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  • waterproofwaterproof Conqueror of Self On The Road to ZionPosts: 9,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Trayvon Martin Final Moments Captured During Phone Call With Teenage Girl


    Posted: 03/20/2012 11:21 am Updated: 03/20/2012 12:25 pm

    Just moments before Trayvon Martin was shot and killed, he was on his cellphone talking with a 16-year-old girl. For the first time, the girl is speaking out about the last, horrifying moments of Martin's life.

    "He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost the man," the girl told ABC News. "I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run but he said he was not going to run."

    According to accounts gleaned from 911 audio recordings made the night of the killing and the teenage girl's statements, Martin eventually did run. But Zimmerman wasn't far behind, and soon the two would be face to face. Zimmerman, the self-appointed captain of the neighborhood watch, was armed with a 9mm pistol. Trayvon had little more than a bag of candy in his pocket.

    "Trayvon said, 'What are you following me for?' and the man said, 'What are you doing here?' Next thing I hear is somebody pushing, and somebody pushed Trayvon because the headset just fell. I called him again and he didn't answer the phone."

    The line went dead, according to the girl's account.

    As reported by ABC News, Trayvon's phone records show that he was on the phone with the girl (whose parents asked that her name not be used) just five minutes before the police arrived on the scene.

    "He knew he was being followed and tried to get away from the guy, and the guy still caught up with him," Tracey Martin, Trayvon's father, told ABC. "And that's the most disturbing part: He thought he had got away from the guy, and the guy back-tracked for him."




    The police would arrive at the scene -- a patch of grass between a row of townhomes at the Retreat at Twin Lakes, the gated community in the Orlando suburb of Sanford, where Trayvon, 17, was visiting his father -- to find the teen dead from a single gunshot wound to the chest.

    The Sanford police questioned Zimmerman, 28, who told them that he killed Martin is self-defense. Zimmerman was soon released without being charged.

    The police say they do not have enough evidence to counter Zimmerman's claims; despite the fact that as early as March 8, Sanford Police chief Bill Lee told HuffPost that Zimmerman disregarded a 911 dispatcher who told him to stand down and wait for the police to arrive. And that at some point Martin realized that Zimmerman, a stranger on a cellphone, was following him.

    Lee's description of the events just before Zimmerman shot Martin also seem to corroborate the girl's account.

    According to Lee, Zimmerman told investigators that Martin noticed that he was being followed and asked, "What's your problem?"

    "He obviously knows Zimmerman is following him," Lee said. "So that's where this physical confrontation takes place."

    With the national media spotlight shining more brightly, hundreds of thousands across the country have joined outraged calls to action, signing petitions calling for Zimmerman's arrest or are joining rallies and protests in support of Martin.

    The pieces of the puzzle surrounding Martin's killing on Feb. 26 are slowly coming together, as more witnesses come forward to correct the record about what they saw and heard that night. Meanwhile, more scrutiny is being put on how local law enforcement has handled the case, as state and federal authorities have stepped in to investigate the killing further.

    The Sanford police handed the case over to the State Attorney's Office last week, and yesterday the Justice Department and the FBI announced that they would be joining the probe into Martin's killing.

    The Justice Department has promised to "conduct a thorough and independent review of all evidence and take appropriate action at the conclusion of the investigation," according to a statement late Monday. And Seminole County State Attorney Norm Wolfinger announced Tuesday morning that he plans to convene a grand jury to determine if Zimmerman should be charged in Martin’s death.

    The girl's statements -- in conjunction with those of other witnesses and audio recordings of 911 calls made the night of the killing -- offer a clearer picture of what happened that night.

    While Martin was on the phone with the girl, Zimmerman was on the line with a 911 dispatcher, reporting Martin as a "suspicious person."
  • waterproofwaterproof Conqueror of Self On The Road to ZionPosts: 9,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Trayvon Martin Final Moments Captured During Phone Call With Teenage Girl

    Posted: 03/20/2012 11:21 am Updated: 03/20/2012 12:25 pm

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    "This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something," Zimmerman tells the 911 operator. "He's just staring, looking at all the houses. Now he's coming toward me. He's got his hand in his waistband. Something's wrong with him."

    Zimmerman described Martin as wearing a hoodie and sweatpants or jeans.

    Zimmerman continues: "He's coming to check me out. He's got something in his hands. I don't know what his deal is. Can we get an officer over here?"

    "These assholes always get away," he says later to the operator. Zimmerman is then heard giving directions to the dispatcher.

    "Shit, he's running," Zimmerman says.

