The Official MIAMI HEAT 2011 - 2012 Thread....

Dexter Morgan · May 2012

Steve Nash running the second unit? Nash running a pick and roll with Lebron? Lebron kicking out to a wide open steve nash for 3???

Alpha Outlaw · May 2012

MR.CJ wrote: »

miami gon have 5 all-star players next season

Wade Bosh Lebron rio and nash?

MR.CJ · May 2012

lol @ mario

rage · May 2012

DaBull wrote: »

heat r garbage, NEVER in the history of SPORTS, has a team with 3 of the top 15 players still have a "need" for more all stars

copperkid27 wrote: »

steve nash would def. be an upgrade but damn....yall would get even more hate than now if he did and rightfully so

copperkid27 wrote: »

how many niggas yall need though? yall supposed to have two of the best perimeter players in the league and a premier big man a few sharp shooters and a pf that could be a starter anywhere else in the L coming off the bench yet yall still pursuing other top talent on other teams?

GTFOH....LMAO at the fucking sour puss faggot ass Laker fans!! BWAHAHAHAHHA...I didnt hear all this "How many niggas you need" argument when fucking Horace Grant, Karl Fucking Malone, and Gary Payton were clamouring to play with Shaq. Go worry about that faggot chucker going 7-23.

Allergens · May 2012

Alpha Outlaw wrote: »

NEW YORK — It comes like clockwork, the confrontation that, if you hadn't seen it so often, might have you concerned. You might even think it could escalate, ending with one guy clocking the other. But this is merely the way Mario Chalmers' teammates - most notably LeBron James and Dwyane Wade - communicate with him on the court.

"Tough love," James calls it.

That affection was evident again in Thursday's first half, well before Chalmers - playing his third straight strong playoff game - helped the Heat pull away from New York to take a 3-0 series lead. After a turnover, James appeared to unleash some frustration and fury on the fourth-year point guard.

"People commonly misread LeBron's facial expressions, and his body movements and body language," Erik Spoelstra said. "Sometimes they are very innocuous conversations, but because LeBron is so loud and boisterous, people interpret it the wrong way.

"If you saw that play, LeBron threw it out of bounds, and there is a miscommunication. And by the time they reached half-court they were smiling and high-fiving each other, like 'OK.' "

It is OK, for one reason: Chalmers apparently can handle it. It is one of the seven wonders of the Heat, in the same class as James' closing speed, Wade's body control, Chris Bosh's soft touch and Shane Battier's uncommon intelligence.

"An almost unnatural self-belief and self-confidence in his abilities," Spoelstra said of Chalmers.

Spoelstra wasn't mocking.

He was marveling.

"That's a big part of why he has been able to be successful at the pro level," Spoelstra said. "And so, if people yell at him and try to correct him, it doesn't bother him, it doesn't faze him at all. Big moments, opponents, players with great reputations, that doesn't faze him at all."

And it can't, because it never stops. Asked if he had ever played with someone with thicker skin, Wade mentioned former Marquette backcourt mate Travis Diener.

"But Mario, we give it to him," Wade said. "I look at him sometimes, and I give him a hug. We give it to him."

Wade insists that comes from recognizing Chalmers' importance. Chalmers shot well and played steadily prior to the All-Star break, and the Heat was dominant. Chalmers slipped in several areas after the break, and the Heat was closer to ordinary.

"But he takes a lot," Wade said. "He takes it from his head coach, he takes it from me, he takes it from 'Bron, he takes it from everyone else.

"You've got to be tough. That's the one thing we know about him, at the end of the day, no matter what, we know that he's tough. We know he's a big-game player, and he's going to be there when we need him, but it's the little things in between we're trying to work on."

Chalmers claims that he now is more comfortable giving a little back.

"He does a little bit now," Wade said. "You know what? Has our respect."

Chalmers has had private talks with the two stars, and come to understand their intentions. He knows that James "looks at me like a little brother.

