The Official Dark Knight Rises Thread

focus · May 2012

dontdiedontkillanyon wrote: »

If the build up/marketing of Inception taught us anything it would be never to assume you know a Christopher Nolan film purely on a trailer. Trailers for Nolan's films if anything are deceptive purely because of how cerebral the actual films are and not just a visual spectacle. No trailer for Inception prepared you for the final cut of the film, the same will probably be said for this as well.

focus wrote: »

Niggas really need to get over the Catwoman shit. Does nobody remember The uproar over Health Ledger as Joker? Have some faith. If not, have some history. We been through this already. The same niggas complaining about Joker probably the same niggas mad about Anne Hathaway. Aint you tired of eating ya words? Heath Joker as Joker is probably the biggest "bad casting" upset in movie cinema history.

Just shows you that people still don't learn. I personally think Hathaway's a good actress. Last film I saw her in was Love and Other Drugs and I thought she was great in that, plus Rachel Getting Married proved the girl can definitely act if anyone was still unconvinced. She's far too much of an enigma to write her off (which is surely what is required for a role like Selina Kyle) plus the sheer diversity of the films she's been in: going from the more goofy and fun roles to more serious and adult ones. They auditioned a shit load of actresses for Catwoman including screen tests with Christian Bale, she was chosen. I'm sure the film makers know more about film casting than some people with internet access trying to second guess a film that hasn't been released yet.

Co-sign...and yea, she killed it in Rachel Getting Married.

Truth Writer · May 2012

Blockbuster's starting off nice. First the Avenger, the AMS, then DKR....with Expenditables 2 somewhere in there.

2012 will be kind to action movies. Took long enough.

rapmastermind · May 2012

Michelle Phiffer has the Catwoman Crown so Anne has some big shoes to fill. She killed it in "Batman Returns", sexy but deadly at the same time. Her costume was better also:

focus · May 2012

I agree that Michele Phiffer has the Catwoman crown right now...looks and personality wise. But Nolan seems to be going for a more vintage approach on purpose, which is kind of a nice switch up from the character's last two big screen appearances. I dunno why, but I trust his filmaking.

vageneral08 · May 2012

Truth Writer wrote: »

Blockbuster's starting off nice. First the Avenger, the AMS, then DKR....with Expenditables 2 somewhere in there.

2012 will be kind to action movies. Took long enough.

lol why do you keep mispelling the movie title?

rapmastermind · May 2012

focus wrote: »

I agree that Michele Phiffer has the Catwoman crown right now...looks and personality wise. But Nolan seems to be going for a more vintage approach on purpose, which is kind of a nice switch up from the character's last two big screen appearances. I dunno why, but I trust his filmaking.

True, I caught that and Heath was able to at the very least match Jack when many thought it was impossible so maybe she surprises. But Michelle just killed it, brought so much personality and character to the role:

stoneface · May 2012

Everyone knows about people initially opposing Heath Ledger being cast as the Joker in TDK but you can take it back even further to the 89 Batman film. People were protesting against Michael Keaton being cast as Bruce Wayne/Batman and he ended up being the best in that role thus far. Anyone with doubts about the casting in TDKR needs to just wait to see the damn movie before judging. Simple as that.

focus · May 2012

stoneface wrote: »

Everyone knows about people initially opposing Heath Ledger being cast as the Joker in TDK but you can take it back even further to the 89 Batman film. People were protesting against Michael Keaton being cast as Bruce Wayne/Batman and he ended up being the best in that role thus far. Anyone with doubts about the casting in TDKR needs to just wait to see the damn movie before judging. Simple as that.

Yep. I wasn't gonna take it there, but its not like Christian Bale is the best Batman/Bruce Wayne himself. Keaton still has that crown also....and yet, The Dark Knight is still GOAT Batman movies...but Batman Returns >>> Batman Begins.

In fact, with all this Avengers, Blade, Spidey 2, Iron Man, First Class talk...niggas forgetting about Batman Returns. Its up there with the greats. The first Ninja Turtles movie too.

MAKAVELI25 · May 2012

rapmastermind wrote: »

focus wrote: »

I agree that Michele Phiffer has the Catwoman crown right now...looks and personality wise. But Nolan seems to be going for a more vintage approach on purpose, which is kind of a nice switch up from the character's last two big screen appearances. I dunno why, but I trust his filmaking.

