Killed Osama
Put the economy on the road to recovery
Kept Israel & the Neo Cons from warmongering us into another endless Mideast conflict
Attempted to improve our health care system (pending)
Came out in support (reluctantly) of gay marriage
Spent less than any President in our lifetime, despite the media deception
here's a chart dummies
Really, his performance was C, but he's had to deal with sabotage from his own party (Blue Dogs, misc. Dems & ex-Presidents), the most impotent Congress & Senate of my lifetime, racism, birthers, an incompetent media, & global economic collapse.
I'm voting for him again, considering the alternative is a return to economic malpractice and military adventurism via Mitt Romney and his team of ex-Bush folks.
I strongly encourage those of you who are socially minded to find a reason to vote for Obama in November even if you have to hold your nose while you do it.
Here's 2 really important ones:
The next President will be able to select at least 1 Supreme Court Justice, if not 2 of them. Supreme Court Justices serve for life and if you've been paying attention to what this Conservative Court has done to our Democracy since the Bush v Gore decision, this should be a huge concern.
Also, the next President will determine our course of action in Iran. Considering that we are still in Afghanistan & Iraq and our military is exhausted from the longest stretch of fighting in US history, this would be the key issue in the election any other year.
- killed several dictators and worldwide terrorists (something his predecessor could not do)
- ended the war & pulled the troops outta Iraq
i have to point out, since you mentioned the predecessor thing, that Obama should not be getting the degree of credit for ending Iraq that you're giving him. this is stuff that Bush II kicked off.
i would give him a B.... really don't care for his stance on afghanistan and i wish he'd taken a stronger stance when it came to healthcare reform.... but he's done ok...
-killed osama, even after bush decided his capture was not a priority
-he signed in the fair sentencing act, which reduced the disparity between the amount of crack cocaine and powder cocaine needed to trigger certain federal criminal penalties ....
-repealed "don't as, don't tell" ...
-signed the lilly ledbetter fair pay restoration act, making progress in a decades-long battle for women to get equal pay for equal work....
-signed the claims resolution act of 2010...
-the economy is moving in the right direction...he oversaw the creation of more jobs in 2010 alone than bush did in eight years
-helped to save the auto industry, when most people wanted the fed to allow GM to fail...which saved millions of jobs. and now GM is again the top car company in the world.
-made it so that banks could no longer use YOUR money to invest in high-risk financial instruments that work against their own customers' interests....
-created a bureau within the Federal Reserve to regulate consumer financial products like mortgages and credit cards
-oversaw expansion of the Pell grants program, to expand opportunity for low income students to go to college
-fought to keep the middle class from having to pay higher taxes ...
really he's accomplished quite a bit. especially considering republicans have obstructed much of his agenda through an unprecedented use of the filibuster
people's expectations were just to high and the country was in so much of a mess that no one noticed or cared to notice what he did accomplish.... i'm voting for him again *shrugs*
- killed several dictators and worldwide terrorists (something his predecessor could not do)
- ended the war & pulled the troops outta Iraq
i have to point out, since you mentioned the predecessor thing, that Obama should not be getting the degree of credit for ending Iraq that you're giving him. this is stuff that Bush II kicked off.
also, wait, what dictators did he kill?
think he's referring to the murder of moammar gadaffi, which one could argue obama had little or a lot to do with... and also the two top al qauda officials that have been killed...
A+ just based on the fact that he pisses off all the white people i wanted him to.
really, i cant say my life has changed for better or worse. gas prices done went up, but so has my salary. i wish he went harder for his healthcare bill, but im on tri-care so im good regardless. he also knocked off bin laden. my daughter will grow up knowing its possible to be president instead of it being that same ol parental pipe dream id always assumed it was, for whatever that's worth.
- killed several dictators and worldwide terrorists (something his predecessor could not do)
- ended the war & pulled the troops outta Iraq
i have to point out, since you mentioned the predecessor thing, that Obama should not be getting the degree of credit for ending Iraq that you're giving him. this is stuff that Bush II kicked off.
also, wait, what dictators did he kill?
Yeah I feel what you sayin but when people look back on it they're gonna give him the credit cuz it happened on his watch. I'm sure baby Bush said he was gonna catch that nigga and they could have but it didn't seem like he was trying LOLOL. Not to mention, when 9/11 went down according to Fahrenheit 9/11 documentary Bush had Osama's family flown out of the U.S. on HIS jets. Bush didn't care about catching that nigga I think he only wanted to use him as a scapegoat.