"Some of the times, the way he talks to me, people might take it like he's talking to me offensively or disrespectful, but we have that type of understanding. If I say something to him, he can say something to me. As much as he says to me, he takes as much of it back."

Really?

"Nope, nope," James said, smiling. "I'm his big brother and I can say whatever I want to him, and he has to take it."

James recognized early in his Heat tenure that he could mold Chalmers, who is less than two years younger, the way he tried to guide Daniel Gibson in Cleveland.

"Certain guys you can talk to in ways you can't talk to others," James said. "My relationship with 'Rio is different than anybody else's."

James acknowledged that Chalmers didn't understand at the start, but believes he does now.

"The best thing about him is he takes constructive criticism," James said. "And you know, when I get on him, it's not because I'm trying to down him. It's because I think he's really good, and I don't like him making mistakes. I make mistakes as well, but I love when he plays at a high level."

http://www.palmbeach...-1-2340640.html

some where LA mo williams is hiring someone to kill Chalmers

DaBull · May 2012

rage wrote: »

DaBull wrote: »

heat r garbage, NEVER in the history of SPORTS, has a team with 3 of the top 15 players still have a "need" for more all stars

copperkid27 wrote: »

steve nash would def. be an upgrade but damn....yall would get even more hate than now if he did and rightfully so

copperkid27 wrote: »

how many niggas yall need though? yall supposed to have two of the best perimeter players in the league and a premier big man a few sharp shooters and a pf that could be a starter anywhere else in the L coming off the bench yet yall still pursuing other top talent on other teams?

GTFOH....LMAO at the fucking sour puss faggot ass Laker fans!! BWAHAHAHAHHA...I didnt hear all this "How many niggas you need" argument when fucking Horace Grant, Karl Fucking Malone, and Gary Payton were clamouring to play with Shaq. Go worry about that faggot chucker going 7-23.

heat aint gettin a ring this year!!!!!! fact

usmarin3 · May 2012

Heat need to get rid of Mike Millers contract next year, i like MM but dude is too injury prone and inconsistent. Give Nash that 5 mil mid level exception and i'm sure Riley will get rid of Curry and Howard to clear up salary space.

rage · May 2012

usmarin3 wrote: »

Heat need to get rid of Mike Millers contract next year, i like MM but dude is too injury prone and inconsistent. Give Nash that 5 mil mid level exception and i'm sure Riley will get rid of Curry and Howard to clear up salary space.

I like this a lot, with Nash you get a PG that wants to do nothing but find you the perfect shot or alley....with Bron and Wade on the court...this would be almost criminal. Also Nash's shooting negates any loss from Miller. Make it happen Pat.

infamous114 · May 2012

Juwan Howard is retiring either way at the end of the season, I bet. Especially if we end up winning in June

infamous114 · May 2012

and this is the Pacers team we should be worried about in the semifinals...pfft

Chi-Town Bully · May 2012

infamous114 wrote: »

and this is the Pacers team we should be worried about in the semifinals...pfft

Y'all dont have nothing to worry about in the East

MR.CJ · May 2012

Indiana in 6

Inglewood_B · May 2012

i actually wouldnt mind steve nash going to miami to chase a ring. id be dissappointed in ray allen tho

DaBull · May 2012

Nash lack of defense would mess up the heat schemes.

infamous114 · May 2012

Yo it never fails... the NBA thread fucks up every couple weeks lol

Inglewood_B · May 2012

infamous114 wrote: »

Yo it never fails... the NBA thread fucks up every couple weeks lol

kuz we be spammin the hell out that thread. time to make 3.0...

infamous114 · May 2012

infamous114 · May 2012

Melo is scoring 17.4 points per 36 minutes when Battier isn't on the floor, 31 points when Battier is on the floor. Spo should have put Lebron on him in the 4th. As for the last play, Wade simply fucked it up. Lebron should have been involved whether handling it or shooting it.

usmarin3 · May 2012

For the life of me why won't Spo play James Jones, it can't be because Mike Miller is better defensively because he stays getting cooked. Heat needs to give that man more burn, no way he is missing the wide open threes Battier and Miller is missing.

infamous114 · May 2012

Yea yo our bench was fucking garbage tonight...

