usher has always been the type of artist that you could depend on to come out with
real r&b music.yes,he is does intricate pop into his music but he does remember
the importance of what to do to keep the sound of real r&b into his music.he has
left his mark of his brilliance and talent and he has brought that into the fore front
to bring us the best music that he has ever made.i respect and appreciate every single
bit of his contributions that he has made in r&b.but lately his music has been less than
stellar and he's really living short to what he really stands for as an r&b artist.
what he wants to do is create a new sound with what he calls "revolutionary pop"
and,to him,he thinks this is a new sound that he discovered but,in all actuality this
"revolutionary pop"sound is nothing more than techno music.its nothing more than
what justin bieber is doing with his music or draft punk or jason derulo or chris brown
with his.he doesn't seem to understand that he is not a techno music artist and, he
does not have to turn to techno music to sell.he has the voice and the vision to pull
a classic,authentic r&b album but, what he is doing now is bullshit.now,he has a brand
new album coming out this summer and,if this album turns out to be a techno album,
mark all my words when i say he will lose alot of his respect from people that know his
music for what it really is.mark my words that he will lose his prestige as an r&b artist.
he too established for an artist to be making music that caters to the 13-18 yr old
teenage market he does not need to do that.why? im no hater or nothing but somthing
is telling me this new usher album is going to be the first flop of his career.i wish him
the best.
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Since when? He's been overrated forever.
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1 • Wack Feelings 3Nosign 1Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Since when? He's been overrated forever.[/quote]
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no other r&b artist that i know of has been able drop 3 classic albums back to back
like that.u call it overrated.i call it pulling off the impossible
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no other r&b artist that i know of has been able drop 3 classic albums back to back
like that.u call it overrated.i call it pulling off the impossible [/quote]
R.Kelly would probably disagree.
Also, none of those are "classic" in my opinion. I think they all had some good songs but i dont ever remember being able to listen to any Usher CDs from start to finish without skipping a few tracks.
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no other r&b artist that i know of has been able drop 3 classic albums back to back
like that.u call it overrated.i call it pulling off the impossible [/quote]
yea imma need you to brush up on ya music then cause i mean theirs other that drop classics back to back like musiq dropped four classics back to back
Aijuswanaseing
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Soulstar
Luvanmusiq
just saying and a sidenote sales dont = classics i mean Usher had mad fillers on 8701 if i remember correctly lol
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3 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether 3GOAT LOL •Usher has had the number 1 R&B song in the country for a couple of weeks now on Billboard. I don't understand the thread.
Music evolves, artist need to as well to grow and remain relevant. Good music is good music and R&B is not the only "good" music...get over it.
I'm glad nobody ever told Michael Jackson to keep making "Off The Wall" over and over again...
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5 • Wack Feelings Nosign 5Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •This can be said of every new generation of "R&B". I guarantee you that the generation before yours feels it was lost when your generation of R&B came around. And the generation before that. And the generation before that. And the generation of people now will say the same of the next generation. Get.Over.Yourselves.Already.
Who are these "youngins"? When exactly did this "classic form" begin and end and says who? Who possesses this ultimate authority?
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0 • Wack Feelings 1Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Singers trained in the black church or in a choir. All of the great singers of the past exercised their vocal ability in the church or in a choir. Whitney Houston, Michael Jackson, Boyz II Men. You think that Trey Songz can have the vocal range of those guys? The R & B is all about the club nowadays.
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4 • Wack Feelings Nosign 4Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Who are these "youngins"? When exactly did this "classic form" begin and end and says who? Who possesses this ultimate authority?