As for the dictators - Ghaddaffi (even tho it wasn't explicitly stated), the U.S. supplied the rebels with everything they needed to sweep dude and even froze his accounts around the world preventing him from tapping into the billions he had in swiss accounts and other offshore sources. If the Americans/CIA didn't pull that plug homey woulda gone into hiding in Mexico or South America and then re-emerged 10 years later.
think he's referring to the murder of moammar gadaffi, which one could argue obama had little or a lot to do with... and also the two top al qauda officials that have been killed...
Yeah I feel what you sayin but when people look back on it they're gonna give him the credit cuz it happened on his watch. I'm sure baby Bush said he was gonna catch that nigga and they could have but it didn't seem like he was trying LOLOL. Not to mention, when 9/11 went down according to Fahrenheit 9/11 documentary Bush had Osama's family flown out of the U.S. on HIS jets. Bush didn't care about catching that nigga I think he only wanted to use him as a scapegoat.
well, first off, i'm mainly talking about giving Bush credit for the Iraq pull-out in that he's the one that signed off on it (he just wasn't around to implement it). people will give Obama credit, frankly, because the narrative, right or wrong, is that Bush started the war and Obama ended it. but i think we should be accurate.
as for Osama's family, a couple of things:
01. i do not accept "according to Fahrenheit 9/11" as a legitimate argument for ANYTHING, no matter how true. actually, let me restate that as "fuk Michael Moore and anybody that love em";
02. if Osama's family --who are typically not terrorists-- didn't have anything to do with 9/11 or al-Qaeda or what have you, what do you want to do with them? put them in jail?
03. so i can see that we're going to go down a conspiracy route here, which makes me wonder why you'd think one president is at the beck and call of SPECIAL INTERESTS and then the proceeding president is a fighter for truth and freedom and god bless America.
As for the dictators - Ghaddaffi (even tho it wasn't explicitly stated), the U.S. supplied the rebels with everything they needed to sweep dude and even froze his accounts around the world preventing him from tapping into the billions he had in swiss accounts and other offshore sources. If the Americans/CIA didn't pull that plug homey woulda gone into hiding in Mexico or South America and then re-emerged 10 years later.
think he's referring to the murder of moammar gadaffi, which one could argue obama had little or a lot to do with... and also the two top al qauda officials that have been killed...
Yeah I feel what you sayin but when people look back on it they're gonna give him the credit cuz it happened on his watch. I'm sure baby Bush said he was gonna catch that nigga and they could have but it didn't seem like he was trying LOLOL. Not to mention, when 9/11 went down according to Fahrenheit 9/11 documentary Bush had Osama's family flown out of the U.S. on HIS jets. Bush didn't care about catching that nigga I think he only wanted to use him as a scapegoat.
well, first off, i'm mainly talking about giving Bush credit for the Iraq pull-out in that he's the one that signed off on it (he just wasn't around to implement it). people will give Obama credit, frankly, because the narrative, right or wrong, is that Bush started the war and Obama ended it. but i think we should be accurate.
as for Osama's family, a couple of things:
01. i do not accept "according to Fahrenheit 9/11" as a legitimate argument for ANYTHING, no matter how true. actually, let me restate that as "fuk Michael Moore and anybody that love em";
02. if Osama's family --who are typically not terrorists-- didn't have anything to do with 9/11 or al-Qaeda or what have you, what do you want to do with them? put them in jail?
03. so i can see that we're going to go down a conspiracy route here, which makes me wonder why you'd think one president is at the beck and call of SPECIAL INTERESTS and then the proceeding president is a fighter for truth and freedom and god bless America.
As for the dictators - Ghaddaffi (even tho it wasn't explicitly stated), the U.S. supplied the rebels with everything they needed to sweep dude and even froze his accounts around the world preventing him from tapping into the billions he had in swiss accounts and other offshore sources. If the Americans/CIA didn't pull that plug homey woulda gone into hiding in Mexico or South America and then re-emerged 10 years later.
I don't know LOLOL, I considered Ghaddaffi a dictator of some sort according to the media. I agree with part of what Im saying being conspiracy but iuno fam the Americans had jets flying over Libya and were freezing dude's assets and closing their embassies out there. I find it hard to believe that if they didn't have anything to do with Ghaddafi getting murked that they'd go to such lengths. Either way tho, it's up for debate doubt we'll ever know what went down.
