Ima hafta un-fan Kendrick Lamar for a couple years...

GeE-757 · April 2012

DMTxCannabis wrote: »

As far as Kendrick, his new single with Dre is bangin. I hope he doesn't suffer from the same fate as Rakim when he signed to Interscope, or others that were under Dre such as GAGE. Because Kendrick is dope as hell when he wants to be.

that kendrick single aint makin no noise out herr n va r u still n nc or ny & if so r they playin that shit? lol

hip-hopisalive wrote: »

didn't illbot just ban your ass?

yeah but my bannin wasnt legit cuz we got homotional crackaz & cracka protectorz who love 2 abuse da wack bitch reaction shit thatz y i got 1k flagg;d postz & i dont even have 1k postz smh so again FUK A CRACKA, CRACKA PROTECTOR & A ILLBOT...

MC The Rapper · April 2012

yeah i rap so don't wrote: »

MC The Rapper wrote: »

yeah i rap so don't wrote: »

MC The Rapper wrote: »

judahxulu wrote: »

MC The Rapper wrote: »

I agree with you but I'm gonna tell why people like Kendrick , it a similar reason people like J.Cole because in people

minds at least their trying to be thought provoking at least they trying to talk about social issues at least they trying to talk

about positive stuff. People do not want to let Hip Hop go and they want to push the people that at least trying to the

forefront even if they put out shit music. Their emotionally attached to those guys and they would rather see those guys at

the top than Lil Wayne or Nicki Minaj.

i had an argument about this with some guys who supposed to be like uber-revolutionaries. my whole thing is that once they get in the game to comete with nicki manj and lil wayne, they will have to tone it down or end up on a milk carton. you get in their game you gotta play by their rules. not jumping in bed with dr.dre (literally and/or figuratively) was the smartest thing kendrick lamar prolly ever done. he would go the way of rakim...

Yeah you have to conform look at Drake wasn't come back season on some conscious shit. J.cole had to conform, Kendrick

gon have to conform as well. I think Schoolboy Q is going to do better in this situation then Kendrick or Absoul.

Did you give me a "feelings" response? Do I have to tell you "than" is needed in comparisons? You used "then" instead of the proper word bro.

I don't be hitting those buttons when I post or proof reeding or none of that there you talking about. Their you go

"There" is what you wanted to use. "Their" is used in terms of possession or ownership. It is not really difficult to remember these things bro.

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

hip-hopisalive wrote: »

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

That black hippy shit is some of the most GAYEST shit ever on the scene

You hipster niggas are down low and don't even know that shit

Shit needs to die yesterday...

You must have odd future and black hippy mixed up

I might. But honestly the whole scene is borderline gay. I don't rock the shit I see those cats in. I'm not preppy. I'm not hippy...I'm a rugged man...I don't do that metrosexual horseshit

And hippy wear in general, no bullshit, is metrosexual horseshit

You reek of typical east coast love means hating the west coast. It is effeminate to behave in such a manner. You do not have to hate the west coast for existing and you not being from there. You couldn't walk through the Nickerson Gardens. I have been down there and it is not a place to joke about. You wouldn't survive wearing blue down there unless you had a pass. You can't walk into their projects and make it out unless you have a pass. I have been all through Hoover and I know a couple of those dudes. You would get the breaks beaten off you. Compton is real quiet at times and random guns hots the rest of the time. Yea, Ab-Soul is from Carson, but grew up with those EC 190's and EC Crip may be the biggest unit outside of the Neighborhood Crips in terms of that umbrella. I just never understood how hating a place for simply being a place validates anything. You fucking disgust me bro, grow up.

You remind me of this story I heard about when this guy from Brooklyn came to LA and thought shit was sweet. Always said "B" and people from Cali knew that, but the 60's told him to stop and he couldn't. He got dragged through the parking lot for that shit. You remind me of him.

but you didn't peep my last post dawg you gon be proud of the kid for real

soul rattler · April 2012

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

soul rattler wrote: »

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

"People do not want to let Hip Hop go" Nigga, hip hop gave birth to rap...and rap shit is too easy. But you confused as hell bruh...just like your name. How you an MC and a rapper? It's either or...

Nas, Jay-Z, Lil Wayne, and Lauryn Hill would like a word with you.

But you didn't answer the question...

Nas = MC

Jay-Z = Rapper

Lil Wayne = Rapper

Lauryn Hill = MC

it doesn't blend homie...its either or...so what are you saying?

By saying Nas and Lauryn Hill are just MC's and not rappers, you ignore that they're nice as fuck with flow, wordplay and lyricism.

By saying Jay-Z and Lil Wayne are rappers and not MC's, you ignore how they captivate their live audiences with their words.

ROZAYTABERNACLE · April 2012

GeE-757 wrote: »

DMTxCannabis wrote: »

As far as Kendrick, his new single with Dre is bangin. I hope he doesn't suffer from the same fate as Rakim when he signed to Interscope, or others that were under Dre such as GAGE. Because Kendrick is dope as hell when he wants to be.

that kendrick single aint makin no noise out herr n va r u still n nc or ny & if so r they playin that shit? lol

hip-hopisalive wrote: »

didn't illbot just ban your ass?

yeah but my bannin wasnt legit cuz we got homotional crackaz & cracka protectorz who love 2 abuse da wack bitch reaction shit thatz y i got 1k flagg;d postz & i dont even have 1k postz smh so again FUK A CRACKA, CRACKA PROTECTOR & A ILLBOT...

damn bruh, you stackin up them troll points!

