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Male tennis player: women should be payed less money- Sharapova et al catch feelings.

Young_ChitlinYoung_Chitlin YCN Chief/FCC Member/#RedVelvetSquad Member/IC Task Force GeneralASUville, PhoenixPosts: 22,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 2012 in From the Cheap Seats
French tennis player Gilles Simon says women tennis players should be payed less money.
French Tennis Pro Gilles Simon Is Ripped A New One For Saying Female Players Should Be Paid Less
By Anna Breslaw

To say that Gilles Simon, currently seeded 13th in France and just elected to the ATP Player Council, "put his foot in his mouth" in an interview on Monday would be inaccurate; more aptly, he intentionally, with forethought and hubris, said something fucking dumb as a rock. Right after the anniversary of Title IX, too. Booooo.

Talking to the radio station France Info and newspaper L'Equipe after winning his first round match, Simon said that he was irritated that the men's tournament in Rome was a joint event with the women without this being signed off by him, citing under-attended women's tennis matches as the reason. He added that women shouldn't be paid as much as the men:

"I think that men's tennis is really ahead of women's tennis at this stage. Once more, the men spent surely twice as much time on court as the women at the French Open. We often talk about salary equality. I don't think it's something that works in sport. I think we are the only sport that has parity with the women in terms of prize money. Meanwhile, men's tennis remains more attractive than women's tennis at this moment... Am I going to incur the wrath of feminist organizations? I don't care,"

YES, #THEWRATH. Fear us, for we will grunt with an exertion that you find distractingly sexual. That's a thing too, remember! WTF, women's tennis? Naturally, the biggest women in tennis are spitting much-deserved barbs at Simon.

Maria Sharapova said:
"We women have fought so long to get equal prize money. It was a big challenge and nobody really supported us. It's been a few years since we've gotten that. We're all really proud of it, and we continue to build the sport and make it bigger. No matter what anyone says, or the criticisms that we get, despite everything else, I mean, I'm sure there are a few more people that watch my matches than his."

And Serena Williams:
"I mean, definitely, a lot more people are watching Maria than Simon. Women's tennis is really awesome. It's a great fight. We fought for years with Billie Jean King and Venus as well, really set the pattern on what we should do. I started playing tennis at 2 years old. I'm sure he started when he was 2 years old, as well. I worked just as hard as he did."

But perhaps the most revealing statement was that of Sloan Stephens, an 19-year-old American female tennis star, who told this story to the press at Wimbledon (which, incidentally, only began paying men and women the same amount of prize money in 2007, the last major to do so):
He hit me with a ball when I was ball kid for the first time. He hit me right in my chest because he lost a point and set he turned around and slammed the ball and it hit me. Whatever he says, that means nothing to me. We had a discussion about it on the court last year because he was trying to kick me off the practice court in Estoril and I'm like 'Dude, you don't have this court.' His coach was nice and he asked me, 'Why don't you like him?' and I said because when I was 10 he hit me with the ball and he didn't even say sorry and kind of walked off. So I was like, 'I don't like him.'"

Asshat.
¡No contaban con mi astucia!
5 Grand wrote: »
I see a lot of people saying they'd "give" family members money.

Thats not what you want to do.

You want to set up a trust fund so they get a monthly payment. You can set up a trust fund so your mother gets, say, $10,000 a month for the rest of her life. According to my math, $10,000 per month for 20 years is $2.4 million. That's better than giving her $2.4 million up front because she can blow it all in a matter of days and then she'll want more and you'd feel obligated to give it to her.

So if you win, don't "give" anybody anything. Set up a trust fund.

Now that I think about it, I could set up a trust fund for my brother. I'd give him $10,000 a month. He's about 45 now so $10,000 per month for 40 years is only $4.8 million. That makes more sense than giving him the money in one lump sum.

AggyAF wrote: »
Anyone else think it's crazy only about 10 posters regularly post here and we got damn near 500 pages?

All the other sports threads on here are people with hobbies. This is football - the beautiful game. We eat, sleep and drink football.