Something that Obama also deserves credit for is with what's happening with the dollar strengthening and oil and gold plummeting (b/c of the dollar), the Europeans and the rest of the world are pulling their money out of equities and Europe and are dumping them in the only country stable and doing well the U.S. and the U.S. dollar.
2% is a lot btw, and that's only first quarter of the year. If that holds up it's possible that the U.S. GDP reaches 4-6% or even more. Even with Europe in shambles the U.S. is holding up quite well. Obama definitely deserves credit for that. Last time we even saw GDP go beyond 5% on a 15 trillion dollar economy was almost 10 years ago......
- has the whole world buying US dollars and as a result the price of oil & gold has been plummeting
- saved the US economy with the bailout of 2008 & the auto industry as well
- pushing to have taxes raised
- killed several dictators and worldwide terrorists (something his predecessor could not do)
- ended the war & pulled the troops outta Iraq
- created new programs & funding for small businesses
- created many helpful incentives for people who were underwater on their mortgages
Overall he WILL win a 2nd term and the next 4 years will be some of America's best years in a long time. Even if the economy gets worse he still saved the U.S. from a depression, brought back the auto industry and dropped unemployment significantly on a $15 trillion dollar economy. That sense of security in people's minds is more than enough to get people on board IF the economy gets worse.
As Commander in Chief I give the man an A+. He made the right decisions that got OBL merked, the only war he entered into was won without us putting troops on the ground and while playing a support role to NATO, and he got us out of Iraq. Also I like his increased usage of armed UAV's to conduct strikes in Afghanistan/Pakistan.
As President I give him a B+. He saved our auto industry, made good fiscal reforms and tightened regulation on wall street doing his best to turn around the economy. it will take time to see a full recovery and not much more could have been done to improve things in just 3 years considering the impact of globalization. if China was reporting better numbers and the EU wasn't in constant crises due to Greece, you best believe the US economy would be a different story right now. My major beef is his policies against medical (or otherwise) cannabis and his lack of action to change drug policy, if it wasn't for that I'd give the man an A. Hoping to see him turn a corner on drug policy in his second term.
FYI all the numbers on unemployment are dramatically fudged they only drop to those lower levels when you take out the unemployed who have just given up on looking for work also the underemployed kats working at Micky D's with bachelors and masters also impact the real numbers on unemployment...
I agree with part of what Im saying being conspiracy but iuno fam the Americans had jets flying over Libya and were freezing dude's assets and closing their embassies out there. I find it hard to believe that if they didn't have anything to do with Ghaddafi getting murked that they'd go to such lengths.
well, for one thing, there's a difference between "the US supported overthrowing Gaddafi" and "the US KILLED Gaddafi." for another, it's not like the US was the only nation providing any support.
plus, even if you say the US killed Gaddafi, that's one dictator. not dictators.
Something that Obama also deserves credit for is with what's happening with the dollar strengthening and oil and gold plummeting (b/c of the dollar), the Europeans and the rest of the world are pulling their money out of equities and Europe and are dumping them in the only country stable and doing well the U.S. and the U.S. dollar.
2% is a lot btw, and that's only first quarter of the year. If that holds up it's possible that the U.S. GDP reaches 4-6% or even more. Even with Europe in shambles the U.S. is holding up quite well. Obama definitely deserves credit for that. Last time we even saw GDP go beyond 5% on a 15 trillion dollar economy was almost 10 years ago......
The dollar is stable compared to the Euro these days but that doesn't say much, considering the cost of living in America is still high, and inflation is preventing many business owners from creating jobs these days. Only 69,000 jobs were created last month, and the recovery is weakening. All job data showed a revision downward after months of research.
Obama isn't a horrible president, but far from a good one in my opinion. More jobs would have been created if Obama would mind his own fucking business in state rights and let medicinal marijuana shops be open without fear of the feds shutting them down. Obama can stop this but he's a stubborn hard ass who can't think outside of the box. More state jobs would also be open if we stopped building things overseas and spending money on constant bloodshed that creates more enemies overseas, and instead spend that money here in America. Obama deserves far less than an A- man lol, there's a reason so many of his own supporters are abandoning him these days. Obama is better than Bush, but not by much. He's a failed president in my opinion. His only positive is that he's better than Romney, but even than, Obama hasn't shown America any change at all. Bush might as well still be president, what has seriously changed? Nothing!