yeah i rap so don't · April 2012

MC The Rapper wrote: »

yeah i rap so don't wrote: »

MC The Rapper wrote: »

yeah i rap so don't wrote: »

MC The Rapper wrote: »

judahxulu wrote: »

MC The Rapper wrote: »

I agree with you but I'm gonna tell why people like Kendrick , it a similar reason people like J.Cole because in people

minds at least their trying to be thought provoking at least they trying to talk about social issues at least they trying to talk

about positive stuff. People do not want to let Hip Hop go and they want to push the people that at least trying to the

forefront even if they put out shit music. Their emotionally attached to those guys and they would rather see those guys at

the top than Lil Wayne or Nicki Minaj.

i had an argument about this with some guys who supposed to be like uber-revolutionaries. my whole thing is that once they get in the game to comete with nicki manj and lil wayne, they will have to tone it down or end up on a milk carton. you get in their game you gotta play by their rules. not jumping in bed with dr.dre (literally and/or figuratively) was the smartest thing kendrick lamar prolly ever done. he would go the way of rakim...

Yeah you have to conform look at Drake wasn't come back season on some conscious shit. J.cole had to conform, Kendrick

gon have to conform as well. I think Schoolboy Q is going to do better in this situation then Kendrick or Absoul.

Did you give me a "feelings" response? Do I have to tell you "than" is needed in comparisons? You used "then" instead of the proper word bro.

I don't be hitting those buttons when I post or proof reeding or none of that there you talking about. Their you go

"There" is what you wanted to use. "Their" is used in terms of possession or ownership. It is not really difficult to remember these things bro.

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

hip-hopisalive wrote: »

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

That black hippy shit is some of the most GAYEST shit ever on the scene

You hipster niggas are down low and don't even know that shit

Shit needs to die yesterday...

You must have odd future and black hippy mixed up

I might. But honestly the whole scene is borderline gay. I don't rock the shit I see those cats in. I'm not preppy. I'm not hippy...I'm a rugged man...I don't do that metrosexual horseshit

And hippy wear in general, no bullshit, is metrosexual horseshit

You reek of typical east coast love means hating the west coast. It is effeminate to behave in such a manner. You do not have to hate the west coast for existing and you not being from there. You couldn't walk through the Nickerson Gardens. I have been down there and it is not a place to joke about. You wouldn't survive wearing blue down there unless you had a pass. You can't walk into their projects and make it out unless you have a pass. I have been all through Hoover and I know a couple of those dudes. You would get the breaks beaten off you. Compton is real quiet at times and random guns hots the rest of the time. Yea, Ab-Soul is from Carson, but grew up with those EC 190's and EC Crip may be the biggest unit outside of the Neighborhood Crips in terms of that umbrella. I just never understood how hating a place for simply being a place validates anything. You fucking disgust me bro, grow up.

You remind me of this story I heard about when this guy from Brooklyn came to LA and thought shit was sweet. Always said "B" and people from Cali knew that, but the 60's told him to stop and he couldn't. He got dragged through the parking lot for that shit. You remind me of him.

but you didn't peep my last post dawg you gon be proud of the kid for real

You missed some commas and did not place a question mark in the post above it. I am not big on having to have commas on message boards, but certain things should be right.

DMTxCannabis · April 2012

GeE-757 wrote: »

that kendrick single aint makin no noise out herr n va r u still n nc or ny & if so r they playin that shit? lol

Nah, i'm in NC, and I didn't hear it on their radio station 102Jamz. I might request that song this week if I remember.

The Recipe got like 700k views collectively on YouTube so far...But it might blow, who knows?

...Black & Yellow rose up the charts slow, but made it to #1 on Billboard's Hot 100 in February after being released in September. Work Out by J. Cole took a lil while to blow as well, and it was eventually certified platinum.

judahxulu · April 2012

I know one thing about cali. If you are wearing african garb you get an automatic pass on color. At least i did. i was selling food too though.

soul rattler · April 2012

judahxulu wrote: »

soul rattler wrote: »

judahxulu wrote: »

soul rattler wrote: »

I gave you the no-sign. You gave a well-articulated explanation. There are rappers that have great flow but don't oft say much in depth i.e. Busta Rhymes, modern Eminem, Crooked I. Kendrick Lamar doesn't fall in that category

I haven't listened to O.D. in it's entirety but I listened to Section.80 from beginning to end and his songs are purposeful and there are meaningful lines behind his flow. You can't listen to an older album and count it against his newer material because he's obviously still growing as an artist/lyricist/rapper.

Putting Kendrick Lamar in the same category as OFWGKTA is like putting a young Shaq in the same category as the 2011-2012 Clippers. They're good at appeasing their fan base but he's a legend in the making.

meh...hes overrated. good but overrated. hes better with his boys for a couple years. imo, they balance him out. well shit..just schoolboy q really. ab-soul cool but...

i aint hating on him but i just dont wanna see another talented rapper coming out at least trying to talk about sumn go the way of lupe's fiasoes. Im pretty much guessing how good his actual album is going to be is based on how well he assimilates his newfound attention for his hork and all the good and bad shit that comes with that. that being said...he seems like a young dude that likes to kick it too much and thats gone bring more bad shit than good. That being said, unless he pulls a Cee-Lo sissy makeover between now and then, ill download at least half that mu'fucka and if its tight ill buy the physical cd. im jus saying tho, just cause you like an artist dont mean you gotta dick ride him and be blind to critiques, which if expressed intelligently might be seen or heard by the artist which will make for better music if the artist actually give a fuck. but damn...niggas was acting the same way about jay electronica. 2 years i give him. how he get into the game gone make or break him and the niggas high profile already so stakes are higher.