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  • Young_ChitlinYoung_Chitlin YCN Chief/FCC Member/#RedVelvetSquad Member/IC Task Force General ASUville, PhoenixPosts: 22,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    More quotes from Simon:

    The 128 players (in the men's singles draw at Wimbledon) think just like me, that's for sure. Just ask them. Maybe they can't say it. ... Maybe they will lose, I don't know, $2 million on the contracts if they say that.
    My point of view was just about the entertainment. If you just watch how it is working in every other sport, even for the singers, you're just paid by the public directly. My point was that I have the feeling that men's tennis is actually more interesting than women's tennis. As in any business or anything, you just have to be paid just about that. It's not because we play five sets and they are playing three.

    Maria is more famous than me. I know it. She deserves to earn more money than me.
    ¡No contaban con mi astucia!
    5 Grand wrote: »
    I see a lot of people saying they'd "give" family members money.

    Thats not what you want to do.

    You want to set up a trust fund so they get a monthly payment. You can set up a trust fund so your mother gets, say, $10,000 a month for the rest of her life. According to my math, $10,000 per month for 20 years is $2.4 million. That's better than giving her $2.4 million up front because she can blow it all in a matter of days and then she'll want more and you'd feel obligated to give it to her.

    So if you win, don't "give" anybody anything. Set up a trust fund.

    Now that I think about it, I could set up a trust fund for my brother. I'd give him $10,000 a month. He's about 45 now so $10,000 per month for 40 years is only $4.8 million. That makes more sense than giving him the money in one lump sum.

    AggyAF wrote: »
    Anyone else think it's crazy only about 10 posters regularly post here and we got damn near 500 pages?

    All the other sports threads on here are people with hobbies. This is football - the beautiful game. We eat, sleep and drink football.

    hqg-277.gif


  • Young_ChitlinYoung_Chitlin YCN Chief/FCC Member/#RedVelvetSquad Member/IC Task Force General ASUville, PhoenixPosts: 22,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's just a matter of who believes what, and then that is an endless debate.

    Tennis is a business like any other. I'm sure there's a way to figure out who people are coming to watch. I'm sure there's TV ratings to look at. I'm sure there are ample numbers out there to dissect. As any business goes, you look at those numbers and then decide where it goes from there.


    ¡No contaban con mi astucia!
    5 Grand wrote: »
    I see a lot of people saying they'd "give" family members money.

    Thats not what you want to do.

    You want to set up a trust fund so they get a monthly payment. You can set up a trust fund so your mother gets, say, $10,000 a month for the rest of her life. According to my math, $10,000 per month for 20 years is $2.4 million. That's better than giving her $2.4 million up front because she can blow it all in a matter of days and then she'll want more and you'd feel obligated to give it to her.

    So if you win, don't "give" anybody anything. Set up a trust fund.

    Now that I think about it, I could set up a trust fund for my brother. I'd give him $10,000 a month. He's about 45 now so $10,000 per month for 40 years is only $4.8 million. That makes more sense than giving him the money in one lump sum.

    AggyAF wrote: »
    Anyone else think it's crazy only about 10 posters regularly post here and we got damn near 500 pages?

    All the other sports threads on here are people with hobbies. This is football - the beautiful game. We eat, sleep and drink football.

    hqg-277.gif


  • ToppsTopps Posts: 447
    I only watch tennis to see Serena asstate.
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  • ragerage Posts: 5,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LMAO @ Roger and Andy both cosigning this guy on the subtle...
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  • Matt-Matt- stew Posts: 21,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd be mad too If someone was trying to take money from me.

    But dude has a good point

    Btw didnt read
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  • dalyricalbanditdalyricalbandit Co-Owner Of AllhipHop.com, Super Moderator, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 66,808 Regulator
    i might be wrong but isnt the william sisters the biggest names in tennis the last ten plus yrs?
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  • bow to royaltybow to royalty Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Makes sense. It's business. More money you bring in, the more money you make. If a female player is drawing a crowd as big as a man (Williams sisters), then I get paying them more. Like the NBA vs WNBA. The gap isn't nearly as big as that, but the same principle.
  • playmaker88playmaker88 Boy, I tell you that's vision Like Tony Romo when he hitting Witten Posts: 67,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2012
  • Matt-Matt- stew Posts: 21,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    .
    Makes sense. It's business. More money you bring in, the more money you make. If a female player is drawing a crowd as big as a man (Williams sisters), then I get paying them more. Like the NBA vs WNBA. The gap isn't nearly as big as that, but the same principle.

    but the prize money isn't based on how many viewers each individual can generate. if that were the case then kournikova would be handed a stack just for participating.
    Figo
  • ragerage Posts: 5,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2012
    Matt- wrote: »
    .
    Makes sense. It's business. More money you bring in, the more money you make. If a female player is drawing a crowd as big as a man (Williams sisters), then I get paying them more. Like the NBA vs WNBA. The gap isn't nearly as big as that, but the same principle.

    but the prize money isn't based on how many viewers each individual can generate. if that were the case then kournikova would be handed a stack just for participating.

