Why do/don't you believe in god?

FuriousOne · July 2012

waterproof wrote: »

FuriousOne wrote: »

Great drop @Jaded Righteousness. A. Phillip Randolf is barely mentioned and if you listen to others, King was the only and most instrumental part in the movement when there were many that played a part. He was the most Vocal and Kings attribution was necessary but he wasn't alone and Christians weren't the only ones fighting.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2012-02-22/black-atheists-civil-rights/53211196/1

few people think of A. Philip Randolph, a labor organizer who originated the idea of the march and was at King's side as he made his famous I Have a Dream speech.

man please any person who studies the civil rights movement would of known about A. Phillip Randolf this shit aint some new shocking earth shattering information yall kill me, everytime some person who is known to those who study but not known to the mainstream you have people fall over that shit.

yall was the same people that was giving Glen Beck props when a few years ago he did an episode on Black founding fathers of america and yall was cheering and giving props and shit but if yall was on your studies you would of known that shit.

There is no one on earth that knows everything. I see no problem with cosigning relevant info even if i knew about it before and was reminded. What he provided is appropriate for the discussion at hand and i see nothing wrong with giving props for it.

Oceanic · July 2012

Tell that to Judah. I wouldnt have mentioned Randolph had he not asked me to name drop a few atheists. Maybe you should talk to him and help him with his studies since he's obviously not the most knowledgable. You don't have to stick your head in conversations that don't involve you if you don't want to. I didn't ask you to join in. Randolph was brought up before you came into the picture and if you can't understand why I'm using his name in this debate, you lack the comprehension skills you need so maybe you should exit now.

Oceanic · July 2012

I'm just trying to understand why you think Yah worked through King but not through Randolph when they both contributed to the same cause.

Oceanic · July 2012

If you can't answer that, theres no need for you and I to continue this convo

waterproof · July 2012

Jaded Righteousness wrote: »

Tell that to Judah. I wouldnt have mentioned Randolph had he not asked me to name drop a few atheists. Maybe you should talk to him and help him with his studies since he's obviously not the most knowledgable. You don't have to stick your head in conversations that don't involve you if you don't want to. I didn't ask you to join in. Randolph was brought up before you came into the picture and if you can't understand why I'm using his name in this debate, you lack comprehension skills and maybe you should exit now.

what in the fuck RANDOLPH and ATHEISTS got to do with my post, when i was answering about MLK and his mission and prophecy he had for us as a people, nigga you can play that fool negro role all you want with the other cats but that shit aint going to fly with me.

waterproof · July 2012

Jaded Righteousness wrote: »

I'm just trying to understand why you think Yah worked through King but not through Randolph when they both contributed to the same cause.

Because YAH choosed MLK to see the Promise land for his people and he see us making that journey like it was told in the scripture and tell them that they will get there as a people as one like it was told in the scripture and his misson was done thats why, YHWH choose who he will to carry out a misson, you dont see Moses crying on why he couldn't enter the promise land after all he did and Yah told that to him in his face.

Oceanic · July 2012

waterproof wrote: »

what in the fuck RANDOLPH and ATHEISTS got to do with my post, when i was answering about MLK and his mission and prophecy he had for us as a people, nigga you can play that fool negro role all you want with the other cats but that shit aint going to fly with me.

motherfucker

Oceanic · July 2012

waterproof wrote: »

Jaded Righteousness wrote: »

I'm just trying to understand why you think Yah worked through King but not through Randolph when they both contributed to the same cause.

Because YAH choosed MLK to see the Promise land for his people and he see us making that journey like it was told in the scripture and tell them that they will get there as a people as one like it was told in the scripture and his misson was done thats why, YHWH choose who he will to carry out a misson, you dont see Moses crying on why he couldn't enter the promise land after all he did and Yah told that to him in his face.

You can't really say Yah chose MLK to see the Promise land for his people as it was told in the scriptures. I mean, MLK was a minister preaching out of the scriptures. He based his philosophy on the scriptures. Of course that's what he's going to tie into his teaching. In other words, Yah didn't choose MLK, MLK chose Yah, or rather, MLK chose to be a Baptist and not a Hebrew Isrealite.