True, I caught that and Heath was able to at the very least match Jack when many thought it was impossible so maybe she surprises. But Michelle just killed it, brought so much personality and character to the role:

Heath's Joker SHITS ALL OVER Jack Nicholson's Joker, and not just cuz its the most recent one. Michael Keaton's 1989 performance in Batman is still comparable to Bale's 2008 TDK performance. Jack's peformance didn't really age that well at all.

focus · May 2012

MAKAVELI25 wrote: »

Heath's Joker SHITS ALL OVER Jack Nicholson's Joker, and not just cuz its the most recent one. Michael Keaton's 1989 performance in Batman is still comparable to Bale's 2008 TDK performance. Jack's peformance didn't really age that well at all.

I agree.

And yet Heath still doesn't have the best portrayal of Joker. That distinction goes to Mark Hamill and The Animated Series and The DC Animated movies. Yea, I know...apples and oranges....live action vs. animation...but i'm just saying. That is still the best incarnation of Joker....besides the comics themselves.

I wonder what a young Mark Hamill in Heath's makeup with Nolan's direction couldve done.

vageneral08 · May 2012

focus wrote: »

stoneface wrote: »

Everyone knows about people initially opposing Heath Ledger being cast as the Joker in TDK but you can take it back even further to the 89 Batman film. People were protesting against Michael Keaton being cast as Bruce Wayne/Batman and he ended up being the best in that role thus far. Anyone with doubts about the casting in TDKR needs to just wait to see the damn movie before judging. Simple as that.

Yep. I wasn't gonna take it there, but its not like Christian Bale is the best Batman/Bruce Wayne himself. Keaton still has that crown also....and yet, The Dark Knight is still GOAT Batman movies...but Batman Returns >>> Batman Begins.

In fact, with all this Avengers, Blade, Spidey 2, Iron Man, First Class talk...niggas forgetting about Batman Returns. Its up there with the greats. The first Ninja Turtles movie too.

I'ma put it like this....keaton is the better batman but bale is the better bruce wayne

CracceR · May 2012

cosigned this ^

rapmastermind · May 2012

MAKAVELI25 wrote: »

Heath's Joker SHITS ALL OVER Jack Nicholson's Joker, and not just cuz its the most recent one. Michael Keaton's 1989 performance in Batman is still comparable to Bale's 2008 TDK performance. Jack's peformance didn't really age that well at all.

Debatable. Jack's Joker was so legendary nobody touched the role for damn near 20 years. Also Keaton's Batman is still the best, most fans agree. Phiffer also again still has the Catwoman Crown. Burton 2 Batman films set the bar 1st and are Legendary. The Creator of Batman himself said Jack's Joker was the closest to his original vision. Heath's Joker was great but LOL @ Shitting over a performance nobody could even dare touch for 2 decades. Before TDK Heath was doing mad interviews talking about Jack and how Legendary his performance is, stop trying to downplay one of the greatest actors in the history of cinema. LOL @ "hasn't aged well", the movie is a Classic. Also, Jack's 1-liners > Heath's.

rapmastermind · May 2012

vageneral08 wrote: »

I'ma put it like this....keaton is the better batman but bale is the better bruce wayne

Yes Bale is a really good Wayne but Keaton played the DUEL Personalities the best. Bale's batman voice is was not good, even if Nolan changed it in post-production, it wasn't good. Keaton did both very well which is why He has the crown.

I'd Rate them:

1a The Dark Knight
1b Batman
*Depending on the era you grew up in one is above the other

2. Batman Returns
3. Batman Begins
4. Forever
5. Batman and Robin

I also agree that Mark Hamil Joker is up there with Jack and Heath even though it was animated.

vageneral08 · May 2012

rapmastermind wrote: »

vageneral08 wrote: »

I'ma put it like this....keaton is the better batman but bale is the better bruce wayne

Yes Bale is a really good Wayne but Keaton played the DUEL Personalities the best. Bale's batman voice is was not good, even if Nolan changed it in post-production, it wasn't good. Keaton did both very well which is why He has the crown.

