Kobe ethering his critics

ROFL.GUY · January 2012

Figo wrote: »

more mileage, less rings dummy, which is a damn shame.

jordan 6 rings @ 39

Kobe 5 rings @ 33

he has a very realistic chance of cathcing and even passing mije in rings..

he will play minimum 3 more years maybe even 5 or 6 and retire @ the same age as jordan

Carlos Loozer · January 2012

Elzo69Reloaded wrote: »

For one he was not another thing the media fed to u idiots, for 2 u saying Jordan's success was solely based on his athleticism? GTFOH. The man was extremely skilled...Athleticism was just a bonus...

Jordan wasn't "extremely skilled", stop that shit nigga. And your sig is lame because there are 10 players who could lead the league in scoring right now if they shot as much as jordan did. Give any top player 24 shots per game and they will lead the league too. Judden with his usual bullshit and lames quoting it.

ReppinTime · January 2012

nycest_1 wrote: »

mike won titles up to 98 and played against those guys in the 2000's
he played against em past his prime and still put up buckets.
ya'll nigga crack me up acting like these guys didnt play the second half of the 90s and early 2000

He played them when they were rookies and sophomores then ran. Cameback when he was 40 and shot 20times per game and won nothing. Now once again I'll wait for you to show me what Hall Of Famers on that list Jordan were his competition in his era.

Carlos Loozer · January 2012

Figo wrote: »

more mileage, less rings dummy, which is a damn shame.

Explain how that is a damn shame? He has more mileage yet is performing better than a jordan with less mileage, seems like that sons jordan. plus 1 less ring isn't a deal breaker.

ROFL.GUY · January 2012

Carlos Loozer wrote: »

Explain how that is a damn shame? He has more mileage yet is performing better than a jordan with less mileage, seems like that sons jordan. plus 1 less ring isn't a deal breaker.

this...

hates confused!

smittysmith · January 2012

Coo Coo Cal's Beanie wrote: »

there was already a thread on this. True shooting % is basically the same. So you gone have to give a correct reason

Here's a list of best passing/efficiency teams of all time. Let's see if we can find a theme....

1984-85 Lakers 31.4ast 54.5%fg
1978-79 Bucks 31.2ast 50.3%fg
1982-83 Lakers 30.7ast 52.8%fg
1978-79 Suns 30.5ast 51.2%fg
1983-84 Nuggets 30.3ast 49.3%fg
1983-84 Lakers 29.9ast 53.2%fg
1987-88 Celtics 29.9ast 52.1%fg
1985-86 Lakers 29.7ast 52.2%fg
1986-87 Lakers 29.6ast 51.6%fg
1989-90 Celtics 29.5ast 49.9%fg
1986-87 Celtics 29.5ast 51.7%fg
1979-80 Lakers 29.4ast 52.9%fg
1987-88 Jazz 29.4ast 49.1%fg
1991-92 Pacers 29.2ast 49.4%fg
1985-86 Celtics 29.1ast 50.8%fg
1980-81 Sixers 28.9ast 51.4%fg
1980-81 Lakers 28.8ast 51.2%fg
1983-84 Spurs 28.8ast 50.6%fg
1986-87 Blazers 28.8ast 50.4%fg
1981-82 Lakers 28.7ast 51.7%fg
1986-87 Suns 28.7ast 49.7%fg
1992-93 Cavs 28.6ast 49.7%fg
1987-88 Lakers 28.6ast 50.5%fg
1987-88 Spurs 28.6ast 49.0%fg
1984-85 Kings 28.6ast 50.4%fg
1978-79 Lakers 28.5ast 51.7%fg
1977-78 Knicks 28.5ast 48.8%fg
1977-78 Suns 28.5ast 47.6%fg
1982-83 Nuggets 28.5ast 47.6%fg
1984-85 Suns 28.5ast 49.1%fg
1987-88 Suns 28.5ast 49.1%fg
1979-80 Spurs 28.4ast 49.8%fg
1988-89 Hornets 28.3ast 46.1%fg
1972-73 Celtics 28.3ast 44.8%fg
1980-81 Bucks 28.3ast 49.8%fg
1985-86 Pistons 28.3ast 48.4%fg
1895-86 Rockets 28.3ast 49.0%fg
1986-87 Nuggets 28.3ast 47.1%fg
1984-85 Spurs 28.2ast 51.3%fg
1978-79 Spurs 28.2ast 50.6%fg
1987-88 Blazers 28.1ast 49.1%fg
1977-78 Bucks 28.1ast 48.2%fg
1985-86 Kings 28.1ast 49.0%fg
1984-85 Pistons 28.1ast 48.0%fg
1978-79 Rockets 28.1ast 49.7%fg
1972-73 Lakers 28.1ast 47.8%fg
1982-83 Suns 28.0ast 49.7%fg
1987-88 Nuggets 27.9ast 47.4%fg
1984-85 Cletics 27.9ast 50.8%fg
1991-92 Hornets 27.9ast 47.7%fg

