Is Rap at an All Time Low?

Soloman the Wise · May 2012

Damn I have to agree with most of your initial post other then the Fucking IC chicks or hanging out in the Jackass section of the site. Music has been disappointing as of late even the good shit is just not up to par, we are at that awkward period like the early 80s was for rock music...

usmarin3 · May 2012

Said it before and say it again, mixtapes are the worst fucking thing to happen to hiphop. The music has no value anymore, especially when mixtapes are better than albums. Albums use to be an event (still is for some rappers ie..Em, Jay, Ye, Nas, Outkast,etc), now no one gives two fucking shits. These rappers have oversaturated the game so much with free shit, they don't realize they shorted the shelf life of their music. You have to hold on to some mystique in hiphop imo.

Soloman the Wise · May 2012

usmarin3 wrote: »

Said it before and say it again, mixtapes are the worst fucking thing to happen to hiphop. The music has no value anymore, especially when mixtapes are better than albums. Albums use to be an event (still is for some rappers ie..Em, Jay, Ye, Nas, Outkast,etc), now no one gives two fucking shits. These rappers have oversaturated the game so much with free shit, they don't realize they shorted the shelf life of their music. You have to hold on to some mystique in hiphop imo.

I agree in part in regards to over saturation Mixtapes have their role though they just no longert are truly mixtapes now they are just free albums. Mixtapes need to go back to compilations albums featuring a bunch of different rappers and remixes...

dandctt · May 2012

Hip-hop is as soft as ever in my opinion. Most new artists are very bland and non-appealing as well.

It doesn't feel like its hood inspired anymore either, the music down to the fashion lost touch with the streets. The music is very techno or pop inspired, most hip-hop artist dress like hipsters and skaters, how is that hip-hop? Hip-hop used to have its own feel and style now its just like pop music, it has no more edge.

I hear some of the new stuff some is decent but most is wack. Hip-hop just doesnt feel like hip-hop anymore is hard to describe.

I barely listen to new stuff, all i listen is mostly from 1993-2008 stuff and if i feel the need for new music i just go back and look for stuff from the period i never heard before.

Wild Self · May 2012

SupremeXXV wrote: »

Shit's weak right now...Everybody Gucci & LV'd out, everybody selling bricks, everybody fuck the baddest bitches, everybody smoke the best weed etc...It's like, all these niggas are the same...There's no difference in the crews and the roster's of these "teams" are weak outside of 2/3 niggas.

even the video hoes look the same.

Wild Self · May 2012

dandctt wrote: »

Hip-hop is as soft as ever in my opinion. Most new artists are very bland and non-appealing as well.

It doesn't feel like its hood inspired anymore either, the music down to the fashion lost touch with the streets. The music is very techno or pop inspired, most hip-hop artist dress like hipsters and skaters, how is that hip-hop? Hip-hop used to have its own feel and style now its just like pop music, it has no more edge.

I hear some of the new stuff some is decent but most is wack. Hip-hop just doesnt feel like hip-hop anymore is hard to describe.

I barely listen to new stuff, all i listen is mostly from 1993-2008 stuff and if i feel the need for new music i just go back and look for stuff from the period i never heard before.

The hood element got played out and you see average black kids rocking mohawks and skinny jeans. The world is turned inside out compared to 10 years ago.

usmarin3 wrote: »

Said it before and say it again, mixtapes are the worst fucking thing to happen to hiphop. The music has no value anymore, especially when mixtapes are better than albums. Albums use to be an event (still is for some rappers ie..Em, Jay, Ye, Nas, Outkast,etc), now no one gives two fucking shits. These rappers have oversaturated the game so much with free shit, they don't realize they shorted the shelf life of their music. You have to hold on to some mystique in hiphop imo.

mixtapes today are made for underachieving rappers that have very limited subject matter. If you ask a question to a rapper today where he will be in 5 albums from now, he probably say, "I'm still hustling." The shelf life of music is just crap that you shit out of every day.

w0rd up s0n · May 2012

hip hop is definitely all time low..without a doubt..i don't think it's ever going get to that golden age of the late 80's and 90's to mid 90's era...even early 2000s was hot...still remember that jay-z and nas beef....loved it

Gen. Stasia · May 2012

usmarin3 wrote: »

Said it before and say it again, mixtapes are the worst fucking thing to happen to hiphop. The music has no value anymore, especially when mixtapes are better than albums. Albums use to be an event (still is for some rappers ie..Em, Jay, Ye, Nas, Outkast,etc), now no one gives two fucking shits. These rappers have oversaturated the game so much with free shit, they don't realize they shorted the shelf life of their music. You have to hold on to some mystique in hiphop imo.