    "Are you following him?" the dispatcher asks.

    "Yes," Zimmerman responds.

    "We don't need you to do that," the dispatcher says.

    Zimmerman continued to pursue Martin, and moments later other calls started coming in to 911. Neighbors reported hearing screams, cries for help and then gunfire. Some sobbed as they talked about a dead boy and a man standing over him. In one recording, the sounds of wailing and what seem to be pleas for help and "No! No!" can be heard.

    According to the Miami Herald, Zimmerman told the police that he had stepped out of his SUV to check the name of the street he was on, and that Trayvon sprang out of nowhere to attack him from behind as he was walking back to his truck. He said he feared for his life and shot Martin in self-defense. That account doesn't easily fit into the narrative cobbled together from what evidence had been made public.

    "I think the [girl's account] is just more corroborative evidence that Trayvon was not the aggressor and that he was being actively pursued by George Zimmerman," said Jasmine Rand, one of the Martin family's attorneys.

    Rand said the girl, a friend from Miami where Trayvon lived with his mother, "probably heard the moments closest to the end of his life, and she says that Zimmerman was pursuing him and that he pushed him or was physically aggressive with him."

    That account, and corroboration from other witnesses who dispute that Zimmerman was acting in self-defense, she said, could be key in determining if Zimmerman acted legally that night.

    "What we have now is several witnesses saying the same thing: that Zimmerman was the aggressor, that he followed him and pursued him and at some point was on top of him," Rand said. "If you're trying to use a claim of self-defense, you can't be the one chasing, you can't be chasing the person that you say is being aggressive against you."

    In the days after the shooting, witnesses have said they had trouble reaching the police to give their statements. Others would say that investigators twisted their testimony to fit a self-defense theory, asked leading questions during questioning and that, on the night of the killing, investigators peppered Zimmerman with questions before he could tell his story.

    "It was self-defense," one witness said an investigator mouthed at the scene.

    This article has been updated to include information from Chief Lee about the police's understanding of the circumstances of the incident.
  • waterproofwaterproof Conqueror of Self On The Road to ZionPosts: 9,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Trayvon Martin's Last Phone Call Contradicts Shooter's Claim, Attorney Says



    by Mark Memmott


    George Zimmerman's statement to police about what 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was up to on Feb. 26 in Sanford, Fla., "is completely contradicted" by the boy's cellphone records, an attorney for Martin's family just said during a news conference in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.

    Attorney Benjamin Crump said the African-American teenager had been talking to friends all day and, as first reported earlier today by ABC News, was on the phone with a young girl when he was confronted by, in Crump's words, "neighborhood association loose cannon" Zimmerman.

    The girl, Crump said, says Martin was just trying to get back to the house he and his father had been visiting when Zimmerman came into the picture. She heard Martin ask "why are you following me?" Crump said. Another voice, according to the girl, asked at least twice "what are you doing around here?"

    Moments later, Martin was shot in the chest.

    The 28-year-old Zimmerman, who had called police to report seeing a "suspicious" person and was advised not to follow that person, has told police he acted in self defense.

    As we've been reporting, Martin's death has reignited a national conversation about race and racial profiling. And it has led to charges from Martin's family and their supporters that local police failed to adequately investigate. "Arrest killer. He killed this child in cold blood," Crump said a moment ago.

    Zimmerman has not been charged with a crime. The federal Justice Department is now getting involved, and the local state attorney announced this morning that he's asked a grand jury to investigate.

  • Black_SamsonBlack_Samson Can I Fuck It? Im Gonna Fuck It... Posts: 43,350 Regulator
    Someone on another forum made a point:

    "Justice should be served and punishment should be rendered to the highest of lawful extent. He died unjustly by the hands of an over zealous neighborhood watcher. What ever happens I hope Zimmerman pay's for this.


    Now that THAT's out of the way, I'm having a real problem with black people and what we CHOOSE to lash out on. Okay, so a white man shot down a black kid for no real apparent reason. But what about all the other black on black nonsense we got going on? How come there's not more of an effort to stop the warfare among black men and their respective gangs and groups. If we can speak out on this we can do a better job of speaking out on the black on black stuff. And i'm pleased that we're getting more involved with this case but I think we need to take a hard look in the mirror. The same thing that white guy did to that black kid...we've been doing to each other for years. Does anyone else see a problem here? Or is it just me?"

    this aint the place for you to get on a soap box, nigga.
    stay on topic or make your own thread in the SL.
    Black_Samsonidoitforhiphop10Mister B.Africa United
  • georgia boigeorgia boi Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A human life was taken and justice should be served. All the arguments over whether this is a civil, criminal, social, racial or whatever is irrelevant. An unarmed person was murdered. That's an injustice no matter from which perspective you look at it.