The Lupe Fiasco way you talked about had less to do with the rapper and more to do with industry and label politics. I'm not saying it was unavoidable, but he's not completely to blame for that. There's no telling what will happen to Lamar because although he's on Aftermath, it's still Interscope... that's a glass half empty/glass half full type deal.

The first track I ever heard from the kid was Rigamortus and that's all the proof anyone should need as far as what Lamar is capable of.

And niggas act the way they do about Lamar and Jay Elec because they don't make excuses about their intelligence, beliefs, or priorities AND they are solid lyricists who don't dumb down or turn rappityrap (Joell Ortiz, Cory Gunz).

We want to see Kendrick Lamar, Jay Electronica, and Big K.R.I.T succede because it means hope ain't lost for the culture. J. Cole's success is cool but those guys are a step up.

b.ig. krit kinda boring to me. its like they need to fuse him and david banner together cause they remind me of one another kinda but they both lacking that x factor. and keep it real so, you know jay elec and kendrick lamar be on some rappity rap shit sometimes. its just fresher than how cats like ortiz and them do it. as far as beliefs go, i think some of that is just thrown in there to sound exotic cause they basically nullify the positive shit with something ignorant later on. but once again they are talented so it sounds fresh. but no lie...sometimes the positive edge comes off inauthentic. back to big k.r.i.t tho his strength is that his shit is real sincere and ive heard nothing with an inauthentic twinge from him. seem like that cat is about what he say he about.

So in other words, you're not feeling that Jay Elec and Lamar aren't preachy "Save the whales, turn the other cheek" cats? They're still from the hood. Trust, there's a difference between being ignorant and being "ignant". Being ignorant is saying some dumb/incorrect shit. I know you know that judah. I've seen you get ignant on some fools on the IC.

"And even after all my logic and my theory, I add a 'motherfucker' so y'all ignorant niggas hear me" - Lauryn Hill

That's what Jay Elec and Lamar do from time to time. I've never seen or heard them contradict themselves. And I don't know how you can say KRIT is boring yet sincere. Sincerity is what keeps my attention no matter who you are or what you do. But that's just me.

Dr.Chemix · April 2012

soul rattler wrote: »

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

soul rattler wrote: »

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

"People do not want to let Hip Hop go" Nigga, hip hop gave birth to rap...and rap shit is too easy. But you confused as hell bruh...just like your name. How you an MC and a rapper? It's either or...

Nas, Jay-Z, Lil Wayne, and Lauryn Hill would like a word with you.

But you didn't answer the question...

Nas = MC

Jay-Z = Rapper

Lil Wayne = Rapper

Lauryn Hill = MC

it doesn't blend homie...its either or...so what are you saying?

By saying Nas and Lauryn Hill are just MC's and not rappers, you ignore that they're nice as fuck with flow, wordplay and lyricism.

By saying Jay-Z and Lil Wayne are rappers and not MC's, you ignore how they captivate their live audiences with their words.

No I did not. You just don't understand the difference between an MC and a rapper. Nas and Lauryn Hill are MCs. That includes having good delivery (flow), wordplay and lyricism-in which wordplay and lyricism is one of the same.

Jay-Z and Lil Wayne are rappers, yes. Captivating young audiences with their words? That's rapping

Listen, an MC is never the majority. Majority likes rap. A young dude is less likely to get into MC than he is rapping. We can all rap. I can talk about cars, clothes, money, hoes, trap, brand name drops, phantoms, different color watches-thats all rap shit. Rap shit is nothing more than mindless murmuring.

MCing is another aspect. An MC can talk about the Periodic table but that shit will have your head bobbing. An MC doesn't need an overly hyped beat. The beat has to be plain but never overshadowing so the MC can do the same with the track. MCs are socially conscious because it takes a conscious approach to be an MC. MCs are not followers, they don't follow the mantra of the rap world. More quality is taken from the MC because more thought has been put into the verses than rappers who only spit what's hot amongst other rappers. MCs must have stage presence more so than a rapper. An MCs validity is based upon his words, a rapper's is based upon his beat and hook

Just like this forum...its called The Reason and the description says supposedly hip hop is discussed here. But hip hop isn't discussed here, its rap shit that's discussed daily. If hip hop and emceeing was truly discussed here, you niggas would have vacated a long time ago.

soul rattler · April 2012

DMTxCannabis wrote: »

GeE-757 wrote: »

that kendrick single aint makin no noise out herr n va r u still n nc or ny & if so r they playin that shit? lol

Nah, i'm in NC, and I didn't hear it on their radio station 102Jamz. I might request that song this week if I remember.

The Recipe got like 700k views collectively on YouTube so far...But it might blow, who knows?

...Black & Yellow rose up the charts slow, but made it to #1 on Billboard's Hot 100 in February after being released in September. Work Out by J. Cole took a lil while to blow as well, and it was eventually certified platinum.

You can't compare anything out right now to Black and Yellow because that song ended up being the soundtrack for the fuckin Superbowl lol that was luck of the draw.

Dr.Chemix · April 2012

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

soul rattler wrote: »

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

soul rattler wrote: »

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

"People do not want to let Hip Hop go" Nigga, hip hop gave birth to rap...and rap shit is too easy. But you confused as hell bruh...just like your name. How you an MC and a rapper? It's either or...

Nas, Jay-Z, Lil Wayne, and Lauryn Hill would like a word with you.

But you didn't answer the question...