Not one single team of the current era. The best was the 07-08 Celtics with 22.4 ast on 50.1% shooting. They had 3 hall of famers and one of the best facilitating guards in the league.

Carlos Loozer · January 2012

smittysmith wrote: »

Here's a list of best passing/efficiency teams of all time. Let's see if we can find a theme....

1984-85 Lakers 31.4ast 54.5%fg
1978-79 Bucks 31.2ast 50.3%fg
1982-83 Lakers 30.7ast 52.8%fg
1978-79 Suns 30.5ast 51.2%fg
1983-84 Nuggets 30.3ast 49.3%fg
1983-84 Lakers 29.9ast 53.2%fg
1987-88 Celtics 29.9ast 52.1%fg
1985-86 Lakers 29.7ast 52.2%fg
1986-87 Lakers 29.6ast 51.6%fg
1989-90 Celtics 29.5ast 49.9%fg
1986-87 Celtics 29.5ast 51.7%fg
1979-80 Lakers 29.4ast 52.9%fg
1987-88 Jazz 29.4ast 49.1%fg
1991-92 Pacers 29.2ast 49.4%fg
1985-86 Celtics 29.1ast 50.8%fg
1980-81 Sixers 28.9ast 51.4%fg
1980-81 Lakers 28.8ast 51.2%fg
1983-84 Spurs 28.8ast 50.6%fg
1986-87 Blazers 28.8ast 50.4%fg
1981-82 Lakers 28.7ast 51.7%fg
1986-87 Suns 28.7ast 49.7%fg
1992-93 Cavs 28.6ast 49.7%fg
1987-88 Lakers 28.6ast 50.5%fg
1987-88 Spurs 28.6ast 49.0%fg
1984-85 Kings 28.6ast 50.4%fg
1978-79 Lakers 28.5ast 51.7%fg
1977-78 Knicks 28.5ast 48.8%fg
1977-78 Suns 28.5ast 47.6%fg
1982-83 Nuggets 28.5ast 47.6%fg
1984-85 Suns 28.5ast 49.1%fg
1987-88 Suns 28.5ast 49.1%fg
1979-80 Spurs 28.4ast 49.8%fg
1988-89 Hornets 28.3ast 46.1%fg
1972-73 Celtics 28.3ast 44.8%fg
1980-81 Bucks 28.3ast 49.8%fg
1985-86 Pistons 28.3ast 48.4%fg
1895-86 Rockets 28.3ast 49.0%fg
1986-87 Nuggets 28.3ast 47.1%fg
1984-85 Spurs 28.2ast 51.3%fg
1978-79 Spurs 28.2ast 50.6%fg
1987-88 Blazers 28.1ast 49.1%fg
1977-78 Bucks 28.1ast 48.2%fg
1985-86 Kings 28.1ast 49.0%fg
1984-85 Pistons 28.1ast 48.0%fg
1978-79 Rockets 28.1ast 49.7%fg
1972-73 Lakers 28.1ast 47.8%fg
1982-83 Suns 28.0ast 49.7%fg
1987-88 Nuggets 27.9ast 47.4%fg
1984-85 Cletics 27.9ast 50.8%fg
1991-92 Hornets 27.9ast 47.7%fg

Not one single team of the current era. The best was the 07-08 Celtics with 22.4 ast on 50.1% shooting. They had 3 hall of famers and one of the best facilitating guards in the league.