FYI all the numbers on unemployment are dramatically fudged they only drop to those lower levels when you take out the unemployed who have just given up on looking for work also the underemployed kats working at Micky D's with bachelors and masters also impact the real numbers on unemployment...
Exactly, just cuz some of us here are doing good doesn't mean most of the country is. Obama wants to be a fucking cowboy like Bush and spend our tax dollars creating bloodshed all over the world, rather than spend money here in America and bail out states and cities nationwide. Obama shouldn't be surprised so many people don't wana fuck with him anymore. He had the Senate and House of Reps for two years, and did almost everything the way Bush would have done it, LOL. Obama can't get any serious props from me anymore. I look at Obama fans and I always get a blank stare when I say, what has he done?? Everything he's done, minus the healthcare issue, are all things Bush would have done. He even ended the war in Iraq under Bush's timetable smh.....extended his tax cuts too, exploding the deficit. What a sad joke.
Progressives didn't expect Obama to do the heavy lifting in Washington without the power of a social movement behind him. But it was Obama's many "compromises" with the same people whose policies ruined the economy and destroyed the United States' reputation that reached a point where his base was no longer "Fired Up and Ready to Go." In 2010 the Democrats got walloped largely because Obama failed to keep his base mobilized going into the first midterm election he faced as president.
And then there's the abject betrayal of Obama's supporters among civil libertarians who value the rule of law in the nation's anti-terrorism policies. Obama has normalized or expanded some of the worst excesses of executive power from the Bush-Cheney years. It's now "normal" for a president to assume the role of judge, jury, and executioner against any person deemed a "threat" to the realm: foreign nationals living anywhere in the world; U.S. citizens, their friends and relatives, passers-by, and associates; people who happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time (like at an Afghan wedding party) -- all are considered "legitimate" targets for liquidation by the state at the Chief Executive's whim. The "kill lists," the crackdown on whistleblowers like Pfc. Bradley Manning, a flourishing Guantanamo prison, and the National Defense Authorization Act's sanctioning of the throwing of U.S. citizens into the federal pen without due process are now normal fixtures of American life.
This new normal, where Wall Street criminals go free and whistleblowers are prosecuted, has been brought to us by a Chief Executive whose political enemies call him the most radical left-wing socialist president in our history. Wall Street banks should be pouring money into Obama's reelection since he's been so good to them, and the neocons should be rejoicing in his establishing precedent for more unchecked executive power. And either next year or four years from now, when the Republicans get their guy back in the Oval Office, he'll be able to point to the Obama years as justifying an even greater expansion of presidential powers.
--This article was written by a man who campaigned with Obama in person, what does that tell you?
Lots of good points made here, but I think that a lot of people jump the gun when they want to assess Obama's tenure. 3 years is nothing. Sadly there are people who expected Obama to make a change just like that. But these things take time. And many obstacles get in the way. We won't truly know how great or bad Obama was as a president until probably decades from now.
With that said, I'd give him a tentative B. I don't agree with his foreign policy and appeasements, but, like others have noted, he has made some progress, especially considering the obstacles standing in his way. He's also the coolest president, personality wise, since Clinton. I guess if I have to vote, I'd vote for him again.
Seems to me like you just dislike him for w/e reason. He is a good president and you will never realize how lucky you are that he came into power and saved you and your country from destruction. He's by far a better president than Bush. When Bush was in power people mocked and laughed at being American. At least with Obama he brings a certain degree of suave and class to the game.
You can't deny all he's done for the U.S. but if you wanna jump on the "F Obama" bandwagon by all means.....
Something that Obama also deserves credit for is with what's happening with the dollar strengthening and oil and gold plummeting (b/c of the dollar), the Europeans and the rest of the world are pulling their money out of equities and Europe and are dumping them in the only country stable and doing well the U.S. and the U.S. dollar.
2% is a lot btw, and that's only first quarter of the year. If that holds up it's possible that the U.S. GDP reaches 4-6% or even more. Even with Europe in shambles the U.S. is holding up quite well. Obama definitely deserves credit for that. Last time we even saw GDP go beyond 5% on a 15 trillion dollar economy was almost 10 years ago......