Nas = MC

Jay-Z = Rapper

Lil Wayne = Rapper

Lauryn Hill = MC

it doesn't blend homie...its either or...so what are you saying?

By saying Nas and Lauryn Hill are just MC's and not rappers, you ignore that they're nice as fuck with flow, wordplay and lyricism.

By saying Jay-Z and Lil Wayne are rappers and not MC's, you ignore how they captivate their live audiences with their words.

No I did not. You just don't understand the difference between an MC and a rapper. Nas and Lauryn Hill are MCs. That includes having good delivery (flow), wordplay and lyricism-in which wordplay and lyricism is one of the same.

Jay-Z and Lil Wayne are rappers, yes. "Captivating young audiences with their words?" No one is captivated by the words in rapping. C'mon be real, when you cop that CD, you don't listen for what he says in the bars when its comes to rapping. When that beat drop, you expect it to knock proper. If the beat sounds wack, you not checking for it. That's rapping yo. Even so, its a slap to the listener's face...they have broken down the raps in rap so much now that they sound like they sounding out vowels for you to learn the words. MCs don't do that. Shit, real MCs make you rewind that shit back. Not be on some "parade...macy's" type of retarded shit.

Listen, an MC is never the majority. Majority likes rap. A young dude is less likely to get into MC than he is rapping. We can all rap. I can talk about cars, clothes, money, hoes, trap, brand name drops, phantoms, different color watches-thats all rap shit. Rap shit is nothing more than mindless murmuring.

MCing is another aspect. An MC can talk about the Periodic table but that shit will have your head bobbing. An MC doesn't need an overly hyped beat. The beat has to be plain but never overshadowing so the MC can do the same with the track. MCs are socially conscious because it takes a conscious approach to be an MC. MCs are not followers, they don't follow the mantra of the rap world. More quality is taken from the MC because more thought has been put into the verses than rappers who only spit what's hot amongst other rappers. MCs must have stage presence more so than a rapper. An MCs validity is based upon his words, a rapper's is based upon his beat and hook

Just like this forum...its called The Reason and the description says supposedly hip hop is discussed here. But hip hop isn't discussed here, its rap shit that's discussed daily. If hip hop and emceeing was truly discussed here, you niggas would have vacated a long time ago.

Dr.Chemix · April 2012

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Dr.Chemix · April 2012

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GeE-757 · April 2012

DMTxCannabis wrote: »

Nah, i'm in NC, and I didn't hear it on their radio station 102Jamz. I might request that song this week if I remember.

The Recipe got like 700k views collectively on YouTube so far...But it might blow, who knows?

...Black & Yellow rose up the charts slow, but made it to #1 on Billboard's Hot 100 in February after being released in September. Work Out by J. Cole took a lil while to blow as well, and it was eventually certified platinum.

thatz wat i thought that kendrick single aint gettin no spinz on da east plus da single is kool but i knew it wasnt gonna b a nationwide hit not wit alize rappin kendrick aint da cracka now cuz feminem wouldve made that single PLATINUM lol

DMTxCannabis · April 2012

soul rattler wrote: »

You can't compare anything out right now to Black and Yellow because that song ended up being the soundtrack for the fuckin Superbowl lol that was luck of the draw.

Lol, well yeah. I overlooked that.

High Revolutionary · April 2012

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

soul rattler wrote: »

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

soul rattler wrote: »

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

"People do not want to let Hip Hop go" Nigga, hip hop gave birth to rap...and rap shit is too easy. But you confused as hell bruh...just like your name. How you an MC and a rapper? It's either or...

Nas, Jay-Z, Lil Wayne, and Lauryn Hill would like a word with you.

But you didn't answer the question...

Nas = MC

Jay-Z = Rapper

Lil Wayne = Rapper

Lauryn Hill = MC

it doesn't blend homie...its either or...so what are you saying?

By saying Nas and Lauryn Hill are just MC's and not rappers, you ignore that they're nice as fuck with flow, wordplay and lyricism.

By saying Jay-Z and Lil Wayne are rappers and not MC's, you ignore how they captivate their live audiences with their words.

No I did not. You just don't understand the difference between an MC and a rapper. Nas and Lauryn Hill are MCs. That includes having good delivery (flow), wordplay and lyricism-in which wordplay and lyricism is one of the same.

Jay-Z and Lil Wayne are rappers, yes. Captivating young audiences with their words? That's rapping

Listen, an MC is never the majority. Majority likes rap. A young dude is less likely to get into MC than he is rapping. We can all rap. I can talk about cars, clothes, money, hoes, trap, brand name drops, phantoms, different color watches-thats all rap shit. Rap shit is nothing more than mindless murmuring.

MCing is another aspect. An MC can talk about the Periodic table but that shit will have your head bobbing. An MC doesn't need an overly hyped beat. The beat has to be plain but never overshadowing so the MC can do the same with the track. MCs are socially conscious because it takes a conscious approach to be an MC. MCs are not followers, they don't follow the mantra of the rap world. More quality is taken from the MC because more thought has been put into the verses than rappers who only spit what's hot amongst other rappers. MCs must have stage presence more so than a rapper. An MCs validity is based upon his words, a rapper's is based upon his beat and hook

Just like this forum...its called The Reason and the description says supposedly hip hop is discussed here. But hip hop isn't discussed here, its rap shit that's discussed daily. If hip hop and emceeing was truly discussed here, you niggas would have vacated a long time ago.

That's an interesting breakdown.