Right that's why I give the edge to bale on being a slightly better bruce wayne....I hate his voice as batman shit is horrible

earth two superman · May 2012

the thing about Bale's voice is that hes trying to replicate Kevin Conroys batman/bruce wayne from Batman TAS. Conroy made it sound so natural. With bale its really forced.

stoneface · May 2012

I dont give a fuck what no one says, at the end of the day Jack's Joker > Heath's joker, as great as Heath was.

vageneral08 wrote: »

I'ma put it like this....keaton is the better batman but bale is the better bruce wayne

Disagree to the fullest. Bale was good as Bruce Wayne but not better than Keaton. The way Keaton portrayed him was perfect. Even though he seemed cool and never really openly expressed his personal issues to anyone, you could still somehow tell, just from his demeanor that he was troubled and tortured but just kept it all internal. It was subtle, he didnt even have to say shit. I just think Keaton's performance as Bruce was more skillful than Bale's.

dalyricalbandit · May 2012

reason folks aint like Keaton as Bruce back then was supposedly because folks aint think he was handsome enough N/H

IceBergTaylor · May 2012

I think Heath's Joker was the better of the two personally

allied · May 2012

MAKAVELI25 wrote: »

rapmastermind wrote: »

focus wrote: »

Heath's Joker SHITS ALL OVER Jack Nicholson's Joker, and not just cuz its the most recent one. Michael Keaton's 1989 performance in Batman is still comparable to Bale's 2008 TDK performance. Jack's peformance didn't really age that well at all.

Spoken like someone who just likes what's fresh. Heath's Joker and Jack's Joker are completely different. Jack's set the bar and Heath took the character in a different direction but maxed it out. I for one like Jack's Joker better to me he came off more like a clown and not like a sociapath. But Heath definitely shut me up as soon as I saw the TDK trailer. As for Batman, I reserve judgement but Bale has not convinced me he is taking the character to the next level.

stoneface · May 2012

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young chad · May 2012

I am REALLY not buying this Blake character by JGL....I think by the end of the film he takes over as Gotham's hero...the only thing that even makes me hesitate on that is the fact that it's Nolan and that seems to "obvious" for a Nolan film but seriously....JGL REALLY looks like Robin/Dick Grayson to me and that symbol the kid drew with the chalk looked more like Nightwing than Batman's (I know he was drawing Batman's symbol but it looked like a nod to the Nightwing character)

focus · May 2012

young chad wrote: »

I am REALLY not buying this Blake character by JGL....I think by the end of the film he takes over as Gotham's hero...the only thing that even makes me hesitate on that is the fact that it's Nolan and that seems to "obvious" for a Nolan film but seriously....JGL REALLY looks like Robin/Dick Grayson to me and that symbol the kid drew with the chalk looked more like Nightwing than Batman's (I know he was drawing Batman's symbol but it looked like a nod to the Nightwing character)

New Dark Knight Character Revealed?
Toy images reveal possible spoilers.
by Scott Collura MAY 23, 2012

You don't want to be spoiled on The Dark Knight Rises? Then why are you here right now?

It's time for some serious fanboy nerdiness, as we speculate on what could be a new character or story reveal from The Dark Knight Rises. A couple of them, actually. Or they could be a whole bunch of nothing, as this is all based on a photo of some toys from the film.

io9 has happened upon the image, from Mattel's Quick Tek line of action figures, which shows a mysterious figure in a costume we've not seen before in the promotional materials for TDKR. Look:

The site speculates, and we concur, that this is probably one of three characters: Bruce Wayne in League of Shadows garb, the young Ra's Al Ghul (who is expected to appear in a flashback), or Joseph Gordon-Levitt's character after his presumed transformation from cop to… something else.

Which leads to even crazier speculation, which is almost surely wrong but must be said anyway. Look at the second bat suit in this image:

Batman Beyond, anyone? Could it be that Joseph Gordon-Levitt's John Blake takes on the mantle of the Bat eventually, replacing Bruce Wayne? And when he does, he adopts a new costume not unlike Terry McGinnis' future Batman from the cartoon? It's a reach, sure, especially considering director Christopher Nolan's tendency to avoid fanboyisms. This is probably just a toy variation on the bat costume that doesn’t even appear in the movie. Probably…

CeLLaR-DooR · May 2012

I find it hard to believe that Blake will be the next Batman...or Robin...Given that Batman had to go through a7-8 years of trainin' before becomin' the Bat...I doubt Blake will be any more than a cop who happens to kno' Catwoman (who, if I've read correctly, is an accomplice of Bane's)

focus · May 2012

CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »

I find it hard to believe that Blake will be the next Batman...or Robin...Given that Batman had to go through a7-8 years of trainin' before becomin' the Bat...I doubt Blake will be any more than a cop who happens to kno' Catwoman (who, if I've read correctly, is an accomplice of Bane's)

The Dark Knight Rises takes place 8 years after The Dark Knight...just saying.

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