IceBergTaylor · May 2012

Idk why James Jones isnt gettin any burn either. Spo is making some suspect moves. I'm not even gonna get into it about leavin Battier on Melo

dalyricalbandit · May 2012

put ya brooms away for now

infamous114 · May 2012

Out of all the interviews and speeches Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban gave on his championship tour last year, the sharpest blow came when he said his Mavericks knew they were going to win the NBA Finals when his coaching staff noticed the Miami Heat weren’t making adjustments.

Maybe it was needling, maybe it was simple piling on, perhaps it was retribution after there was a belief that Pat Riley had outdueled the Mavs’ Avery Johnson back in the 2006. But it was a direct shot at Heat coach Erik Spoelstra and his performance under pressure.

Spoelstra’s overall record is strong and league executives see him as having a long career as a head coach whether it’s in Miami or elsewhere. But Cuban’s comments were also a sign that Spoelstra hasn’t earned complete respect yet. Some of his decisions on Sunday in the Heat’s Game 4 loss to the New York Knicks that extended the series will not help.

In an odd maneuver he declined to fully explain, Spoelstra went away from the strategy that had been working and given his team the overwhelming advantage. And it very likely cost the Heat a chance to win the series in the minimum.

The Heat lost because they allowed Carmelo Anthony to score 41 points on just 29 shots. Instead of making him the volume scorer they did for the rest of the series, Anthony was able to get the ball where he wanted it, let him get to the line 14 times, and let him get on an offensive roll.

In other words, the only thing that could beat the Heat happened.

Anthony did the bulk of it against Shane Battier, including for the entire fourth quarter. For the first three games of the series, and even for the last game of the regular season between the teams on April 15 that served as a playoff warmup, Spoelstra went with James on Anthony for the stretch run.

Yet this time Battier was left on him as Anthony took the green light to attack him and shoot over him while James guarded Chandler. Anthony scored 12 points on 4-of-7 shooting in the fourth, picking apart the Heat’s sudden change of heart.

Anthony is one of the best scorers in the league. Perhaps he would’ve made tough shots over James. Perhaps he was due to break out of a slump; he was shooting just 34 percent over the first three games. Perhaps this is just second-guessing.

But the last three fourth quarters Anthony has played where James has taken over -- not including Game 1 when the starters were benched with the game out of hand -- Anthony averaged seven points on 42 percent shooting. Had that happened again Sunday, the Heat would be celebrating a sweep.

At one point, the Heat called for a double team on Anthony, something that usually isn’t required when James was on him, and it created a rotation that led to an open Mike Bibby hitting a 3-pointer.

“LeBron was guarding Chandler to create some other things to do defensively but we still had enough opportunities to win this game regardless of who was guarding Anthony,” Spoelstra said. “You have to give them credit and move on.”

The numbers, which Spoelstra is a devotee of, crush him here. In the series, Anthony has shot 12-of-41 (29 percent) with James guarding him and scored 31 points including free throws. With Battier on Anthony, the Knicks star is 20-of-38 (53 percent) and has scored 56 points.

Heading into Game 4, by the way, Anthony was shooting 14-of-26 on Battier (54 percent). These numbers were compiled by ESPN Stats & Info but Spoelstra no doubt had them, too. But it makes the choice all the harder to defend.

Not every game is the same and coaches change up game plans all the time. Some of Spoelstra’s constant changing is because his bench has shown him little consistency. Not using his best defender on the Knicks’ best scorer when it had a flawless record is hard to justify.

But it does seem like Spoelstra might have outsmarted himself on Sunday by making changes that were hard to understand or defend. And there’s a chance that it cost the Heat a winnable game.

MR.CJ · May 2012

miami will struggle with indiana

infamous114 · May 2012

MR.CJ wrote: »

miami will struggle with indiana

Eh, maybe if this wasn't your gimmick, I'd take your opinion seriously

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