But couldn't you argue that an artist can traverse between being an MC and a rapper?

judahxulu · April 2012

soul rattler wrote: »

judahxulu wrote: »

soul rattler wrote: »

judahxulu wrote: »

soul rattler wrote: »

I gave you the no-sign. You gave a well-articulated explanation. There are rappers that have great flow but don't oft say much in depth i.e. Busta Rhymes, modern Eminem, Crooked I. Kendrick Lamar doesn't fall in that category

I haven't listened to O.D. in it's entirety but I listened to Section.80 from beginning to end and his songs are purposeful and there are meaningful lines behind his flow. You can't listen to an older album and count it against his newer material because he's obviously still growing as an artist/lyricist/rapper.

Putting Kendrick Lamar in the same category as OFWGKTA is like putting a young Shaq in the same category as the 2011-2012 Clippers. They're good at appeasing their fan base but he's a legend in the making.

meh...hes overrated. good but overrated. hes better with his boys for a couple years. imo, they balance him out. well shit..just schoolboy q really. ab-soul cool but...

i aint hating on him but i just dont wanna see another talented rapper coming out at least trying to talk about sumn go the way of lupe's fiasoes. Im pretty much guessing how good his actual album is going to be is based on how well he assimilates his newfound attention for his hork and all the good and bad shit that comes with that. that being said...he seems like a young dude that likes to kick it too much and thats gone bring more bad shit than good. That being said, unless he pulls a Cee-Lo sissy makeover between now and then, ill download at least half that mu'fucka and if its tight ill buy the physical cd. im jus saying tho, just cause you like an artist dont mean you gotta dick ride him and be blind to critiques, which if expressed intelligently might be seen or heard by the artist which will make for better music if the artist actually give a fuck. but damn...niggas was acting the same way about jay electronica. 2 years i give him. how he get into the game gone make or break him and the niggas high profile already so stakes are higher.

The Lupe Fiasco way you talked about had less to do with the rapper and more to do with industry and label politics. I'm not saying it was unavoidable, but he's not completely to blame for that. There's no telling what will happen to Lamar because although he's on Aftermath, it's still Interscope... that's a glass half empty/glass half full type deal.

The first track I ever heard from the kid was Rigamortus and that's all the proof anyone should need as far as what Lamar is capable of.

And niggas act the way they do about Lamar and Jay Elec because they don't make excuses about their intelligence, beliefs, or priorities AND they are solid lyricists who don't dumb down or turn rappityrap (Joell Ortiz, Cory Gunz).

We want to see Kendrick Lamar, Jay Electronica, and Big K.R.I.T succede because it means hope ain't lost for the culture. J. Cole's success is cool but those guys are a step up.

b.ig. krit kinda boring to me. its like they need to fuse him and david banner together cause they remind me of one another kinda but they both lacking that x factor. and keep it real so, you know jay elec and kendrick lamar be on some rappity rap shit sometimes. its just fresher than how cats like ortiz and them do it. as far as beliefs go, i think some of that is just thrown in there to sound exotic cause they basically nullify the positive shit with something ignorant later on. but once again they are talented so it sounds fresh. but no lie...sometimes the positive edge comes off inauthentic. back to big k.r.i.t tho his strength is that his shit is real sincere and ive heard nothing with an inauthentic twinge from him. seem like that cat is about what he say he about.

So in other words, you're not feeling that Jay Elec and Lamar aren't preachy "Save the whales, turn the other cheek" cats? They're still from the hood. Trust, there's a difference between being ignorant and being "ignant". Being ignorant is saying some dumb/incorrect shit. I know you know that judah. I've seen you get ignant on some fools on the IC.

"And even after all my logic and my theory, I add a 'motherfucker' so y'all ignorant niggas hear me" - Lauryn Hill

That's what Jay Elec and Lamar do from time to time. I've never seen or heard them contradict themselves. And I don't know how you can say KRIT is boring yet sincere. Sincerity is what keeps my attention no matter who you are or what you do. But that's just me.

im from the golden era and grown to a man in the biog and pac era so im a bit spioled off top with my taste in hip-hop. also, im into language and poetry and i consider rap the most intricate form of poetry. my critiques come from that level. Common got the conscious..im still hood balance right. goodie mob do /did that shit. outkast too. they shit vibes with my soul. and none of them have the technical skill of k.dot by a long shot. still they have consistently made timeless stuff. im criticizing the street side or the conscious side seeming contrived at times. ive lived both lives so i know bullshit on that wise when i hear it. and sincerity will pique my interest but boring sincerity wont make it on my heavy bag playlist. not to say krit aint dope ....but there has been too many dissapointments for me in the past few years about the next new nigga coming out being the potential GOAT and im just going to be reserved about that shit until i see how these cats shit sounds once they kick they door in.

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judahxulu · April 2012

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

soul rattler wrote: »

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

soul rattler wrote: »

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

"People do not want to let Hip Hop go" Nigga, hip hop gave birth to rap...and rap shit is too easy. But you confused as hell bruh...just like your name. How you an MC and a rapper? It's either or...

Nas, Jay-Z, Lil Wayne, and Lauryn Hill would like a word with you.

But you didn't answer the question...

Nas = MC

Jay-Z = Rapper

Lil Wayne = Rapper

Lauryn Hill = MC

it doesn't blend homie...its either or...so what are you saying?

By saying Nas and Lauryn Hill are just MC's and not rappers, you ignore that they're nice as fuck with flow, wordplay and lyricism.

By saying Jay-Z and Lil Wayne are rappers and not MC's, you ignore how they captivate their live audiences with their words.

No I did not. You just don't understand the difference between an MC and a rapper. Nas and Lauryn Hill are MCs. That includes having good delivery (flow), wordplay and lyricism-in which wordplay and lyricism is one of the same.