Randolph made steps in that same journey and he was an atheist. Yah didn't choose Randolph but he still made an impact. Atheists and Theists both played roles in the same movement.

judahxulu · July 2012

Jaded Righteousness wrote: »

Tell that to Judah. I wouldnt have mentioned Randolph had he not asked me to name drop a few atheists. Maybe you should talk to him and help him with his studies since he's obviously not the most knowledgable. You don't have to stick your head in conversations that don't involve you if you don't want to. I didn't ask you to join in. Randolph was brought up before you came into the picture and if you can't understand why I'm using his name in this debate, you lack the comprehension skills you need so maybe you should exit now.

nigga please.... the basis of what Mlk was on is biblical is the fucking point. randolph may have provided tech support but nothing was led by him nigga. you can play semantic games all you want but 2 things remain true: 1) atheism is so un-african 2) it comes straight from europeans and 3) randolph basically fucked the march on washington up. it was originally the "poor peoples march" randolph along with rustin is what made it hollywood and totally not in tune with the original intent. they sold the whole thing out to be controlled by the jews and made into some universal shit when it was about black people.rustin was that eras champion of the gay agenda infiltrating the civil rights movement too btw. you only know budweiser poster black history lil nigga. i live this shit. u tryna tell me something about mlk when WE are the people who gave new life to the SCLC. the dr. mlk center for non-violent conflict resolution is on OUR village. unia people come to US. why? because we doing what garvey talked of. when fred hampton jr was sitting in prison and them fake ass panthers left him to rot WE were the ones that kept his books tight and made sure they didnt fucking kill him in prison. nat turner was trying to get to JERUSALEM not atheist land, bitch. harriet tubman was the "moses of her people" not the fuckin "dawkins of her people". nigga get off the white mans dick....low self esteem having coon. if a white man looked in yo face and called you a monkey youd be ready to fight but its cool cause he tells you in a classroom using technical jargon. niggggaaa please

Oceanic · July 2012

Yeah you talking all that bullshit but it still don't change the fact that

1. Hoover wasn't looking for Black Hebrew Isrealites, nor were they a target
2. King was not a Black Hebrew Isrealite; neither was Malcolm, Muhammad, Newton or anybody important to Hoover
3. The Communism/Black Nationalists were a threat to Hoover; they were targets
4. Atheists played a part in black history and world history; more so than Black Hebrew Isrealites have and/or will
5. You, being human, are an ape, and your ancestors shared the same reality

You asked for atheists and I named them.. and can keep doing so.. Don't get tight cuz I brought Randolph up, bitch boy.

waterproof · July 2012

Jaded Righteousness wrote: »

waterproof wrote: »

Jaded Righteousness wrote: »

I'm just trying to understand why you think Yah worked through King but not through Randolph when they both contributed to the same cause.

Because YAH choosed MLK to see the Promise land for his people and he see us making that journey like it was told in the scripture and tell them that they will get there as a people as one like it was told in the scripture and his misson was done thats why, YHWH choose who he will to carry out a misson, you dont see Moses crying on why he couldn't enter the promise land after all he did and Yah told that to him in his face.

You can't really say Yah chose MLK to see the Promise land for his people as it was told in the scriptures. I mean, MLK was a minister preaching out of the scriptures. He based his philosophy on the scriptures. Of course that's what he's going to tie into his teaching. In other words, Yah didn't choose MLK, MLK chose Yah, or rather, MLK chose to be a Baptist and not a Hebrew Isrealite.