The dollar is stable compared to the Euro these days but that doesn't say much, considering the cost of living in America is still high, and inflation is preventing many business owners from creating jobs these days. Only 69,000 jobs were created last month, and the recovery is weakening.All job data showed a revision downward after months of research.
Obama isn't a horrible president, but far from a good one in my opinion. More jobs would have been created if Obama would mind his own fucking business in state rights and let medicinal marijuana shops be open without fear of the feds shutting them down. Obama can stop this but he's a stubborn hard ass who can't think outside of the box. More state jobs would also be open if we stopped building things overseas and spending money on constant bloodshed that creates more enemies overseas, and instead spend that money here in America. Obama deserves far less than an A- man lol, there's a reason so many of his own supporters are abandoning him these days. Obama is better than Bush, but not by much. He's a failed president in my opinion. His only positive is that he's better than Romney, but even than, Obama hasn't shown America any change at all. Bush might as well still be president, what has seriously changed? Nothing!
The bolded is not true. And the underlined is horse shit LOLOL. Buuuut I'll leave it alone.
FYI all the numbers on unemployment are dramatically fudged they only drop to those lower levels when you take out the unemployed who have just given up on looking for work also the underemployed kats working at Micky D's with bachelors and masters also impact the real numbers on unemployment...
Exactly, just cuz some of us here are doing good doesn't mean most of the country is. Obama wants to be a fucking cowboy like Bush and spend our tax dollars creating bloodshed all over the world, rather than spend money here in America and bail out states and cities nationwide. Obama shouldn't be surprised so many people don't wana fuck with him anymore. He had the Senate and House of Reps for two years, and did almost everything the way Bush would have done it, LOL. Obama can't get any serious props from me anymore. I look at Obama fans and I always get a blank stare when I say, what has he done?? Everything he's done, minus the healthcare issue, are all things Bush would have done. He even ended the war in Iraq under Bush's timetable smh.....extended his tax cuts too, exploding the deficit. What a sad joke.
Honestly Obama and bush are two sides of the same coin Bush had horrible Popel skills Obama does not, that is the only difference I can see. Ron Paul >>>Obama>Romney...
Sadly Paul has not a snowballs chance in hell as a 3rd party in this system...
Seems to me like you just dislike him for w/e reason. He is a good president and you will never realize how lucky you are that he came into power and saved you and your country from destruction. He's by far a better president than Bush. When Bush was in power people mocked and laughed at being American. At least with Obama he brings a certain degree of suave and class to the game.
You can't deny all he's done for the U.S. but if you wanna jump on the "F Obama" bandwagon by all means.....
I've always said Obama is better than Bush, but that doesn't say much when Obama is so much like him. His policies have more in common with Bush than it differentiates. He ended the Iraq War under Bush's terms. His policy on drugs is even more rigid than Bush's when it comes to marijuana, and as a proud marijuana smoker, Obama is clearly not on my side. Obama has cracked down extremely hard on medicinal marijuana shops, which doesn't make sense considering the bad economy and how even most Democrats in govt oppose the crackdown. Even in states where medicinal marijuana is legal, Obama still wants to be a jackass and act like an asshole.
You want me to go on? Ok, he extended the Bush tax cuts, something which exploded the federal deficit. And don't get me started on the war on Afghanistan lol.......it's a wasteful, expensive war that's bankrupting the country, while cities and states fall apart. What the fuck is this shit?
So um, why the flying fuck should I be excited about Obama again? He's given me nothing to be excited about, he's a failed president until someone proves to me otherwise. Hope and change is dead, in America, it's every man for himself. Obama is more suave than Bush, but people in the Middle East hate America more than ever before. He has an even lower approval rating in the Middle East than even Bush ever had.......Obama is a failure in my eyes. He won't get my vote again bruh
FYI all the numbers on unemployment are dramatically fudged they only drop to those lower levels when you take out the unemployed who have just given up on looking for work also the underemployed kats working at Micky D's with bachelors and masters also impact the real numbers on unemployment...
Exactly, just cuz some of us here are doing good doesn't mean most of the country is. Obama wants to be a fucking cowboy like Bush and spend our tax dollars creating bloodshed all over the world, rather than spend money here in America and bail out states and cities nationwide. Obama shouldn't be surprised so many people don't wana fuck with him anymore. He had the Senate and House of Reps for two years, and did almost everything the way Bush would have done it, LOL. Obama can't get any serious props from me anymore. I look at Obama fans and I always get a blank stare when I say, what has he done?? Everything he's done, minus the healthcare issue, are all things Bush would have done. He even ended the war in Iraq under Bush's timetable smh.....extended his tax cuts too, exploding the deficit. What a sad joke.