Without Mixtapes who will be rapping in 2012?

There will be no Meek Mill, J Cole, Drake, Wiz Khalifa, Kendrick Lamar, Wale, Big Sean, Big Krit, Lil Wayne as we know him, 50 Cent etc

Mixtapes helped but TOO Many mixtapes hurt... Artist put out 1 strong tape and see where it goes from there the only dude to be signed without a Mixtape was ASAP Rocky that i can remember.

P. Town · May 2012

The artist that are hot today are the dudes who you used to walk by when they tried to hand you they demo. The internet has allowed them to take their hustle digital. The days of just being talented are dead. Now it's either work hard or be nothing. And that's how it should be. I don't care how dope you are lyrically, if you can't put a little work ethic with that then you don't deserve to be heard

In Your Moms Room · May 2012

w0rd up s0n wrote: »

hip hop is definitely all time low..without a doubt..i don't think it's ever going get to that golden age of the late 80's and 90's to mid 90's era...even early 2000s was hot...still remember that jay-z and nas beef....loved it

t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088 · May 2012

Gen. Stasia wrote: »

usmarin3 wrote: »

Said it before and say it again, mixtapes are the worst fucking thing to happen to hiphop. The music has no value anymore, especially when mixtapes are better than albums. Albums use to be an event (still is for some rappers ie..Em, Jay, Ye, Nas, Outkast,etc), now no one gives two fucking shits. These rappers have oversaturated the game so much with free shit, they don't realize they shorted the shelf life of their music. You have to hold on to some mystique in hiphop imo.

Without Mixtapes who will be rapping in 2012?

There will be no Meek Mill, J Cole, Drake, Wiz Khalifa, Kendrick Lamar, Wale, Big Sean, Big Krit, Lil Wayne as we know him, 50 Cent etc

Mixtapes helped but TOO Many mixtapes hurt... Artist put out 1 strong tape and see where it goes from there the only dude to be signed without a Mixtape was ASAP Rocky that i can remember.

true story....

In Your Moms Room · May 2012

Idk. I think mixtapes can really help. In Meek, Wayne, and Drake's case. Their mixtapes really helped put them on.

w0rd up s0n · May 2012

ptowndonte wrote: »

The artist that are hot today are the dudes who you used to walk by when they tried to hand you they demo. The internet has allowed them to take their hustle digital. The days of just being talented are dead. Now it's either work hard or be nothing. And that's how it should be. I don't care how dope you are lyrically, if you can't put a little work ethic with that then you don't deserve to be heard

jayz was selling RS from the trunk of his car next to a hot dog stand ..that's how it used to be..

w0rd up s0n · May 2012

In Your Moms Room wrote: »

w0rd up s0n wrote: »

hip hop is definitely all time low..without a doubt..i don't think it's ever going get to that golden age of the late 80's and 90's to mid 90's era...even early 2000s was hot...still remember that jay-z and nas beef....loved it

lame nigga??? Because I'm expressing my opinion??? Lol eff outta here you can sing along with drake and tpain all you want if I think the game is in a weak state than that's my opinion..there's talented dudes out there who get no shine because to the commercial world Its not "hot"

usmarin3 · May 2012

Gen. Stasia wrote: »

usmarin3 wrote: »

Said it before and say it again, mixtapes are the worst fucking thing to happen to hiphop. The music has no value anymore, especially when mixtapes are better than albums. Albums use to be an event (still is for some rappers ie..Em, Jay, Ye, Nas, Outkast,etc), now no one gives two fucking shits. These rappers have oversaturated the game so much with free shit, they don't realize they shorted the shelf life of their music. You have to hold on to some mystique in hiphop imo.

Without Mixtapes who will be rapping in 2012?

There will be no Meek Mill, J Cole, Drake, Wiz Khalifa, Kendrick Lamar, Wale, Big Sean, Big Krit, Lil Wayne as we know him, 50 Cent etc

Mixtapes helped but TOO Many mixtapes hurt... Artist put out 1 strong tape and see where it goes from there the only dude to be signed without a Mixtape was ASAP Rocky that i can remember.

Mixtape is cool if you're a new/unestablished rapper but there is no reason why a establish mc should be putting out mixtapes. Mixtapes are for insecure rappers who don't feel like they can hold on to their fanbase when in between albums, Ye/Jay/Em don't need that shit.

Gen. Stasia · May 2012

usmarin3 wrote: »

Gen. Stasia wrote: »

usmarin3 wrote: »

Said it before and say it again, mixtapes are the worst fucking thing to happen to hiphop. The music has no value anymore, especially when mixtapes are better than albums. Albums use to be an event (still is for some rappers ie..Em, Jay, Ye, Nas, Outkast,etc), now no one gives two fucking shits. These rappers have oversaturated the game so much with free shit, they don't realize they shorted the shelf life of their music. You have to hold on to some mystique in hiphop imo.