    The real civil, criminal, social, racial matter lies with the crooked judicial system that refuses to use logic when looking at the situation. Zimmerman's self defense claims do not make sense when compared to his call. Trayvon was clearly not armed. Justice shows no prejudice, favortism, or bias, unfortunately the United States operates under the mask of a democracy in which a majority rules. For us that are minorities, we are disenfranchised, misrepresented, or not represented at all when our views and issues don't line up with that majority.
    JDSTAYWITIT.H-Rap 180
  • waterproofwaterproof Conqueror of Self On The Road to ZionPosts: 9,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    750k signed the petition and it's aiming for a million. TODAY ACROSS AMERICA IS THE MILLION HOODIE MARCH, MARCHERS ARE WEARING HOODIES TO PROTEST THE MURDER OF TRAYVON MARTIN
  • waterproofwaterproof Conqueror of Self On The Road to ZionPosts: 9,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Trayvon Martin Case: State Attorney To Convene Grand Jury To Investigate Shooting
    The state attorney in Seminole County, Fla., said that a grand jury will be convened to investigate the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, the unarmed 17-year-old whose killing at the hands of a neighborhood watch captain in an Orlando suburb has become national news.

    "I share in the desire of the family and the community to accurately collect and evaluate all the facts surrounding the tragic death of Trayvon Martin," Norm Wolfinger, the local state prosecutor, said in a statement. "The public is entitled to no less than a thorough, deliberate, and just review of the facts. We intend to honor that commitment."

    George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch member who admitted to shooting Martin, has not been arrested or charged in the case. The police department in Sanford, Fl. have come under scrutiny for not bringing charges against Zimmerman. Last week, local prosecutors turned the case over to the state attorney.

    Wolfinger said the grand jury would be called into session on April 10.

    The lawyers for Martin's family, however, said that the move is a way for the Sanford's local police and prosecutors to pass the buck.

    The news comes just hours after the U.S. Justice Department and the FBI said they would look into the "facts and circumstances" surrounding Martin's shooting
  • waterproofwaterproof Conqueror of Self On The Road to ZionPosts: 9,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    City leaders pass no-confidence vote in Sanford police chief; protests spread to New York

    By TINA SUSMAN
    Los Angeles Times



    Published: Wednesday, Mar. 21, 2012 - 1:00 am




    SANFORD, Fla. -- In a tense meeting Wednesday that highlighted growing tensions over the shooting death of an unarmed black teenager, city commissioners here passed a vote of no confidence in the police chief, as protests spread north to New York City, where the slain youth's parents joined a march demanding the killer's arrest.

    The no-confidence measure passed 3 to 2 after more than an hour of debate. Though it was not binding, the outcome and the public groans and applause that punctuated the debate underscored the anger pulsing through the Orlando suburb nearly a month after 17-year-old Trayvon Martin's death on Feb. 26.

    Most of that anger is focused on the fact that the admitted shooter, 28-year-old George Zimmerman, who has been described as both Latino and white, has not been arrested.

    Dozens of Sanford residents gathered in the Sanford City Hall, where City Commissioner Mark McCarty set the tone for the meeting by noting that he had called for Police Chief Bill Lee's ouster 10 days earlier in a meeting with the city manager, Norton N. Bonaparte Jr.

    "I take no pleasure in publicly flogging our police chief. He's a good man," McCarty said.

    But McCarty said questions surrounding the case, and the negative publicity cast upon the city since the killing, were largely the result of mishandling of the investigation. The questions, he said, include whether police were too quick to accept Zimmerman's claim that he fired in self-defense, despite the fact that Martin was unarmed and that witnesses described hearing someone wailing for help before a gunshot rang out.

    A lawyer representing Martin's family, Benjamin Crump, has said that the teenager was on a cellphone with his girlfriend and expressed concern that he was being followed by a strange man in the seconds before he was shot. And two women who live near the shooting scene have said that Martin was lying face-down, with Zimmerman looming over him, after he was shot.

    "If it was self-defense, why was he (Zimmerman) on Trayvon's back?" one of the witnesses, Mary Cutcher, told CNN in an interview.

    City Commissioners Patty Mahany and Randy Jones argued against the no-confidence vote, saying the city needed to wait for the outcomes of a grand jury inquiry scheduled for April 10 and a Department of Justice investigation. "A rush to judgment in any situation is wrong," said Mahany, calling the no-confidence motion a "knee-jerk reaction."