Jay-Z and Lil Wayne are rappers, yes. Captivating young audiences with their words? That's rapping

Listen, an MC is never the majority. Majority likes rap. A young dude is less likely to get into MC than he is rapping. We can all rap. I can talk about cars, clothes, money, hoes, trap, brand name drops, phantoms, different color watches-thats all rap shit. Rap shit is nothing more than mindless murmuring.

MCing is another aspect. An MC can talk about the Periodic table but that shit will have your head bobbing. An MC doesn't need an overly hyped beat. The beat has to be plain but never overshadowing so the MC can do the same with the track. MCs are socially conscious because it takes a conscious approach to be an MC. MCs are not followers, they don't follow the mantra of the rap world. More quality is taken from the MC because more thought has been put into the verses than rappers who only spit what's hot amongst other rappers. MCs must have stage presence more so than a rapper. An MCs validity is based upon his words, a rapper's is based upon his beat and hook

Just like this forum...its called The Reason and the description says supposedly hip hop is discussed here. But hip hop isn't discussed here, its rap shit that's discussed daily. If hip hop and emceeing was truly discussed here, you niggas would have vacated a long time ago.

nigga, did you just say what i was trying to say, but smarter and shit?

soul rattler · April 2012

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

soul rattler wrote: »

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

soul rattler wrote: »

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

"People do not want to let Hip Hop go" Nigga, hip hop gave birth to rap...and rap shit is too easy. But you confused as hell bruh...just like your name. How you an MC and a rapper? It's either or...

Nas, Jay-Z, Lil Wayne, and Lauryn Hill would like a word with you.

But you didn't answer the question...

Nas = MC

Jay-Z = Rapper

Lil Wayne = Rapper

Lauryn Hill = MC

it doesn't blend homie...its either or...so what are you saying?

By saying Nas and Lauryn Hill are just MC's and not rappers, you ignore that they're nice as fuck with flow, wordplay and lyricism.

By saying Jay-Z and Lil Wayne are rappers and not MC's, you ignore how they captivate their live audiences with their words.

No I did not. You just don't understand the difference between an MC and a rapper. Nas and Lauryn Hill are MCs. That includes having good delivery (flow), wordplay and lyricism-in which wordplay and lyricism is one of the same.

Jay-Z and Lil Wayne are rappers, yes. Captivating young audiences with their words? That's rapping

Listen, an MC is never the majority. Majority likes rap. A young dude is less likely to get into MC than he is rapping. We can all rap. I can talk about cars, clothes, money, hoes, trap, brand name drops, phantoms, different color watches-thats all rap shit. Rap shit is nothing more than mindless murmuring.

MCing is another aspect. An MC can talk about the Periodic table but that shit will have your head bobbing. An MC doesn't need an overly hyped beat. The beat has to be plain but never overshadowing so the MC can do the same with the track. MCs are socially conscious because it takes a conscious approach to be an MC. MCs are not followers, they don't follow the mantra of the rap world. More quality is taken from the MC because more thought has been put into the verses than rappers who only spit what's hot amongst other rappers. MCs must have stage presence more so than a rapper. An MCs validity is based upon his words, a rapper's is based upon his beat and hook

Just like this forum...its called The Reason and the description says supposedly hip hop is discussed here. But hip hop isn't discussed here, its rap shit that's discussed daily. If hip hop and emceeing was truly discussed here, you niggas would have vacated a long time ago.

I'm right. The MC and the rapper aren't as polarizing as you think and elite rappers don't rely on beats. MC'ing is about presence and rapping is about technical lyrical skill. You're definitions are just screwed up. There are MC's and DJ/MC's at clubs all over America that get the party hopping just by saying the right things over the right record and most of the time (at black clubs) you hear the same things:

"If you making more than $12 an hour make some noise"
"Ladies if yo pussy taste good scream"

And a millions variations of that... Basic as hell but they're speaking to their audience and effective MC'ing. But then you get somebody like Jay-Z who can evoke emotion through his presence because people understand what he's saying and appreciate the complexity of his delivery.

Bottom line, you can be a rapper and an MC. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

soul rattler · April 2012

judahxulu wrote: »

soul rattler wrote: »

judahxulu wrote: »

soul rattler wrote: »

judahxulu wrote: »

soul rattler wrote: »

I gave you the no-sign. You gave a well-articulated explanation. There are rappers that have great flow but don't oft say much in depth i.e. Busta Rhymes, modern Eminem, Crooked I. Kendrick Lamar doesn't fall in that category

I haven't listened to O.D. in it's entirety but I listened to Section.80 from beginning to end and his songs are purposeful and there are meaningful lines behind his flow. You can't listen to an older album and count it against his newer material because he's obviously still growing as an artist/lyricist/rapper.

Putting Kendrick Lamar in the same category as OFWGKTA is like putting a young Shaq in the same category as the 2011-2012 Clippers. They're good at appeasing their fan base but he's a legend in the making.

meh...hes overrated. good but overrated. hes better with his boys for a couple years. imo, they balance him out. well shit..just schoolboy q really. ab-soul cool but...

i aint hating on him but i just dont wanna see another talented rapper coming out at least trying to talk about sumn go the way of lupe's fiasoes. Im pretty much guessing how good his actual album is going to be is based on how well he assimilates his newfound attention for his hork and all the good and bad shit that comes with that. that being said...he seems like a young dude that likes to kick it too much and thats gone bring more bad shit than good. That being said, unless he pulls a Cee-Lo sissy makeover between now and then, ill download at least half that mu'fucka and if its tight ill buy the physical cd. im jus saying tho, just cause you like an artist dont mean you gotta dick ride him and be blind to critiques, which if expressed intelligently might be seen or heard by the artist which will make for better music if the artist actually give a fuck. but damn...niggas was acting the same way about jay electronica. 2 years i give him. how he get into the game gone make or break him and the niggas high profile already so stakes are higher.