Those eras were also way higher scoring, therefore the assist totals will be higher, obviously. Stop the bullshit nigga.

Coo Coo Cal's Beanie · January 2012

smittysmith wrote: »

Here's a list of best passing/efficiency teams of all time. Let's see if we can find a theme....

1984-85 Lakers 31.4ast 54.5%fg
1978-79 Bucks 31.2ast 50.3%fg
1982-83 Lakers 30.7ast 52.8%fg
1978-79 Suns 30.5ast 51.2%fg
1983-84 Nuggets 30.3ast 49.3%fg
1983-84 Lakers 29.9ast 53.2%fg
1987-88 Celtics 29.9ast 52.1%fg
1985-86 Lakers 29.7ast 52.2%fg
1986-87 Lakers 29.6ast 51.6%fg
1989-90 Celtics 29.5ast 49.9%fg
1986-87 Celtics 29.5ast 51.7%fg
1979-80 Lakers 29.4ast 52.9%fg
1987-88 Jazz 29.4ast 49.1%fg
1991-92 Pacers 29.2ast 49.4%fg
1985-86 Celtics 29.1ast 50.8%fg
1980-81 Sixers 28.9ast 51.4%fg
1980-81 Lakers 28.8ast 51.2%fg
1983-84 Spurs 28.8ast 50.6%fg
1986-87 Blazers 28.8ast 50.4%fg
1981-82 Lakers 28.7ast 51.7%fg
1986-87 Suns 28.7ast 49.7%fg
1992-93 Cavs 28.6ast 49.7%fg
1987-88 Lakers 28.6ast 50.5%fg
1987-88 Spurs 28.6ast 49.0%fg
1984-85 Kings 28.6ast 50.4%fg
1978-79 Lakers 28.5ast 51.7%fg
1977-78 Knicks 28.5ast 48.8%fg
1977-78 Suns 28.5ast 47.6%fg
1982-83 Nuggets 28.5ast 47.6%fg
1984-85 Suns 28.5ast 49.1%fg
1987-88 Suns 28.5ast 49.1%fg
1979-80 Spurs 28.4ast 49.8%fg
1988-89 Hornets 28.3ast 46.1%fg
1972-73 Celtics 28.3ast 44.8%fg
1980-81 Bucks 28.3ast 49.8%fg
1985-86 Pistons 28.3ast 48.4%fg
1895-86 Rockets 28.3ast 49.0%fg
1986-87 Nuggets 28.3ast 47.1%fg
1984-85 Spurs 28.2ast 51.3%fg
1978-79 Spurs 28.2ast 50.6%fg
1987-88 Blazers 28.1ast 49.1%fg
1977-78 Bucks 28.1ast 48.2%fg
1985-86 Kings 28.1ast 49.0%fg
1984-85 Pistons 28.1ast 48.0%fg
1978-79 Rockets 28.1ast 49.7%fg
1972-73 Lakers 28.1ast 47.8%fg
1982-83 Suns 28.0ast 49.7%fg
1987-88 Nuggets 27.9ast 47.4%fg
1984-85 Cletics 27.9ast 50.8%fg
1991-92 Hornets 27.9ast 47.7%fg

Not one single team of the current era. The best was the 07-08 Celtics with 22.4 ast on 50.1% shooting. They had 3 hall of famers and one of the best facilitating guards in the league.

Ive already stated the true shooting % shit. So the FG% dont even matter.

But i thought the rule changes were to make the league more offensive friendly? Does allowing zone defenses help the NBA become higher scoring?

ReppinTime · January 2012

smittysmith wrote: »

Here's a list of best passing/efficiency teams of all time. Let's see if we can find a theme....