Randolph made steps in that same journey and he was an atheist. Yah didn't choose Randolph but he still made an impact. Atheists and Theists both played roles in the same movement.

and yes he is a baptist and so is alot of Hebrew descendants but their spirit is Hebrew and you damn righ MLK chosed YAH it's in our dna to chose our father. You think MLK was just making shit up, look in that man eyes and tell me that shit again, He seen the Promise land. That shit wasn't scripted that came out of his heart at that time and told what he seen, he know when Yah placed him on that mountain top in Caanan and showed him all of us going back home as a people., He knew his time and job was finished.

now tell me again that he was making this up

you should pick this up and get a better understanding on the Man A%20Testament%20of%20Hope%20.jpg

Oceanic · July 2012

judahxulu wrote: »

2 things remain true: 1) atheism is so un-african 2) it comes straight from europeans

1. Africa "invented" atheism
2. Therefore it comes from Africans

Oceanic · July 2012

judahxulu wrote: »

it was originally the "poor peoples march" randolph along with rustin is what made it hollywood and totally not in tune with the original intent. they sold the whole thing out to be controlled by the jews and made into some universal shit when it was about black people.rustin was that eras champion of the gay agenda infiltrating the civil rights movement too btw. you only know budweiser poster black history lil nigga. i live this shit. u tryna tell me something about mlk when WE are the people who gave new life to the SCLC. the dr. mlk center for non-violent conflict resolution is on OUR village. unia people come to US. why? because we doing what garvey talked of. when fred hampton jr was sitting in prison and them fake ass panthers left him to rot WE were the ones that kept his books tight and made sure they didnt fucking kill him in prison. nat turner was trying to get to JERUSALEM not atheist land, bitch. harriet tubman was the "moses of her people" not the fuckin "dawkins of her people". nigga get off the white mans dick....low self esteem having coon. if a white man looked in yo face and called you a monkey youd be ready to fight but its cool cause he tells you in a classroom using technical jargon. niggggaaa please

All of this is just a rant full of bullshit and could be several seperate debates for another time so I'm not even going to get into it and go further away from the original topic.

bambu · July 2012

D-Jack wrote: »

And even if Europeans created Atheism
Who gives a fuck?
Like why does it have to be a race thing to disbelieve in god?

What you don't know can kill you.....

bambu · July 2012

LOL....

@D-Jack.... No pascal's wager....

I do not seek the opportunity of eternal happiness that you speak of.....

Trying to find my angle????

Again,
What you don't know can kill you.....

^^^Before anyone gets homotional and claims that I am violent, click the link.....

Oceanic · July 2012

judahxulu wrote: »

coon.

Says the black man calling me a nigga.

judahxulu wrote: »

low self esteem

Just because I say that you aren't special doesn't mean I have low self esteem. Like I told you before, you and I are just waves in the same ocean. Your perceptions have tricked you into thinking you are seperate from me and your religion has you believing you're on a pedastal

bambu · July 2012

^^^fag rant...

Ole' black man calling me a nigga.... head Ass nigga

beenwize · July 2012

D-Jack wrote: »

Bambu, I'm sorry to say but you're an irrational and racist bigot.

Irrational is the exact word to describe Bimbo.

beenwize · July 2012

D-Jack wrote: »

LOL@ an invisible being telling anyone to do anything.

Lol according to waterproof an invisible being called Yahweh speaks to him by voice.

bambu · July 2012

D-Jack wrote: »

Bambu, I'm sorry to say but you're an irrational and racist bigot.

I grow weary of entertaining your insolence......

You should pray to the gods of your ancestors and beg forgiveness for their fuckery and failed attempts at manipulating the direction of humankind for their own twisted purposes....

Repent for your own ignorance and willingness to continue in their failed ideologies....Amun...

beenwize wrote: »

D-Jack wrote: »

Bambu, I'm sorry to say but you're an irrational and racist bigot.

Irrational is the exact word to describe Bimbo.

LOL........ @Maestro_lungs, @beenwize, @Jaded Righteousness.....

smart/dumb ass niggas......

waterproof · July 2012

beenwize wrote: »

D-Jack wrote: »

LOL@ an invisible being telling anyone to do anything.

Lol according to waterproof an invisible being called Yahweh speaks to him by voice.

Smh at this stupid ass nigga and that stupid ass nigga small lung who cosigning a fool ol following the blind ass nigga.
Let me show everybody how dumb beenfool is, this pork eating ex hebrew turned hellenist christian turned occult worshiping a god that returning to fight aliens, turned nile valley now is a gnostic sethian, just said I follow a invisible god, but this stupid ass fool said he follow the new testament god but not the old testament elohim, lol.