The Lupe Fiasco way you talked about had less to do with the rapper and more to do with industry and label politics. I'm not saying it was unavoidable, but he's not completely to blame for that. There's no telling what will happen to Lamar because although he's on Aftermath, it's still Interscope... that's a glass half empty/glass half full type deal.

The first track I ever heard from the kid was Rigamortus and that's all the proof anyone should need as far as what Lamar is capable of.

And niggas act the way they do about Lamar and Jay Elec because they don't make excuses about their intelligence, beliefs, or priorities AND they are solid lyricists who don't dumb down or turn rappityrap (Joell Ortiz, Cory Gunz).

We want to see Kendrick Lamar, Jay Electronica, and Big K.R.I.T succede because it means hope ain't lost for the culture. J. Cole's success is cool but those guys are a step up.

b.ig. krit kinda boring to me. its like they need to fuse him and david banner together cause they remind me of one another kinda but they both lacking that x factor. and keep it real so, you know jay elec and kendrick lamar be on some rappity rap shit sometimes. its just fresher than how cats like ortiz and them do it. as far as beliefs go, i think some of that is just thrown in there to sound exotic cause they basically nullify the positive shit with something ignorant later on. but once again they are talented so it sounds fresh. but no lie...sometimes the positive edge comes off inauthentic. back to big k.r.i.t tho his strength is that his shit is real sincere and ive heard nothing with an inauthentic twinge from him. seem like that cat is about what he say he about.

So in other words, you're not feeling that Jay Elec and Lamar aren't preachy "Save the whales, turn the other cheek" cats? They're still from the hood. Trust, there's a difference between being ignorant and being "ignant". Being ignorant is saying some dumb/incorrect shit. I know you know that judah. I've seen you get ignant on some fools on the IC.

"And even after all my logic and my theory, I add a 'motherfucker' so y'all ignorant niggas hear me" - Lauryn Hill

That's what Jay Elec and Lamar do from time to time. I've never seen or heard them contradict themselves. And I don't know how you can say KRIT is boring yet sincere. Sincerity is what keeps my attention no matter who you are or what you do. But that's just me.

im from the golden era and grown to a man in the biog and pac era so im a bit spioled off top with my taste in hip-hop. also, im into language and poetry and i consider rap the most intricate form of poetry. my critiques come from that level. Common got the conscious..im still hood balance right. goodie mob do /did that shit. outkast too. they shit vibes with my soul. and none of them have the technical skill of k.dot by a long shot. still they have consistently made timeless stuff. im criticizing the street side or the conscious side seeming contrived at times. ive lived both lives so i know bullshit on that wise when i hear it. and sincerity will pique my interest but boring sincerity wont make it on my heavy bag playlist. not to say krit aint dope ....but there has been too many dissapointments for me in the past few years about the next new nigga coming out being the potential GOAT and im just going to be reserved about that shit until i see how these cats shit sounds once they kick they door in.

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respect

ROZAYTABERNACLE · April 2012

TS can you explain why you said you can't be a Kendrick fan because you feel he's overhyped? Plus, you're not even going off of his most recent project, you're going off of a 2 year old mixtape. He's made progress since then.

H-Rap 180 · April 2012

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

H-Rap 180 wrote: »

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

That black hippy shit is some of the most GAYEST shit ever on the scene

You hipster niggas are down low and don't even know that shit

Shit needs to die yesterday...

The cartoon-child on the Boondocks often says Gay/Gayest so it's safe to assume you are another victim of a poster living vicariously through the people they insert in their avatars.

Black Hippy = Jay Rock: A Bounty Hunter Blood from the Nickerson Garden projects

Black Hippy = Schoolboy Q: A 5-Duece Hoover Crip from the streets of Los Angelas

Black Hippy = Kendrick Lamar: from COMPTON California...yeah that Compton

So you must be talking about Ab-Soul being a "hipster-nigga" or "gayest" because he from Carson but that's the perfect ingredient because it rounds out the crew and reflects the demographics of the West Coast better than some skater-fags and wannabees on the outside looking in.

LOL, cartoon kiddies.

This nigga just learned a new word yesterday. Nigga shut the fuck up. You are one of those homo erotic niggas on here, I've read your posts and I think you're a fucking clown in tampon wrappings.

You must be one of these tight pants wearing homos...

Nice use of the "N-Word" it makes you sound more "authentic"

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

H-Rap 180 wrote: »

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

That black hippy shit is some of the most GAYEST shit ever on the scene

You hipster niggas are down low and don't even know that shit

Shit needs to die yesterday...

The cartoon-child on the Boondocks often says Gay/Gayest so it's safe to assume you are another victim of a poster living vicariously through the people they insert in their avatars.

Black Hippy = Jay Rock: A Bounty Hunter Blood from the Nickerson Garden projects

Black Hippy = Schoolboy Q: A 5-Duece Hoover Crip from the streets of Los Angelas

Black Hippy = Kendrick Lamar: from COMPTON California...yeah that Compton

So you must be talking about Ab-Soul being a "hipster-nigga" or "gayest" because he from Carson but that's the perfect ingredient because it rounds out the crew and reflects the demographics of the West Coast better than some skater-fags and wannabees on the outside looking in.