1984-85 Lakers 31.4ast 54.5%fg
1978-79 Bucks 31.2ast 50.3%fg
1982-83 Lakers 30.7ast 52.8%fg
1978-79 Suns 30.5ast 51.2%fg
1983-84 Nuggets 30.3ast 49.3%fg
1983-84 Lakers 29.9ast 53.2%fg
1987-88 Celtics 29.9ast 52.1%fg
1985-86 Lakers 29.7ast 52.2%fg
1986-87 Lakers 29.6ast 51.6%fg
1989-90 Celtics 29.5ast 49.9%fg
1986-87 Celtics 29.5ast 51.7%fg
1979-80 Lakers 29.4ast 52.9%fg
1987-88 Jazz 29.4ast 49.1%fg
1991-92 Pacers 29.2ast 49.4%fg
1985-86 Celtics 29.1ast 50.8%fg
1980-81 Sixers 28.9ast 51.4%fg
1980-81 Lakers 28.8ast 51.2%fg
1983-84 Spurs 28.8ast 50.6%fg
1986-87 Blazers 28.8ast 50.4%fg
1981-82 Lakers 28.7ast 51.7%fg
1986-87 Suns 28.7ast 49.7%fg
1992-93 Cavs 28.6ast 49.7%fg
1987-88 Lakers 28.6ast 50.5%fg
1987-88 Spurs 28.6ast 49.0%fg
1984-85 Kings 28.6ast 50.4%fg
1978-79 Lakers 28.5ast 51.7%fg
1977-78 Knicks 28.5ast 48.8%fg
1977-78 Suns 28.5ast 47.6%fg
1982-83 Nuggets 28.5ast 47.6%fg
1984-85 Suns 28.5ast 49.1%fg
1987-88 Suns 28.5ast 49.1%fg
1979-80 Spurs 28.4ast 49.8%fg
1988-89 Hornets 28.3ast 46.1%fg
1972-73 Celtics 28.3ast 44.8%fg
1980-81 Bucks 28.3ast 49.8%fg
1985-86 Pistons 28.3ast 48.4%fg
1895-86 Rockets 28.3ast 49.0%fg
1986-87 Nuggets 28.3ast 47.1%fg
1984-85 Spurs 28.2ast 51.3%fg
1978-79 Spurs 28.2ast 50.6%fg
1987-88 Blazers 28.1ast 49.1%fg
1977-78 Bucks 28.1ast 48.2%fg
1985-86 Kings 28.1ast 49.0%fg
1984-85 Pistons 28.1ast 48.0%fg
1978-79 Rockets 28.1ast 49.7%fg
1972-73 Lakers 28.1ast 47.8%fg
1982-83 Suns 28.0ast 49.7%fg
1987-88 Nuggets 27.9ast 47.4%fg
1984-85 Cletics 27.9ast 50.8%fg
1991-92 Hornets 27.9ast 47.7%fg

Not one single team of the current era. The best was the 07-08 Celtics with 22.4 ast on 50.1% shooting. They had 3 hall of famers and one of the best facilitating guards in the league.

lol you one of the dumbest niggas in this forum. of course this idiot ignores the fact that during these periods most teams was dropping 140 pts every other night. the era of fast pace and little defense and no zone. You really dont understand basketball you geek. also im curious you mention the Celtics team and their 3 Hall Of Famers. Out of curiosity how many Hall of Famers and top 50 all time players were on Jordan's Bulls?

lol @ Jordan's bulls having niggas coming off the bench who avg'd more points than fuckin Pau Gasol has ever in his entire career.

b*braze · January 2012

smittysmith wrote: »

Here's a list of best passing/efficiency teams of all time. Let's see if we can find a theme....

