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shit you can take three fighters out of one weight class alone
basically, white ppl dont like mike tyson. thats the real reason for his racism ... i mean ... opinion lol
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0 · 1Wack Feelings Nosign 1Cosign Ether GOAT LOL ·...since when do White people dislike Tyson? There are too many smart/dumb niggas commenting on this science and after I schooled you in that last boxing thread, I thought you would learn something and study yo art. But no, here you are, looking ignorant as usual when it comes to boxing. Stick to posting ass cheek pics, nigga.
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2 · Wack Feelings Nosign 1Cosign 1Ether GOAT LOL ·lennox lewis and evander are "great" because they beat tyson. but if tyson isnt good how are they great for beating him??
white ppl take certain blacks that they dont like and no matter what those blacks can never be great. see floyd mayweather jr, see tyson, see malcom X, see how they say ancient egypt is the "middle east" instead of africa .... the hate goes on and on. and then you got these europeanized negroes who take the same views because they feel uncomfortable around there white masters being associated with these "type" of black ppl
in tysons first year of boxing no man was left standing and no man made it out of the 4th round in a fight with him
in his second year he became the youngest heavywieght champ ever.
lennox lewis and eveander holyfield are both older than tyson. yet niether of them fought him before he went to jail or before he became champ. but tyson was the one ducking them?? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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3 · Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign 1Ether 2GOAT LOL ·...aight cool, thanks, you can shut the fuck up now and stay in Ill Pix.
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-1 · 1Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL ·when lennox lewis faced tyson it wasnt the same tyson niggas watched back in the early 90's.....but when lewis lost to rahman I was like......wtf?
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0 · Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL ·i understand that......in fact when Tyson lost to mcbride.....a reporter asked Mike about his career and his was response was that his career ended in Japan back in 90.....like I said in my post....Don King came in and swept everybody away from Mike...implemented his people and wasn't the same....he went from scientific to headhunter.....it was only a matter a of time before he got dropped.....when I look at Iron Mike and his legacy I see a question mark.....it was obvious to anybody who knew boxing that his skills and technique were outrageous along with his physical ability....and he set the world on fire like nobody had since Ali first shocked the world with the upset over Liston....and we was the youngest champ in history when belts still somewhat mattered....but at the end of the day we always look back at the level of competiton....whether fairly or unfairly....and Tyson's best win is Michael Spinks.....was Spinks a pushover?.....certainly not....but how many heavyweights from the 80s and 90s would you rank above spinks NOT including the usual suspects....thats just what it is and the Tyson apologists need to come to terms with it
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0 · Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL ·Lennox isnt great
Holyfield is great for having beat the best fighters in the 90s. Holyfield is great for being the one and only 4X time heavyweight champion.
Holyfield was great for beating Tyson?????
Way off homie. way off
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1 · Wack Feelings Nosign 1Cosign Ether GOAT LOL ·yeah I agree....and black hoe and a white man.....this had nothing to do with it...
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-1 · 1Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL ·We can all sit here and act like we know what wouldve happened but Sonny Liston might have been a "cab driver" in this era of heavyweights
All a fighter can do is fight who's put in front of him and we'll never know if Tyson beat dudes like he did because they were weaker than fighters of the past or he was just that good
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1 · Wack Feelings Nosign 1Cosign Ether GOAT LOL ·Rather be a white boy then a faggot. Pussy
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-2 · 1Wack Feelings 1Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL ·nigga ain't take the Buster Douglas fight serious and got his ass handed to him
I think if Mike hadve had his head in the fight and prepared like he shouldve that nigga would've snapped Buster necc with a windin hook
Mike is a lot of things, but I think he a real dude that can accept when he doesn't do his best
he claimed Holyfield was headbuttin him and givin him low blows in the first match, he said he kept feelin as if he was goin to blacc out
2nd fight I think Mike couldve pulled out a decision win, maybe even a KO if he hadn't of snapped on Holyfield ass
he always claims that the reason he bit the shit outta Holyfield was cuz the nigga was doin the headbutt/low blow shit all over again and he got tired of it
Lennox was just the better boxer at the time
at the end of the day, Mike was a beast and I personally feel that a lot of the "all time great Heavyweights" wouldve got the beats if they got in the ring wit Mike
Mike would've folded Joe Louis flat footed ass up
Mike would've fucced up Joe Frazier other eye
Mike would've made Muhammed Ali shut the fucc up for the first time
but thats just my opinion
I think the better question would be where would you place Riddick Bowe? lol
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2 · Wack Feelings 1Nosign 2Cosign Ether GOAT LOL ·LOL listen to how mad you are. i ignore niggas like you youre more interested in why i deleted some thread of yours than having a convo about boxing
get the FUCK off my dick you dick head nigga.
