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Why Did Reasonable Doubt Flop When It Came Out?
Neva_Change
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in The Reason
I was just thinking about this shit . Why did this 4 mic album barely make it to gold? Was it because Jay was overshadowed by superior artists at the time? it could be. I mean Big was the king, Mobb Deep had a huge buzz, Busta was crazy, a couple wu tang members was doing well, it was written even came out the same week as reasonable doubt and that went double platinum pretty quickly. so why didn't jay blow up with this album?
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This. The closest thing jigga had to a buzz was the fact that he had Biggie on a song
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9 • Wack Feelings Nosign 7Cosign 1Ether 1GOAT LOL •Pretty much.
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3 • 1Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether 4GOAT LOL •and Biggie wasn't the one that gave Jay a smidgen of buzz, it was Foxy..."Ain't no nigga" was big in the Tri-State
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1 • Wack Feelings Nosign 1Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •exactly. You got a lot of folks in here who are just typing shit to be typing and weren't even old enough to remember.
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0 • Wack Feelings 1Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Does commercial success determine the quality or impact of an album, i mean Boot Camp Click was putting out straight classics and ain't none of them niggas ever had a gold album.
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2 • 1Wack 1Feelings Nosign Cosign 3Ether GOAT LOL •i got da album 2 but i just brake up purp on it now lol...
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4 • Wack 3Feelings Nosign Cosign 4Ether GOAT LOL •thats what i was getting at...i guess its only a flop for jay.....rd went gold before illmatic and was released over 2 years after it
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1 • Wack Feelings 1Nosign 1Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •3 and a half months to go Gold for a basically unknown new artist is a flop?
JAY-Z DEAD PRESIDENTS FEBRUARY 01, 1996 JUNE 14, 1996 PRIORITY STANDARD GOLD SINGLE SOLO
"Dead Presidents" was from a Pop Culture hit, it barely hit the charts yet off the strength of it's quality, it sold Gold. The single had "DP1" on it and that's my favorite version of the song cause it was the song that put me onto Jay Z, I copped that single that year also.
Now yes sales slowed down after that, taking another 6 years go Platinum but going Gold for a rapper in 96 was far from a flop. Sure you had Pac and Fugees breaking records for sales in 96 but they were anomalies, not the norm. Gold was the norm for a NYC artist in 96 if you were lucky.
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2 • Wack Feelings 2Nosign 2Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •give up homie folks would rather find something to hate on Jay about then worry about reality. Not to mention Pac's album sales weren't that great til all the controversy with the arrests.
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3 • Wack 1Feelings Nosign 1Cosign 2Ether GOAT LOL •Lol, well damn.
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2 • Wack Feelings Nosign 2Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •i think alot of folkz say j flop;d compared 2 pac n 96 even tho it wasnt even a fair fight cuz rd was jiggaz 1st album i know thatz y i say that lol..& even tho pacz sellz didnt blow up until after all da controversy jigga will neva do aeom numberz n his lifetime off of just 1 album
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1 • Wack 1Feelings Nosign Cosign 1Ether GOAT LOL •Also the fact is most rappers don't blow out the gate. LL Did, Biggie did as far as NYC artist, Rakim did but most did not. Pac didn't really blow until "I get around" on his 2nd LP. Fugees 1st LP flopped. Not everyone was an instant success. Jay was underground and unknown for the 1st 7 years of his career. "RD" was a success cause during a time when Biggie and NaS as well as LL were crushing buildings with sales and success. Jay came out and had a little impact and was able to have a Gold LP and Single. It took 2 years for "ILLmatic" to go Gold, it took a year and a half for "36 Chambers" to go Platinum:
NAS ILLMATIC APRIL 19, 1994 JANUARY 17, 1996 COLUMBIA STANDARD GOLD ALBUM SOLO
WU-TANG CLAN ENTER THE WU-TANG (36 CHAMBERS) NOVEMBER 09, 1993 MAY 15, 1995 RCA STANDARD PLATINUM ALBUM GROUP
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