1984-85 Lakers 31.4ast 54.5%fg
1978-79 Bucks 31.2ast 50.3%fg
1982-83 Lakers 30.7ast 52.8%fg
1978-79 Suns 30.5ast 51.2%fg
1983-84 Nuggets 30.3ast 49.3%fg
1983-84 Lakers 29.9ast 53.2%fg
1987-88 Celtics 29.9ast 52.1%fg
1985-86 Lakers 29.7ast 52.2%fg
1986-87 Lakers 29.6ast 51.6%fg
1989-90 Celtics 29.5ast 49.9%fg
1986-87 Celtics 29.5ast 51.7%fg
1979-80 Lakers 29.4ast 52.9%fg
1987-88 Jazz 29.4ast 49.1%fg
1991-92 Pacers 29.2ast 49.4%fg
1985-86 Celtics 29.1ast 50.8%fg
1980-81 Sixers 28.9ast 51.4%fg
1980-81 Lakers 28.8ast 51.2%fg
1983-84 Spurs 28.8ast 50.6%fg
1986-87 Blazers 28.8ast 50.4%fg
1981-82 Lakers 28.7ast 51.7%fg
1986-87 Suns 28.7ast 49.7%fg
1992-93 Cavs 28.6ast 49.7%fg
1987-88 Lakers 28.6ast 50.5%fg
1987-88 Spurs 28.6ast 49.0%fg
1984-85 Kings 28.6ast 50.4%fg
1978-79 Lakers 28.5ast 51.7%fg
1977-78 Knicks 28.5ast 48.8%fg
1977-78 Suns 28.5ast 47.6%fg
1982-83 Nuggets 28.5ast 47.6%fg
1984-85 Suns 28.5ast 49.1%fg
1987-88 Suns 28.5ast 49.1%fg
1979-80 Spurs 28.4ast 49.8%fg
1988-89 Hornets 28.3ast 46.1%fg
1972-73 Celtics 28.3ast 44.8%fg
1980-81 Bucks 28.3ast 49.8%fg
1985-86 Pistons 28.3ast 48.4%fg
1895-86 Rockets 28.3ast 49.0%fg
1986-87 Nuggets 28.3ast 47.1%fg
1984-85 Spurs 28.2ast 51.3%fg
1978-79 Spurs 28.2ast 50.6%fg
1987-88 Blazers 28.1ast 49.1%fg
1977-78 Bucks 28.1ast 48.2%fg
1985-86 Kings 28.1ast 49.0%fg
1984-85 Pistons 28.1ast 48.0%fg
1978-79 Rockets 28.1ast 49.7%fg
1972-73 Lakers 28.1ast 47.8%fg
1982-83 Suns 28.0ast 49.7%fg
1987-88 Nuggets 27.9ast 47.4%fg
1984-85 Cletics 27.9ast 50.8%fg
1991-92 Hornets 27.9ast 47.7%fg

Not one single team of the current era. The best was the 07-08 Celtics with 22.4 ast on 50.1% shooting. They had 3 hall of famers and one of the best facilitating guards in the league.

fuck is that? where you get this list?

woah316 · January 2012

Jordan in 15th yr 20/6/4, 44% Kobe 16th yr 30/6/6, 46%

ROFL.GUY wrote: »

kobe was younger than jordan when they both got their 5th

Now, as if it wasn't obvious you're trolling.... (lets say you're the equivalent of OJ simpson... everybody know you killed the white bitch, but there just wasnt hard enough PROOF)...

As I point to the first quote, you are referencing Jordan's 15th year compared to Kobe's 16th, even though Jordan was, what, 4 to 5 years older than Kobe by that time? Argument: NUMBER OF SEASONS

But then when someone brought up that Jordan won 6 titles by his 13th, and Kobe only 5 by his 16th, you say "but Kobe was younger than Jordan when he got his 5th" Argument: AGE

Basically for anyone who needs further clarification.. Dude just used a blatant double standard. Instead of Judging Kobe and Jordan off their number of seasons in BOTH circumstances... He wants to flip to the Age card, only when it supports an argument for Kobe.

This is the Proof The Jury was lacking to put OJ away, even though it was obvious.

I am curious though, to see what you have to say for yourself?

