Trayvon Martin Case.... the plot thickens

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  • on1xon1x Posts: 43
    heyslick wrote: »
    Drgoo0285 wrote: »
    fiat_money wrote: »
    LOL @ Zimmerman having enough money to pay the entire bail off without giving a fuck.

    The judge/prosecution probably won't be too happy about him sitting on $200,000 while claiming indigent.
    I think a large part of what bothers me is that there is a dishonest effort in trying to make Zimmerman the victim


    The real victims are those who have crimes committed against them just because of there skin color - being white will get you killed or maimed in certain/various parts of the country. BTW Drgoo0285, A big part of me hates those who seek retribution in this case and are determined to kill innocent people.




    BULLSHIT. BULLSHIT. BULLSHIT. i'm so fucking tired of this tired myth of whites being victimized by blacks at a disproportionate rate. if you're ANY race in certain parts of this country, you're food. it has NOTHING to do with being white. ask the countless blacks who LIVE in those areas about what they deal with on a daily basis. it borders on racism in its reductive treatment of the BLACK victims of the very same predators that target white people that end up in the "ghetto."

    it's a FACT that there is a HUGE misconception -- fueled largely by the media -- about black crime that has warped how white america treats the black population. a VERY SMALL contingent in the black community commits crime at a rate (largely due to the revolving rather than rehabilitative nature of our "justice" system) that has unfairly maligned how the vast majority of black america is perceived. as a result, blacks and whites are trapped in this cycle of self-fulfilled expectations that govern how they co-exist in this country.

    zimmerman is a symptom.
    SneakDZATopps
  • Supreme_GentlemanSupreme_Gentleman #RapeCulture Posts: 19,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    heyslick wrote: »
    heyslick wrote: »
    Drgoo0285 wrote: »
    Drgoo0285 wrote: »
    Drgoo0285 wrote: »
    Drgoo0285 wrote: »
    Matt- wrote: »

    Good article. Glad someone else acknowledged that young black men had been committin robberies in the community. And that they explained some more of his phone calls. It was dumb that people used his excessive phone calls to portray him as a vigilante when it's the COMPLETE opposite.

    also more about his calls...

    " In one case, he chased a reckless driver while calling 911 — the driver later told police he was terrified that Zimmerman was going to attack him."

    Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/23/2712299/george-zimmerman-self-appointed.html#storylink=cpy

    I mean, obviously he's a dude who wants to be some sort of hero, and at times seems to act erratically.

    Think it looks like a vigilante in hindsight because of him and Trayvon. But in reality people call the police all the time and trail the person they called them on. Old ass ladies do it. They aren't trying to be cops, they just don't want them to get away before cops show up.
    I've never seen/heard of an old lady doing it. This is way besides the point, that by doing this you make the person you are following nervous, and it's not your job to do such things.

    I agree he went beyond what was called for. But doing this and calling the police a lot doesn't make him a vigilante, and he was portrayed as one.

    well i think you and I have a different idea of what a vigilante is...

    If he kept tryin to detain the person on his own I'd call him a vigilante. But just keeping eyes on the person until the police show up isn't a vigilante.

    getting out of your car and running after someone is not just laying eyes on someone



    How come so many of you ignore the facts - Zimmerman did back-off and the aggressor was the young man. & the majority of the perpetrators were young black youth.
    Proof?



    I don't need to show proof - that's the prosecutors job. You sure like to chop us my verbiage with two different sentences from two different paragraphs dontcha. Oh well that's par for the course when dealing with those who can't handle the REAL truth.

    Why exactly would the prosecutors prove tray was the aggressor?
    SneakDZA
  • heyslickheyslick Posts: 1,179
    on1x wrote: »
    heyslick wrote: »
    Drgoo0285 wrote: »
    fiat_money wrote: »
    LOL @ Zimmerman having enough money to pay the entire bail off without giving a fuck.

    The judge/prosecution probably won't be too happy about him sitting on $200,000 while claiming indigent.
    I think a large part of what bothers me is that there is a dishonest effort in trying to make Zimmerman the victim


    The real victims are those who have crimes committed against them just because of there skin color - being white will get you killed or maimed in certain/various parts of the country. BTW Drgoo0285, A big part of me hates those who seek retribution in this case and are determined to kill innocent people.




    BULLSHIT. BULLSHIT. BULLSHIT. i'm so fucking tired of this tired myth of whites being victimized by blacks at a disproportionate rate. if you're ANY race in certain parts of this country, you're food. it has NOTHING to do with being white. ask the countless blacks who LIVE in those areas about what they deal with on a daily basis. it borders on racism in its reductive treatment of the BLACK victims of the very same predators that target white people that end up in the "ghetto."

    it's a FACT that there is a HUGE misconception -- fueled largely by the media -- about black crime that has warped how white america treats the black population. a VERY SMALL contingent in the black community commits crime at a rate (largely due to the revolving rather than rehabilitative nature of our "justice" system) that has unfairly maligned how the vast majority of black america is perceived. as a result, blacks and whites are trapped in this cycle of self-fulfilled expectations that govern how they co-exist in this country.

    zimmerman is a symptom.