LOL, cartoon kiddies.

This nigga just learned a new word yesterday. Nigga shut the fuck up. You are one of those homo erotic niggas on here, I've read your posts and I think you're a fucking clown in tampon wrappings.

You must be one of these tight pants wearing homos...

You got a cool little gimmick but when you overuse the word "Nigga" and use words like "Horseshit" you kinda expose yourself.

I can't say I have read your posts outside of this thread, all of you trolling weirdos are the same to me.

Naw, I'm not into tight pants but I can see the bitch in you simply because you try to hard but can't hide the corniness.

soul rattler · April 2012

This guy can't be serious... I can see this conversation will just keep going in circles so I'll gracefully bow out.

Disciplined InSight · April 2012

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

soul rattler wrote: »

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

soul rattler wrote: »

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

"People do not want to let Hip Hop go" Nigga, hip hop gave birth to rap...and rap shit is too easy. But you confused as hell bruh...just like your name. How you an MC and a rapper? It's either or...

Nas, Jay-Z, Lil Wayne, and Lauryn Hill would like a word with you.

But you didn't answer the question...

Nas = MC

Jay-Z = Rapper

Lil Wayne = Rapper

Lauryn Hill = MC

it doesn't blend homie...its either or...so what are you saying?

By saying Nas and Lauryn Hill are just MC's and not rappers, you ignore that they're nice as fuck with flow, wordplay and lyricism.

By saying Jay-Z and Lil Wayne are rappers and not MC's, you ignore how they captivate their live audiences with their words.

No I did not. You just don't understand the difference between an MC and a rapper. Nas and Lauryn Hill are MCs. That includes having good delivery (flow), wordplay and lyricism-in which wordplay and lyricism is one of the same.

Jay-Z and Lil Wayne are rappers, yes. Captivating young audiences with their words? That's rapping

Listen, an MC is never the majority. Majority likes rap. A young dude is less likely to get into MC than he is rapping. We can all rap. I can talk about cars, clothes, money, hoes, trap, brand name drops, phantoms, different color watches-thats all rap shit. Rap shit is nothing more than mindless murmuring.

MCing is another aspect. An MC can talk about the Periodic table but that shit will have your head bobbing. An MC doesn't need an overly hyped beat. The beat has to be plain but never overshadowing so the MC can do the same with the track. MCs are socially conscious because it takes a conscious approach to be an MC. MCs are not followers, they don't follow the mantra of the rap world. More quality is taken from the MC because more thought has been put into the verses than rappers who only spit what's hot amongst other rappers. MCs must have stage presence more so than a rapper. An MCs validity is based upon his words, a rapper's is based upon his beat and hook

Just like this forum...its called The Reason and the description says supposedly hip hop is discussed here. But hip hop isn't discussed here, its rap shit that's discussed daily. If hip hop and emceeing was truly discussed here, you niggas would have vacated a long time ago.

This deserves the GOAT option.

H-Rap 180 · April 2012

SuperstarCole wrote: »

Dr. chemix sounding like the old negro next door neighbor right now.

Can't co-sign that, he sounds like Malibus Most Wanted.

The biggest Queers and Squares try to sound "Hard" online but certified dudes relish the opportunity to sound intelligent online because that's usuaLly our only opportunity.

GeE-757 wrote: »

H-Rap 180 wrote: »

The cartoon-child on the Boondocks often says Gay/Gayest so it's safe to assume you are another victim of a poster living vicariously through the people they insert in their avatars.

Black Hippy = Jay Rock: A Bounty Hunter Blood from the Nickerson Garden projects

Black Hippy = Schoolboy Q: A 5-Duece Hoover Crip from the streets of Los Angelas

Black Hippy = Kendrick Lamar: from COMPTON California...yeah that Compton

So you must be talking about Ab-Soul being a "hipster-nigga" or "gayest" because he from Carson but that's the perfect ingredient because it rounds out the crew and reflects the demographics of the West Coast better than some skater-fags and wannabees on the outside looking in.

LOL, cartoon kiddies.

that may b tru but ya boy is LOST like 4real he said a SNITCH saved his life now wtf is that about when did woodface go 2 jail? when did woodface body sum1 like he b spittin n them studio gangsta rapz? when did woodface live anythang he spit besidez sellin a lil crack? & skoolboy is from da WESTCOAST wherr when woodface was @ da top back n 03 04 & WESTCOAST OGZ like YUKMOUTH & C-BO aka DA THUGLORDZ was mashin on cuuurly RATson woodface was scared 2 def on da west knowin da regime & westcoast mafia was on his rat azz sum1 betta skool skoolboy cuz da shit hez sayin praisin a WANKSTA SNITCH like WOODFACE can get him BLACKBALL;D 2day! lol

It's deeper than that bruh.

I heard that fuck-shit and I got sick to my stomach but under the influence we all say some wild shit.....I cant lie tho I was a fan
of 50-Cents mix tapes before he got exposed and I seen his true nature.

I'm rooting for them bruthas, Shoolboy ain't know no better he just heard a rap-cat like the rest of us and gravitated towards the music and now that he's on the plantation he's going to be dropping kudos and playing politically-correct for everybody that's on Shady/Aftermath/Interscope.

Morals, artistic-integrity and street-etiquette get thrown out the window when you from the slums
and now you looking at a 6-figure lifestyle and the ability to put your Mamma in a house for the first time in life.

I don't condone but I comprehend.

Politics GEE.....it's like voting for a white devil or a half-white devil, it's like selling drugs to feed your babies, it's foul all around but that's the business.

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