*all that said and I love Kobe Bryant, but lets see threadstarter spin this one*

Ibex · January 2012

Niggas don't even put any type of effort in Kobe troll threads no more...smh

woah316 · January 2012

Ibex wrote: »

Niggas don't even put any type of effort in Kobe troll threads no more...smh

lol, exactly. Trolls can be fun if they even have 1% of credibility to their argument, yet can argue it tooth and nail (skip bayless on some issues)... But when you have 0%, it's not even fun (thats when you get ROFL.GUY)

ReppinTime · January 2012

woah316 wrote: »

Basically for anyone who needs further clarification.. Dude just used a blatant double standard. Instead of Judging Kobe and Jordan off their number of seasons in BOTH circumstances... He wants to flip to the Age card, only when it supports an argument for Kobe.

hmmm. Sounds like every single post I've ever read on here from a spacejammer. Where are you then. Infact any thread with Kobe or Lakers in the title right now on the cheapseats first page has spacejammers in them moving goal posts everywhere when it comes to Kobe.

smittysmith · January 2012

ROFL @ Jordan having anyone on the bench that avg 19 and 10. To B-Braze, if I told you id have to kill you lol.

nba-qualtable-pace.png?w=594

As you can see #'s of possessions have lowered. The more possessions, the more shots, the lower the field goal %. The late 80-mid 90's had the best production per possession while the majority of the decade had some of the worst. Some would say the shorter 3 pt line skews the stats, but you can also say the finalization of the rules changes in 06 contributed to the boom of the last few years.

Say What · January 2012

Kobe should break all od Jordans records he has 5 extra years but he wont. He never will be as good as MJ but he will be close

Mister B. · January 2012

I have a question?

10 games in? WORD?

Seriously....when does the slurping stop?

b*braze · January 2012

smittysmith wrote: »

ROFL @ Jordan having anyone on the bench that avg 19 and 10. To B-Braze, if I told you id have to kill you lol.

break bread nigga. yall niggas be holdin on to information like is secret knowledge. lol

reach one teach one

rakim ii · January 2012

This shit is straight comedy

Darius · January 2012

b*braze wrote: »

break bread nigga. yall niggas be holdin on to information like is secret knowledge. lol

reach one teach one

http://hoopsapedia.webs.com/

Carlos Loozer · January 2012

Tommy bilfiger wrote: »

Wait so they 90's had the SAME pace as the current nba? Did niggas agendas just get destroyed again? Lmao

What excuse will it be this time

What was posted doesn't even say pace, moron. Plus 2 years makes up for 13? GOAT logic for a nigga horrible at math.

ReppinTime · January 2012

ROFL @ Ricky proving he's a middle school dropout. lol that chart simple as fuck and this nigga brain hemorrhaging tryin to understand it.

smittysmith wrote: »

ROFL @ Jordan having anyone on the bench that avg 19 and 10. To B-Braze, if I told you id have to kill you lol.

*dumb nigga still proving the argument he's going against and doesnt even realize it post*

ROFL @ Needing Pau to avg anything when you got Rodman averaging 10 and 19 rbs. Nineteen fuckin rebounds.

and niggas off the bench ala Ron Harper who avg'd 20+ almost 10 fucking times.

Pau avg'd 20 twice in his career and that was years ago

lol

woah316 · January 2012

ReppinTime wrote: »

hmmm. Sounds like every single post I've ever read on here from a spacejammer. Where are you then. Infact any thread with Kobe or Lakers in the title right now on the cheapseats first page has spacejammers in them moving goal posts everywhere when it comes to Kobe.

I just point out what I see.

You've seen me go to war and tell people Scottie Pippen went from within a few plays of being in the ECF without Jordan, while Pau Gasoft never won ONE playoff game as the Alpha Dog.

I keep shit 100 at all times and can make arguments in either or's favor... But when I see some blatant bullshit like ROFL trynna pull, imma call it out.

Coo Coo Cal's Beanie · January 2012

ROFL.GUY wrote: »

kobe was younger than jordan when they both got their 5th

when kobe wins his 6th this year he would have done it at a younger age than jordan

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**kobe has won 5 rings with only 1 HOF player.. he actually won 3 with 1 HOF player.. and won 2 more with no HOF

KOBE GOAT

damn. thats factual

smittysmith · January 2012

And a whopping 2.1 asts. The Bulls entire front court combined for 14 ppg during the 2nd 3 peat. What a juggernaut offensive squad.

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