us represent the mass, we all care too much...
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  • juan travoltajuan travolta Posts: 2,917
    edited December 2011
    TB.Boy wrote: »
    Yeah same here bro... Wiz Khalifa got everybody smoking haha

    lol for real. I noticed when he got popular everyone wanted to be a weed smoker.
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  • TB.BoyTB.Boy Posts: 456
    edited December 2011
    32DaysOfInfiniti wrote: »
    No because what is pushed is what sells and that is what really shapes the culture. There is a reason the "best new artist" you probably know is not getting radio play in the major cities. The people with the money don't believe in em. What they do believe in however is that easy money and exploitation is far easier than risking people not feeling their artist's music, specially if they are a minority. There is no understanding threshold for sex, drugs and violence. It is easy...

    So with that being known, we realize the only ones getting signed to big deals anymore are the artist who sound a specific way and make cookie cutter music. Those are the ones who end up influencing the kids. We are foolish to think that pop culture doesn't influence the way we act. Not everybody is an innovator, most people need help with deciding what is "cool" especially the younger kids who aren't yet so thick skulled. This generation has gone far beyond microwave, and the music like the technology reflects that. Capitalist know where the money is, they think they figured out our music.

    The way i see it mainstream hip hop nowadays is basically a commercial through and through and what do commercials do, sell things. In this case however its just an industry of opportunist selling lifestyles that will satisfy their own personal agendas. And it just spreads like cancer through our cities, who doesnt want to be popular and with the new trends. Only few of us can really stand behind our own beliefs, and not so coincidentally its only in places like a forum where people are so strong minded. None of us represent the mass, we all care too much...

    Sadly your right but hip hops going through a change people are going indy and racking up on shows my lil bro in middle school be listening to Kendrick Lamar thats hope right there he doesnt have a deal... but what your saying is true
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  • Bklyn's_OX_KINGBklyn's_OX_KING Posts: 4,866
    edited December 2011
    TB.Boy wrote: »
    The Infatuation with weed baffles me... I dont really believe alot people love weed like they say they do

    Whoever raised you is doing a good job but people infatuAtion with weed as you say is nothing new.
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  • freehuey89freehuey89 Posts: 7,377
    edited December 2011
    other day i was in my college library, looked outside and i realized everyone was wearing clothes that fit them
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  • The DiddlerThe Diddler Posts: 17,336
    edited December 2011
    access to quality weed is the problem...

    back when i was a kid, it was just reggie. hydro was a luxury.

    these kids can't handle hydro and it shows.
    hydro aint for everybody.
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  • The DiddlerThe Diddler Posts: 17,336
    edited December 2011
    im all for the nonviolent "hip hop" era.
    but the way these kids have turned into the characters they play as on these video games, has become ridiculous.
    too many of the youth that are now men, are unable to tell what is fake and what is reality.
    don't make no sense in a man dressing like the blonde kid with the sword from Final Fantasy X...
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  • GoodSiqMoneyGoodSiqMoney Posts: 255
    edited December 2011
    The Jamel wrote: »
    access to quality weed is the problem...

    back when i was a kid, it was just reggie. hydro was a luxury.

    these kids can't handle hydro and it shows.
    hydro aint for everybody.

    rofl
    helll yeah

    i member east coast and midwest niggas was in luv wit that brown shit

    now its high grade or nothin

    middle school kids cop reggie
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  • Bklyn's_OX_KINGBklyn's_OX_KING Posts: 4,866
    edited December 2011
    I mean.... c'mon son ..... If Wiz khalifa got yall thinking everyone smoking weed because of him is a joke to me.


    There were other rap and reggae artists rapping about weed way before that punk

    Think about:

    Method Man & Redman
    Bob Marley
    Snoop Dogg
    Dr Dre
    Cypress Hills
    Peter Tosh
    D Angelo
    brown sugar was about weed ... Just listen to the lyrics carefully
    NaS
    Biggie

    I can go on
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