Now beenfool have you ever seen ur god, have you heard your god, do your god answer back, does he manifest signs for you, I bet your answer is no, so the god you claim to follow, whom u never saw is invisible, u follow an invisible god either ur god is dead and is a fake since he nevered talk to you or ur god dont give a shit about you because you of non spirit.

Now let me bear witness to my mighty elohim YHWH, I see my father every day when I look in the mirror for I was made in his image, I hear my father when he talks to me and guide me when im not living right, my father let me hear his voice to let me know he's real and humble me when I doubt him and challenge his authority, my elohim showed me that everything he create is alive by showing me their life signature, showed me by praying, meditation, eating right, drinking water getting the mental, physical and spiritual one level how heighten the senses can be, all that higher vibration u talk about but never experience my elohim showed me when you live righteous and on a higher plane when you break universal law a strong vibration will rattle ur core, thats a higher level.

Now tell us what your god show u, that's right he did nothing because ur god is not with you or dont love u, your god is weak and dead or ignore you, my elohim is great and is alive and is mighty and will crush you and ur gods. I can bear witness of the signs, blessings of mine elohim can u

waterproof · July 2012

that's right boy that called Ether what I just dropped and that ether that had you to bind your tongue, burned your soul, paralyzed your motor skills and crushed your weak spirit is called Truth.

And that truth activate the fight and flight dna, and your coward soul choose the flght that had you to hit the flag button.

Let me tell you something boy. Mentally, intellectually, Physically and Spiritually you are below me and I will crush you.

you dealing with elohim manifested in the flesh

Now boy tell us about your god who name you not know, nevered seen and nevered heard

beenwize · July 2012

^ LMAO wat a joke... i typed one sentence and this retard replies with a TITANgraph of emotional bullshyt. dude u not even worth wasting time on is why i did not reply.

waterproof · July 2012

beenwize wrote: »

^ LMAO wat a joke... i typed one sentence and this retard replies with a TITANgraph of emotional bullshyt. dude u not even worth wasting time on is why i did not reply.

The disciple of lies, u coward that ether burnt and your ass read it and was lurking in the thread for minutes. I seen you lol, then you decided to hit the flag button and lurked some more. What a coward, so are you going to explain why the god u claim to follow never talk to you, never showed u signs and manifested knowledge into reality, and why you never seen your god. Because you said you follow the new testament god that yahushua follows but yahushua follows the elohim YHWH that I follow and YHWH talked to Yahushua and showed signs, and yah talked to me and showed me signs but why not u.

That's because you made ur god up, u try make up a god and try to say yahushua do not worship Yah but the god you
Think he worship to satisfy you, The gall of you, to curse the heavenly father and call him out of his name. And you know you fucked up because when you came back for the third time you said you going to stop talking about Yah (u called him yahweh) because you don't know if he's the real god or not. You wanted to repent but you know deep down you fucked up by cursing the father and there's no coming back again, so u kept cursing the father and try to tell urself that Yah is not yahushua father. U done fucked up bad, I wouldn't take a billion dollars to be in your shoes

beenwize · July 2012

waterproof wrote: »

beenwize wrote: »

^ LMAO wat a joke... i typed one sentence and this retard replies with a TITANgraph of emotional bullshyt. dude u not even worth wasting time on is why i did not reply.

The disciple of lies, u coward that ether burnt and your ass read it and was lurking in the thread for minutes. I seen you lol, then you decided to hit the flag button and lurked some more. What a coward, so are you going to explain why the god u claim to follow never talk to you, never showed u signs and manifested knowledge into reality, and why you never seen your god. Because you said you follow the new testament god that yahushua follows but yahushua follows the elohim YHWH that I follow and YHWH talked to Yahushua and showed signs, and yah talked to me and showed me signs but why not u.

That's because you made ur god up, u try make up a god and try to say yahushua do not worship Yah but the god you
Think he worship to fit satisfy you, The gall of you.

LMAO this dude can't be serious.. Do you even consider that I was online through a cell phone and I did not bother to change the site since I was doing other things? Lol, look how silly u are, a real bitch and retard for real.

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