    Only the city manager, Bonaparte, can fire Lee or ask for his resignation, and he gave no indication he planned to do so. But as speaker after speaker, black and white, took to the microphone to question why Zimmerman had not been arrested, it was clear that Bonaparte faced pressure that showed no sign of diminishing.

    The Rev. Al Sharpton was due to lead a rally in Sanford on Thursday, and the city was planning for hundreds and possibly thousands of people at a special meeting Monday night to focus on the case.

    In Manhattan's Union Square, hundreds of people marched in memory of the slain teenager in a so-called Million Hoodie March on Wednesday, including Martin's parents. Martin was wearing a hooded sweatshirt when he was killed while walking back from a store where he had purchased some candy and a drink.

    "We're not going to stop until we get justice," said the teenager's father, Tracy Martin, after thanking the crowd in New York, which chanted, "We want arrests," according to The Associated Press.

    "My son did not deserve to die," the teen's mother, Sybrina Fulton, told the crowd, AP reported. "My heart is in pain, but to see the support of all of you really makes a difference."



    More than a dozen people spoke at the Sanford meeting, the overwhelming majority of them black Sanford residents complaining that the Police Department was quick to arrest blacks while letting whites accused of similar offenses to go free. Several of them described arbitrary arrests and harassment by police.

    "I was born and raised in Sanford, and I've had this problem plenty of times," said Robin Riggins, a black woman.

    One resident, however, spoke in favor of Lee, arguing that the case should be allowed to "run its course."

    "There's two sides to every story," said the resident, a white man who said he had lived in Sanford for decades. "We can't rush to judgment and have Chief Lee be responsible for everything that occurs if we find out in an investigation he did his job."

    He noted that Lee had only been on the job 10 months.

    Lee took over after the previous chief was forced out following an outcry over the beating of a black man in downtown Sanford by a white man who is a police officer's son. The police did not arrest the man, even though the beating was captured on video

  • waterproofwaterproof Conqueror of Self On The Road to ZionPosts: 9,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2012
    The Brother Norton N. Bonaparte Jr was on MSNBC Lawrence O'Donnell "The LAST WORD" and The City leaders voted 3-2 No confidence vote and Norton N. Bonaparte have the authority to fire Bill Lee and he said on Lawrence O'Donnell show that he wants a independt investigation and he's thinking on suspending Bill Lee and considering firing Bill Lee. Ciry Manager said on the show that the report that Bill Lee gave to him and the public have major inconsistencies
  • poindexter2poindexter2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭✭✭
    After some deep thought, I have come to the conclusion that "George Zimmerman" is either under the witness protection with the U.S. Marshalls or a federal informant. A. What Hispanic male name is George Zimmerman. B. No one sees this guy commute to and from a place of employment C. All of his past offenses have ended in his charges being ultimately dropped, for no other reason but the sake of being dropped. We need some paper work on this cat for real
    Black_SamsonAggyAFwaterproof
  • H-Rap 180H-Rap 180 Posts: 15,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2012
  • StoneColdMikeyStoneColdMikey I am what the people need. MIKEYFORMOD CHITOWN THE BEST TOWNPosts: 20,898 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2012
    i hate being 17 and not being able to participate aint shit like this that is not in Chicago
    pop dukeAggyAF
  • idoitforhiphop10idoitforhiphop10 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's been a month, it's obvious that Trayvon not gonna get the justice that he rightfully deserves. Karma's a bitch tho, so it's gonna catch up with him sooner or later.

    Fuck a Kony, zimmerman 2012
    Dat1Dude7JDSTAYWITIT.Young-Ice
  • StillDreamingStillDreaming Posts: 4,989
    edited March 2012



    for those who haven't seen this yet. This whole incident is just sickening. Don't trust these white folks....
    pop dukeidoitforhiphop10dnyce215H-Rap 180
  • lamontbdclamontbdc Posts: 16,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yea nothign is going to happen to zimmerman in the justice system. glad folks still talking about this and not brushing it away
    Young-Ice
  • pop dukepop duke Posts: 375
    Although its been a month & no arrest justice will b served!! Its 2012 & we still tolerating dis sh*t????
    Young-Icednyce215
  • TB.BoyTB.Boy Posts: 546 ✭✭✭
    I try to not let racism affect me but when i saw this i started feeling the black mans burden. This shit is getting old for real. That police station needs to be handled. They need to be made an example.
    pop dukeYoung-Icednyce215
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