    The common aspect/angle is still the same - & you're correct about the media. FYI if the various media sources would be more truthful about what's REALLY going on,MAYBE there wouldn't be this deception about black people in general. I just don't understand how identifying the suspects ethnicity isn't necessary in solving said crimes - you want fair and balanced treatment but you don't want the truth to be told - e.g., if said white man robbed you or said black man did the same then tell it like it is & quit playing this game about stating the real facts.

    Finally, NOW to bolded area above - are you actually telling me and believing that white people CANNOT be victims/victimized by black predators...& some black thugs will prey on white people in this country....BULL SHIT AND BULL SHIT again. IMO most people white who fall victim to black predators are usually so naive and trustworthy even THEY are fearful to be forthright about who attacked them - something is really fucked-up in this country when that scenario goes down.
    Seriously whomever has instilled this type of fear of not being politically correct in the masses of non-black folks has really done an injustice to all parties concerned.

    stringer bellon1xtruth_juice
  • on1xon1x Posts: 43
    heyslick wrote: »
    on1x wrote: »
    heyslick wrote: »
    Drgoo0285 wrote: »
    fiat_money wrote: »
    LOL @ Zimmerman having enough money to pay the entire bail off without giving a fuck.

    The judge/prosecution probably won't be too happy about him sitting on $200,000 while claiming indigent.
    I think a large part of what bothers me is that there is a dishonest effort in trying to make Zimmerman the victim


    The real victims are those who have crimes committed against them just because of there skin color - being white will get you killed or maimed in certain/various parts of the country. BTW Drgoo0285, A big part of me hates those who seek retribution in this case and are determined to kill innocent people.




    BULLSHIT. BULLSHIT. BULLSHIT. i'm so fucking tired of this tired myth of whites being victimized by blacks at a disproportionate rate. if you're ANY race in certain parts of this country, you're food. it has NOTHING to do with being white. ask the countless blacks who LIVE in those areas about what they deal with on a daily basis. it borders on racism in its reductive treatment of the BLACK victims of the very same predators that target white people that end up in the "ghetto."

    it's a FACT that there is a HUGE misconception -- fueled largely by the media -- about black crime that has warped how white america treats the black population. a VERY SMALL contingent in the black community commits crime at a rate (largely due to the revolving rather than rehabilitative nature of our "justice" system) that has unfairly maligned how the vast majority of black america is perceived. as a result, blacks and whites are trapped in this cycle of self-fulfilled expectations that govern how they co-exist in this country.

    zimmerman is a symptom.



    The common aspect/angle is still the same - & you're correct about the media. FYI if the various media sources would be more truthful about what's REALLY going on,MAYBE there wouldn't be this deception about black people in general. I just don't understand how identifying the suspects ethnicity isn't necessary in solving said crimes - you want fair and balanced treatment but you don't want the truth to be told - e.g., if said white man robbed you or said black man did the same then tell it like it is & quit playing this game about stating the real facts.

    Finally, NOW to bolded area above - are you actually telling me and believing that white people CANNOT be victims/victimized by black predators...& some black thugs will prey on white people in this country....BULL SHIT AND BULL SHIT again. IMO most people white who fall victim to black predators are usually so naive and trustworthy even THEY are fearful to be forthright about who attacked them - something is really fucked-up in this country when that scenario goes down.
    Seriously whomever has instilled this type of fear of not being politically correct in the masses of non-black folks has really done an injustice to all parties concerned.

    i'm arguing that the crime you're referencing had very little to do with them being white. black people are getting robbed and murdered by the same people. it's a minority -- a very small one -- that has allowed whites to frame all blacks as "thugs." the whites just stand out, obviously, since they're a white victim in a predominantly "black" area.

    it's those damned statistics. if people would rationally and critically examine them, they'd see that blacks are not causing this "epidemic" of crime that some people would accuse them of doing. relative to the the population, a fraction of the community is involved in the crime you speak of. adding to that, there is no real evidence that whites are targeted at a higher rate. looking at the two groups and their relative sizes, it stands to reason that black on white crime would elicit the most attention -- which leads to a skewed world view that sees people like ME and other black men labeled suspects when he haven't done anything.

    there is no empirical evidence to justify the fear whites have of blacks.
    Noir
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  • the world needs to get together and get rid of this "white people" problem
  • heyslickheyslick Posts: 1,179
    the world needs to get together and get rid of this "white people" problem



    You should get T-shirts and bumper stickers made-up with those sentiments. BTW us white people get it & we AREN'T going AWAY - so do what you gotta do.

    redhandedbandittruth_juice
  • ...the thing I cant understand is Tupac's bail was set at $1.4 million for being convicted of sex abuse....Zimmerman's bail was only $150,000 and he is being charged with murder...WTF???...
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