    Your right but...I am sure the amount of viewers and ticket holders each tour generates can be caluclated and then allocate the money accordingly. Having said that...I dont think the men really want to get into the numbers...aside from Fed and Nadal nobody cares about the rest.
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  • dbrazil412dbrazil412 the 412Posts: 9,410 ✭✭✭✭✭
    female tennis >>>
    men tennis is long as fuck

    Roddick is the sergio garcia of tennis



    lol good analogy.
  • twizza 77twizza 77 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I only watch women's tennis because besides Serena, some them are thick af and the moaning they do. I think female tennis players are screamers in bed.
  • HotnikelzHotnikelz Posts: 430
    male tennis= WNBA

    idk wat u talkin bout, djokovic and nadal are two of the most entertaining players of any sex in the history of the sport
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  • Inglewood_BInglewood_B Woodz of Inglez Posts: 11,891 ✭✭✭✭✭
    if he wanna be paid more then women then he shouldve played a real man's sport
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  • ineedpussyineedpussy long hair dont care but bald head dont give a fuck! Posts: 7,106 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think women should get paid the same unless they play the same sets. Women play three men five. So until its even then no
  • Young_ChitlinYoung_Chitlin YCN Chief/FCC Member/#RedVelvetSquad Member/IC Task Force General ASUville, PhoenixPosts: 22,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Smh @ niggas not giving props for dude that won French Open 7 of the past 8 years
    ¡No contaban con mi astucia!
    5 Grand wrote: »
    I see a lot of people saying they'd "give" family members money.

    Thats not what you want to do.

    You want to set up a trust fund so they get a monthly payment. You can set up a trust fund so your mother gets, say, $10,000 a month for the rest of her life. According to my math, $10,000 per month for 20 years is $2.4 million. That's better than giving her $2.4 million up front because she can blow it all in a matter of days and then she'll want more and you'd feel obligated to give it to her.

    So if you win, don't "give" anybody anything. Set up a trust fund.

    Now that I think about it, I could set up a trust fund for my brother. I'd give him $10,000 a month. He's about 45 now so $10,000 per month for 40 years is only $4.8 million. That makes more sense than giving him the money in one lump sum.

    AggyAF wrote: »
    Anyone else think it's crazy only about 10 posters regularly post here and we got damn near 500 pages?

    All the other sports threads on here are people with hobbies. This is football - the beautiful game. We eat, sleep and drink football.

    hqg-277.gif


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  • DR. JEKDR. JEK Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2012
    Matt- wrote: »
    .
    Makes sense. It's business. More money you bring in, the more money you make. If a female player is drawing a crowd as big as a man (Williams sisters), then I get paying them more. Like the NBA vs WNBA. The gap isn't nearly as big as that, but the same principle.

    but the prize money isn't based on how many viewers each individual can generate. if that were the case then kournikova would be handed a stack just for participating.


    I get what you're saying but Gilles went as far as saying he believes Men's tennis is more interesting. That's where viewership can be relevent and possibly Refute what he saying.

  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Posts: 25,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Women's Tennis is one of the few sports where the women probably generate as much or more money than the men. So dude is way off the mark with his comments.
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  • KNiGHTSKNiGHTS Mr. Fifth Letter Your ConsciencePosts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Real talk: Men's tennis is as useless as men's gymnastics. Ain't nobody watching that shit. If I stop on a tennis match, Serena's thick ass or some European chick is grunting and sweating across the screen. People might not come to the women's games, but I'm sure they've gotta be killing in TV ratings.
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  • playmaker88playmaker88 Boy, I tell you that's vision Like Tony Romo when he hitting Witten Posts: 67,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I dont watch women tennis religiously but i damn sure dont just watch it because of seeing some chicks ass thats beyond lame


    thats the same shit cats get on certain females about.. when watching sports..
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