this stupid FUCK really is gonna sit here and argue that mike tyson is the fucking ppl's champ in the WHITE community?? LOLOLOLOL damn son you should never be that mad at an internet screen name. you think because they put mike tyson in the movie "the hangover" singing phil collins songs that they love him or some shit???
why dont you just tell me the real reason why you're mad??? you white?? LOLOLOLOLOL
he quoted me twice before i could even answer. dayummmmm you madddddddd!!!! LOLOLOL
this is the maddest i ever had a nigga on this board LOLOLOLOL
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2 · Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign 2Ether GOAT LOL ·got em mad with that trumpet of truth.... LOL
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1 · Wack Feelings Nosign 1Cosign Ether GOAT LOL ·fact is the only thing you could change to make this a reasonable arguement is to have tyson fight evander and lewis either before he got the belts or before he lost to douglas and had he did so and beat them its not like they are ali or liston or early foreman etc anyway
that ali era was the best era in boxing. you cant say that tyson didnt beat the best possible fighters at that time so your arguement is not strong. tyson beat pinklon thomas, larry holmes, micheal moorer twice, razor rudduck, tony tucker, spinks, and more
of the competition wasnt so good back then well how come tyson was the only one rockin niggas to sleep in 90 secs??? explain that
everything that brought tyson down was non boxing shit. no one argues that douglas was a better fighter, no one argues that lewis or evander fought tyson in his prime ... we know they didnt LOL
just say you dont like tyson as a person, dont try to take away his accomplishments LOL
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2 · Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign 2Ether GOAT LOL ·he lost the match before he went to jail...that had more to do with his downfall than going to jail....he admitted after he lost to McBride....and he spent three years in jail ok....Ali had his boxing license stripped for three years....and what happened?....two more world championships....saying Tyson would have been goat because of a groupie and a white man is off....Douglass shattered his aura of invincibility
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0 · Wack Feelings 1Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL ·i already posted that holyfield is older than tyson. we know they were boxing amatuer at the same time. why is it that they never fought until tyson got out of jail???
you mean to tell me holyfield and lewis just could not get a fight with tyson in those three - four years??? or were they just not better than the people tyson fought??? it can only be one or the other. so if in 1989 holyfield was not better than carl the truth williams then how can ppl say that tyson only fought bums???
holyfield resume is wayyyyy weaker than tyson... fighting old ass george foreman etc LOL if holyfield is great tyson is a legend
this is nothing more than watching a young iverson go at micheal jordan on the wizards LOl we know that iverson is no jordan. he only did that because jordan was already past his prime
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0 · Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL ·i read your post but im not directing that at real unbiased sports fans. im just pointing out the facts. racism is not the reason why tyson isnt the greatest fighter ever, because if its not him its another black fighter. im just saying that ppl always discredit our people who accomplish great things because they dont like them personally
if you cant see that then we'll just agree to disagree.... because i know im not the only one who takes my view point
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0 · Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL ·seee here we go again... your saying douglas is the better fighter?? LOL
youre saying that douglass beat tyson straight up but in a previous post you just said all the shit about how don king came in and blah blah blah
tyson beat hisself by his non boxing decisions, you even acknowledged it. douglass did not "beat" tyson in the way that Ali BEAT Foreman
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0 · Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL ·point out where I said Douglass was the better fighter?.....I'll wait....my point (which you missed).....was once he hit the canvass his aura of invincibility was shattered....regardless of all turmoil surrounding him.....folks wanna make excuses for Tyson's downfall but don't wanna admit he was not mentally strong enough to make a comeback.....oh and for the record....Tyson and Holyfield were supposed to fight before Tyson went to jail in 91
Tyson-Holyfield, ‘91
The greatest heavyweight fight that never was
By Stafford Attzs
FightBeat.com Contributor
It’s said one never gets over grief… just gets used to it. Perhaps hyperbole, but it’s the perfect description of my feeling about the scuttled 1991 Mike Tyson-Evander Holyfield fight, when Iron Mike went to prison.
It was the most significant boxing match-up -- of any division -- since Ali-Frazier I, “The Fight of the Century”.
The build up:
Tyson, the youngest heavyweight champion in history, cleaned up the division after Muhammad Ali’s the retirement. He was the undisputed bad boy of boxing. He froze opponents with fear, like no other fighter since Sonny Liston.