Honestly Obama and bush are two sides of the same coin Bush had horrible Popel skills Obama does not, that is the only difference I can see. Ron Paul >>>Obama>Romney...
Sadly Paul has not a snowballs chance in hell as a 3rd party in this system...
Obama and Romney are pretty much the same candidate. Both support neverending bloody wars, both love endless drones, both love the Bush tax cuts that are bankrupting the country, both suck Israel's dick, both hate medicinal marijuana, despite the many jobs it can and has created. The sad shit is I can go on and on.
Man, fuck Obama and fuck Romney, they both can suck my dick. I could care less who wins the election btw the both of them, even if Obama is a tiny bit better than Romney, it's not by much. Damn, a shame this is the best America can do. America is so fucked in the future it's not even funny.
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Killed Osama
Put the economy on the road to recovery
Kept Israel & the Neo Cons from warmongering us into another endless Mideast conflict
Attempted to improve our health care system (pending)
Came out in support (reluctantly) of gay marriage
Spent less than any President in our lifetime, despite the media deception
here's a chart dummies
Really, his performance was C, but he's had to deal with sabotage from his own party (Blue Dogs, misc. Dems & ex-Presidents), the most impotent Congress & Senate of my lifetime, racism, birthers, an incompetent media, & global economic collapse.
I'm voting for him again, considering the alternative is a return to economic malpractice and military adventurism via Mitt Romney and his team of ex-Bush folks.
I strongly encourage those of you who are socially minded to find a reason to vote for Obama in November even if you have to hold your nose while you do it.
Here's 2 really important ones:
The next President will be able to select at least 1 Supreme Court Justice, if not 2 of them. Supreme Court Justices serve for life and if you've been paying attention to what this Conservative Court has done to our Democracy since the Bush v Gore decision, this should be a huge concern.
Also, the next President will determine our course of action in Iran. Considering that we are still in Afghanistan & Iraq and our military is exhausted from the longest stretch of fighting in US history, this would be the key issue in the election any other year.
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •-killed osama, even after bush decided his capture was not a priority
-he signed in the fair sentencing act, which reduced the disparity between the amount of crack cocaine and powder cocaine needed to trigger certain federal criminal penalties ....
-repealed "don't as, don't tell" ...
-signed the lilly ledbetter fair pay restoration act, making progress in a decades-long battle for women to get equal pay for equal work....
-signed the claims resolution act of 2010...
-the economy is moving in the right direction...he oversaw the creation of more jobs in 2010 alone than bush did in eight years
-helped to save the auto industry, when most people wanted the fed to allow GM to fail...which saved millions of jobs. and now GM is again the top car company in the world.
-made it so that banks could no longer use YOUR money to invest in high-risk financial instruments that work against their own customers' interests....
-created a bureau within the Federal Reserve to regulate consumer financial products like mortgages and credit cards
-oversaw expansion of the Pell grants program, to expand opportunity for low income students to go to college
-fought to keep the middle class from having to pay higher taxes ...
really he's accomplished quite a bit. especially considering republicans have obstructed much of his agenda through an unprecedented use of the filibuster
people's expectations were just to high and the country was in so much of a mess that no one noticed or cared to notice what he did accomplish.... i'm voting for him again *shrugs*
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •really, i cant say my life has changed for better or worse. gas prices done went up, but so has my salary. i wish he went harder for his healthcare bill, but im on tri-care so im good regardless. he also knocked off bin laden. my daughter will grow up knowing its possible to be president instead of it being that same ol parental pipe dream id always assumed it was, for whatever that's worth.
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Yeah I feel what you sayin but when people look back on it they're gonna give him the credit cuz it happened on his watch. I'm sure baby Bush said he was gonna catch that nigga and they could have but it didn't seem like he was trying LOLOL. Not to mention, when 9/11 went down according to Fahrenheit 9/11 documentary Bush had Osama's family flown out of the U.S. on HIS jets. Bush didn't care about catching that nigga I think he only wanted to use him as a scapegoat.