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1 • Wack Feelings Nosign 1Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •yea imma need you to brush up on ya music then cause i mean theirs other that drop classics back to back like musiq dropped four classics back to back
Aijuswanaseing
Juslisen
Soulstar
Luvanmusiq
just saying and a sidenote sales dont = classics i mean Usher had mad fillers on 8701 if i remember correctly lol [/quote]
uuuhhh no disrespect to u or to musiq soulchild but i dont remember anybody rating soulstar or luvanmusiq
a classic but if they are where are the record sales cuz the last time i checked luvanmusiq was at 700k and
and soulstar sold less than that.how about those billbord positions cuz the last time i checked soulstar wasnt
in the top 10 on the album charts.now as far as the sales dont equal classics i agree but on the business side of the
music if u aint bringing in the money then u lose and then u get dropped.ive got all of musiq's albums
and even though he does have great music but lets talk real talk,musiq has great pen game usher has a great
voice he's just not using it in the right way.
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no other r&b artist that i know of has been able drop 3 classic albums back to back
like that.u call it overrated.i call it pulling off the impossible [/quote]
R.Kelly would probably disagree.
Also, none of those are "classic" in my opinion. I think they all had some good songs but i dont ever remember being able to listen to any Usher CDs from start to finish without skipping a few tracks.[/quote]
u right im sorry.i just couldnt see past all r.kelly's whack shit over the past 10 years.
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •That was Jermaine Dupri...hell the entire story of Confessions is actually about Jermaine Dupri....JD has been behind most of Usher's biggest hits
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Usher is still a legend I.M.O, but come on, in this day and age, he /R&B is not what is dominating the charts'.
The last ''big'' commercial tune, which I felt they ''blew up'' from Usher, was ''O.M.G'' ft Will.I.Am
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i didnt like Here I stand at first...i thought he was being a sucka b/c he was married...it wasnt until i got married last year that i found a new appreciation for his message on that album...but i cant get jiggy with the new shit..
i rocks with "the dream" though...he might not be a traditional singer, but whatever it is that you wanna call it, he does that well...
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Again, could be said of any era. When Whitney Houston came out she was considered souless and too pop compared to the soul/R&B music that preceded her. Previous generations before Whitney don't fuck with her like that.
And R. Kelly? Really. That's 90's R&B at its finest, but you crazy if you think ANY previous generation fucks with R.Kelly. Especially the Hip-Hoppin R. Kelly of much of his career.
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0 • Wack Feelings 1Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Yea but faggass chris brown can sing for real too and and the end of the day relevancy is what counts Usher got a sec. chance after that
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •uuuhhh no disrespect to u or to musiq soulchild but i dont remember anybody rating soulstar or luvanmusiq
a classic but if they are where are the record sales cuz the last time i checked luvanmusiq was at 700k and
and soulstar sold less than that.how about those billbord positions cuz the last time i checked soulstar wasnt
in the top 10 on the album charts.now as far as the sales dont equal classics i agree but on the business side of the
music if u aint bringing in the money then u lose and then u get dropped.ive got all of musiq's albums
and even though he does have great music but lets talk real talk,musiq has great pen game usher has a great
voice he's just not using it in the right way.
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i feel where you coming from on that one but musiq never been dropped if anything the label keeps rolling with him and as far as usher is concerned hes in a good lane if he wants to keep his head above water to where the music biz has headed you feel me lets just hope the next album is balanced thats all you can hope for cause this euro pop is here to stay even tho the US is just playing catch up with the rest of the world where this music been selling for a while now
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Beyonce put out a r and b album, lowest selling album of her career
Melanie Fiona put out a r and b album, didn't sell shit.
Keisha Cole put out a r and b album, didn't sell shit
Jazmine Sullivan put out a r and b album, didn't sell shit.
Mary J put out a r and b album, didn't sell shit
A Keyes put out a r and b album, didn't sell shit
Trey Songz don't really sell shit
Omarion last album was actually good, didn't sell shit
People keep crying make r and b music but stay not buying albums. The money and sales are in pop/europop right now, these artist are going to go where the money is until r and b fans start buying r and b music. At the end of the day it's the fans who supply the demand, the labels just follow the trend.
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