Who could forget the shocking power of his second-round TKO coronation over Trevor Berbick? One punch sent the defending champion to the canvas three times. Barry Tompkins’ words still ring in my ears, “That’s it, that’s all! We have a new era in boxing!”
And new era it was.
The Legend of Tyson was born. We had a real-life Clubber Laing. There was a new king in town and he ruled with an iron fist.
It was the golden era of heavyweight boxing -- challenger after challenger was decimated. Respected former champs and titlists, like Larry Holmes, Michael Spinks and Pinklon Thomas were flattened for the first time.
Top contenders didn’t know whether it was an honor or a death sentence to face him. One by one, they were annihilated: Biggs, Tubbs, Bruno, Williams. Tyson wasn’t the king of the heavyweights; he was the emperor.
Then came Tokyo. The impossible happened. The dragon was slain. Yet, so forbidding was Tyson’s aura, boxing fans refused to accept it: That wasn’t the real Tyson. He was overconfident and under-trained. It was his failed marriage. The real Mike Tyson could never have lost to Buster Douglas.
Douglas may have had the title, but Tyson was still the champ to the fans. He left no room for doubt, devastating Henry Tillman, Alex Stewart and the once feared Donovan “Razor” Ruddock.
The exiled king returned with all his firepower -- still in his prime, and his kingdom was anxious to receive him.
However, when it was time to re- claim what many felt was rightfully his, there was a new king on the throne, who knew not the power of the Dragon – one who destroyed Tyson’s conqueror with a single blow, one with an Olympic pedigree, a chiseled physique and the heart of a lion, one who was the undefeated, undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World -- a title only synonymous with Tyson. He was called, Evander “The Real Deal” Holyfield.
From the instant the former cruiser titlist leaned back to avoid Douglas’ uppercut -- deftly countering with a picture-perfect right to rip the title away, there was no doubt, he was no paper champion -- no one-hit wonder. He was for real – tough, smart, fast…The Real Deal!
He was the true king, according to the law of the commissions, according to the law of succession and according to pugilistic definition.
An ill-prepared Tyson may have loaned Buster Douglas the belts, but Holyfield was in possession of them, and they looked very comfortable on his broad shoulders. There was the sense; he’d rather die than give back what was rightfully his.
And so, like Ali-Frazier I before it, the lines were drawn: Tyson had no legal claim until he defeated Holyfield. Evander would not be accepted by the fans until he defeated Iron Mike. The stage was set for the most significant clash since 1971.
Then it was cancelled.
I remember thinking, “The fight was too good to be true. It couldn’t happen. Both were champion. How could one win and the other lose?”
It was like the old Greek fable where an inescapable hound was sent to catch an “uncatchable” fox. The God Zeus looked down from Mount Olympus and decided to turn both creatures to stone, for as he said, ‘the paradox was so powerful that it would destroy the very fabric of the universe.’
It was an appropriate parallel: Both men were in their primes. Tyson still had the speed and the menace he had in the mid to late ‘80s, witness his two victories over Donovan Ruddock. He seemed invincible.
Evander was a proud champion who’d demonstrated speed, skill and heart. Most importantly, he didn’t know defeat, and he had the talent to match his desire. Tyson was hungry. It had all the earmarks of a fight for the ages.
The battle would have ebb and flow -- Tyson’s power, speed and ferocity against Evander’s stamina, skills and valor. It would’ve gone the distance…perhaps a split decision.
Holyfield was my pick, and remains so.
Of course, they eventually fought twice. Those battles should have made up for the ‘91 fiasco. But they don’t tell us how the ’91 fight would have gone, nor did they have the same mystique. The landscape was different.
After a few years in prison, Tyson was a completely different animal, physically and psychologically. Holyfield had been defeated, KO’d and ten pounds heavier.
Holyfield surprised the world with his total domination of Tyson. But we’ll never know how a 207-pound Holyfield in ’91 would have fared against a peak Tyson.
For my money, Tyson-Holyfield ‘91 was the best heavyweight fight that never was.
We were robbed of a classic. The “inescapable” hound and the “uncatchable” fox are still frozen in time.
The Sly One has Spoken!!
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0 · Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL ·king fired tyson's corner right after he beat spinks,,, he said he wanted him to have an "all black corner" when in reality he just wanted his people around tyson so he'd have more access to him, and more control.......
had tyson kept the team that produced him through his 20's...his career as good as it was would have likely been much much much better......
shit sucks because its the biggest "woulda/coulda/what if" in boxing history...
my opinion...tyson coulda easily been the greatest heavyweight of all tine if kevin rooney and the rest of his corner were never fired
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