As for the dictators - Ghaddaffi (even tho it wasn't explicitly stated), the U.S. supplied the rebels with everything they needed to sweep dude and even froze his accounts around the world preventing him from tapping into the billions he had in swiss accounts and other offshore sources. If the Americans/CIA didn't pull that plug homey woulda gone into hiding in Mexico or South America and then re-emerged 10 years later.
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •or, in other words, zero dictators.
well, first off, i'm mainly talking about giving Bush credit for the Iraq pull-out in that he's the one that signed off on it (he just wasn't around to implement it). people will give Obama credit, frankly, because the narrative, right or wrong, is that Bush started the war and Obama ended it. but i think we should be accurate.
as for Osama's family, a couple of things:
01. i do not accept "according to Fahrenheit 9/11" as a legitimate argument for ANYTHING, no matter how true. actually, let me restate that as "fuk Michael Moore and anybody that love em";
02. if Osama's family --who are typically not terrorists-- didn't have anything to do with 9/11 or al-Qaeda or what have you, what do you want to do with them? put them in jail?
03. so i can see that we're going to go down a conspiracy route here, which makes me wonder why you'd think one president is at the beck and call of SPECIAL INTERESTS and then the proceeding president is a fighter for truth and freedom and god bless America.
so... zero dictators?
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I don't know LOLOL, I considered Ghaddaffi a dictator of some sort according to the media. I agree with part of what Im saying being conspiracy but iuno fam the Americans had jets flying over Libya and were freezing dude's assets and closing their embassies out there. I find it hard to believe that if they didn't have anything to do with Ghaddafi getting murked that they'd go to such lengths. Either way tho, it's up for debate doubt we'll ever know what went down.
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Something that Obama also deserves credit for is with what's happening with the dollar strengthening and oil and gold plummeting (b/c of the dollar), the Europeans and the rest of the world are pulling their money out of equities and Europe and are dumping them in the only country stable and doing well the U.S. and the U.S. dollar.
GDP growth rose 1.9 percent in the first quarter of 2012
http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/glance.htm
2% is a lot btw, and that's only first quarter of the year. If that holds up it's possible that the U.S. GDP reaches 4-6% or even more. Even with Europe in shambles the U.S. is holding up quite well. Obama definitely deserves credit for that. Last time we even saw GDP go beyond 5% on a 15 trillion dollar economy was almost 10 years ago......
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1 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether 1GOAT LOL •These.
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1 • Wack Feelings 1Nosign 1Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •well, for one thing, there's a difference between "the US supported overthrowing Gaddafi" and "the US KILLED Gaddafi." for another, it's not like the US was the only nation providing any support.
plus, even if you say the US killed Gaddafi, that's one dictator. not dictators.
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •The dollar is stable compared to the Euro these days but that doesn't say much, considering the cost of living in America is still high, and inflation is preventing many business owners from creating jobs these days. Only 69,000 jobs were created last month, and the recovery is weakening. All job data showed a revision downward after months of research.
Obama isn't a horrible president, but far from a good one in my opinion. More jobs would have been created if Obama would mind his own fucking business in state rights and let medicinal marijuana shops be open without fear of the feds shutting them down. Obama can stop this but he's a stubborn hard ass who can't think outside of the box. More state jobs would also be open if we stopped building things overseas and spending money on constant bloodshed that creates more enemies overseas, and instead spend that money here in America. Obama deserves far less than an A- man lol, there's a reason so many of his own supporters are abandoning him these days. Obama is better than Bush, but not by much. He's a failed president in my opinion. His only positive is that he's better than Romney, but even than, Obama hasn't shown America any change at all. Bush might as well still be president, what has seriously changed? Nothing!
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1 • Wack Feelings 1Nosign 1Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Exactly, just cuz some of us here are doing good doesn't mean most of the country is. Obama wants to be a fucking cowboy like Bush and spend our tax dollars creating bloodshed all over the world, rather than spend money here in America and bail out states and cities nationwide. Obama shouldn't be surprised so many people don't wana fuck with him anymore. He had the Senate and House of Reps for two years, and did almost everything the way Bush would have done it, LOL. Obama can't get any serious props from me anymore. I look at Obama fans and I always get a blank stare when I say, what has he done?? Everything he's done, minus the healthcare issue, are all things Bush would have done. He even ended the war in Iraq under Bush's timetable smh.....extended his tax cuts too, exploding the deficit. What a sad joke.