Without Mixtapes who will be rapping in 2012?

There will be no Meek Mill, J Cole, Drake, Wiz Khalifa, Kendrick Lamar, Wale, Big Sean, Big Krit, Lil Wayne as we know him, 50 Cent etc

Mixtapes helped but TOO Many mixtapes hurt... Artist put out 1 strong tape and see where it goes from there the only dude to be signed without a Mixtape was ASAP Rocky that i can remember.

Mixtape is cool if you're a new/unestablished rapper but there is no reason why a establish mc should be putting out mixtapes. Mixtapes are for insecure rappers who don't feel like they can hold on to their fanbase when in between albums, Ye/Jay/Em don't need that shit.

I Agree once your on mixtapes shouldnt be needed... Unless your Label isnt really letting you do what u want to do musically. Like Lupe needed to drop that Mixtape before Lasers B.o.B shoulda dropped a mixtape after his whole White Wash. Certain artist should do them some shouldnt. and if u came from the Mixtape Era then it kinda forces ya hand alot of times.

Peezy_Jenkins · May 2012

maybe they dont need to, maybe they want to?

GSonII · May 2012

No, it is not at a all time low. On the other hand, Krit, Cole, Lamar, or none of this new breed that you people blew way out of proportion are going to save, redirect, or enhance the game any.

GSonII · May 2012

32DaysOfInfiniti wrote: »

Rap is a young mans game and these days the youth just arent in touch with anything... Thats why, no substance no good music. Thats the only set back to rap, all image no instrument.

2Chainz 37. Rap is a whose next type game. Always searching and most of the time finding stuff you don't like at the end of the search.

JDSTAYWITIT. · May 2012

H-Rap 180 wrote: »

HipHop is so diverse and so worldly that you can find some Rap that perfectly suits your mood and setting so I can't see anybody complaning about anything except the imbalance of the mainstream.

completely agree ...shit theres damn near a flavor of hiphop for everyone out there ...so i cant see what the complaint is on that level ...people need to just listen to different artist check for different cats and they'll be ok .....but the mainstream imbalance is terrible tho

usmarin3 wrote: »

Said it before and say it again, mixtapes are the worst fucking thing to happen to hiphop. The music has no value anymore, especially when mixtapes are better than albums. Albums use to be an event (still is for some rappers ie..Em, Jay, Ye, Nas, Outkast,etc), now no one gives two fucking shits. These rappers have oversaturated the game so much with free shit, they don't realize they shorted the shelf life of their music. You have to hold on to some mystique in hiphop imo.

chicken or the egg argument .....maybe if rappers didn't make such shitty albums ..people would car more?

SupremeXXV wrote: »

Shit's weak right now...Everybody Gucci & LV'd out, everybody selling bricks, everybody fuck the baddest bitches, everybody smoke the best weed etc...It's like, all these niggas are the same...There's no difference in the crews and the roster's of these "teams" are weak outside of 2/3 niggas.

who the fuck are you listening too?? this is what i dont get with this argument .... i mean if you go to listen to a young jeezy record ..should you really be disappointed to hear him talk about dope? shit thats what he does ... if i turn on a football game im going to be expecting football .. not table tennis .... you feel me ... switch up the people you fuck with

JDSTAYWITIT. · May 2012

DP

InvertedTriangle · June 2012

the longer a genre is around, the easier it is for people to fuck it up. major labels are more willing to sign anyone who can make a buck. some guys are the rap equivalent of britney spears.

but there's ALWAYS sick shit coming out. every year. always will be.

killa-d · June 2012

ye

loch121 · June 2012

icecoldstew wrote: »

High Revolutionary wrote: »

After the 90's and early 2000's the only place to go was down.
But I think a bigger issue is people's inability to accept what the mainstream has become. Me personally I feel if Krit has released two fire mixtapes and one lackluster album he's 2/3 in my book. Remember what David Banner said; mixtapes are albums. Just because it doesn't have a major putting a seal of approval on it doesn't change that fact.

There are CLASSIC albums that were not backed by a major, shits an excuse. Mixtapes are not albums. None of my fav rappers have ever made a "mixtape album".

IDK who your favs are but many of other ppl's favs make mixtapes.kanye had one before Graduation.nas had a mixtape before Untitled.Trap or Die Jeezy.Fab had many mixtapes.Jadakiss,50 cent, wayne, Eminem

genocidecutter · June 2012

If you listen to only mainstream rap you lost

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