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Progressives didn't expect Obama to do the heavy lifting in Washington without the power of a social movement behind him. But it was Obama's many "compromises" with the same people whose policies ruined the economy and destroyed the United States' reputation that reached a point where his base was no longer "Fired Up and Ready to Go." In 2010 the Democrats got walloped largely because Obama failed to keep his base mobilized going into the first midterm election he faced as president.
And then there's the abject betrayal of Obama's supporters among civil libertarians who value the rule of law in the nation's anti-terrorism policies. Obama has normalized or expanded some of the worst excesses of executive power from the Bush-Cheney years. It's now "normal" for a president to assume the role of judge, jury, and executioner against any person deemed a "threat" to the realm: foreign nationals living anywhere in the world; U.S. citizens, their friends and relatives, passers-by, and associates; people who happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time (like at an Afghan wedding party) -- all are considered "legitimate" targets for liquidation by the state at the Chief Executive's whim. The "kill lists," the crackdown on whistleblowers like Pfc. Bradley Manning, a flourishing Guantanamo prison, and the National Defense Authorization Act's sanctioning of the throwing of U.S. citizens into the federal pen without due process are now normal fixtures of American life.
This new normal, where Wall Street criminals go free and whistleblowers are prosecuted, has been brought to us by a Chief Executive whose political enemies call him the most radical left-wing socialist president in our history. Wall Street banks should be pouring money into Obama's reelection since he's been so good to them, and the neocons should be rejoicing in his establishing precedent for more unchecked executive power. And either next year or four years from now, when the Republicans get their guy back in the Oval Office, he'll be able to point to the Obama years as justifying an even greater expansion of presidential powers.
--This article was written by a man who campaigned with Obama in person, what does that tell you?
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •With that said, I'd give him a tentative B. I don't agree with his foreign policy and appeasements, but, like others have noted, he has made some progress, especially considering the obstacles standing in his way. He's also the coolest president, personality wise, since Clinton. I guess if I have to vote, I'd vote for him again.
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Seems to me like you just dislike him for w/e reason. He is a good president and you will never realize how lucky you are that he came into power and saved you and your country from destruction. He's by far a better president than Bush. When Bush was in power people mocked and laughed at being American. At least with Obama he brings a certain degree of suave and class to the game.
You can't deny all he's done for the U.S. but if you wanna jump on the "F Obama" bandwagon by all means.....
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •The bolded is not true. And the underlined is horse shit LOLOL. Buuuut I'll leave it alone.
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Honestly Obama and bush are two sides of the same coin Bush had horrible Popel skills Obama does not, that is the only difference I can see. Ron Paul >>>Obama>Romney...
Sadly Paul has not a snowballs chance in hell as a 3rd party in this system...
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2 • Wack Feelings Nosign 2Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •I've always said Obama is better than Bush, but that doesn't say much when Obama is so much like him. His policies have more in common with Bush than it differentiates. He ended the Iraq War under Bush's terms. His policy on drugs is even more rigid than Bush's when it comes to marijuana, and as a proud marijuana smoker, Obama is clearly not on my side. Obama has cracked down extremely hard on medicinal marijuana shops, which doesn't make sense considering the bad economy and how even most Democrats in govt oppose the crackdown. Even in states where medicinal marijuana is legal, Obama still wants to be a jackass and act like an asshole.
You want me to go on? Ok, he extended the Bush tax cuts, something which exploded the federal deficit. And don't get me started on the war on Afghanistan lol.......it's a wasteful, expensive war that's bankrupting the country, while cities and states fall apart. What the fuck is this shit?
So um, why the flying fuck should I be excited about Obama again? He's given me nothing to be excited about, he's a failed president until someone proves to me otherwise. Hope and change is dead, in America, it's every man for himself. Obama is more suave than Bush, but people in the Middle East hate America more than ever before. He has an even lower approval rating in the Middle East than even Bush ever had.......Obama is a failure in my eyes. He won't get my vote again bruh
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Obama and Romney are pretty much the same candidate. Both support neverending bloody wars, both love endless drones, both love the Bush tax cuts that are bankrupting the country, both suck Israel's dick, both hate medicinal marijuana, despite the many jobs it can and has created. The sad shit is I can go on and on.
Man, fuck Obama and fuck Romney, they both can suck my dick. I could care less who wins the election btw the both of them, even if Obama is a tiny bit better than Romney, it's not by much. Damn, a shame this is the best America can do. America is so fucked in the future it's not even funny.
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