who thought of this stupid "PG's should only pass" bullshit?

Jeezyfan4ever · July 2012

please, tell me. people use this excuse so much when hating on players like westbrook and rose, yet you dont see pass first PG's leading their team to championships often... aside from magic of course, but he was a freak and you can make an equal argument by saying he wasnt the right size to be a PG, therefor he wasnt a true PG.

Matt- · July 2012

position in the nba are overvalued these days. it really doesn't matter like it used to. the roles aren't the same

CopperKing · July 2012

theres alot of PF and C's that dont rebound like a traditional big man either....its just people (supposed experts) making judgements based on position instead of skill

evoljeanyes · July 2012

I think the roles still matter. Every team needs a facilitator the facilitator should also be able to defend.

The big forward and the two guard are the positions best suited for scoring the rock (running your offense through). But if you run your offense through the center your pf has to rebound and protect the can like centers traditionally do or he needs to hit the three. Hence why Shaq was surrounded by...Horace grant, haslem, and Horry.

Point and small forward are the hardest positions to excel at (small forward is the least talented position in NBA history, but right now the NBA has melo bron and gay)

The reason why I call Kevin Durant a two is because he can't facilitate your offense. Harden technically is there small forward. He facilitates plays d and/or hits threes. (Traditional threes, bron: facilitate defend, bird: facilitate, shoot, Pippen: facilitate, defend) they are also secondary rebounders and the 2nd option as point guard on the court.

Power forwards extend the offense like twos but in a shallower position on the court. Fours should shoot mid range jumpers, be threats to get to the can and rebounder's. Dirk and K. Love as three point shooting 4s make it hard for the shooting guards on their team to excel. Because they crowd their space. (Notice Jordan's fours were always bruisers). Dirk excelled when he started shooting less threes and terry was able to become effective.

Point guards get bad wraps they are allowed to score. They do what needs to be done. But its hard to have the buy bringing it up as your primary scorer. Its easier to defend the team because they become disinterested a lot. Just my thoughts

I Am Jay Pee · July 2012

Exactly these dudes are fake psuedo sports experts....I don't care what credentials a person has. I don't agree with this. Whats the difference lets say Derrick Rose for example of taking it to the rim and getting the bucket and possibly a foul or dishing it off for a bucket. Same difference really unless its a three point bucket....come on now rose was averging 8 assists a game so it ain't really a matter. Just more experts who show they know know nothing about the game they played for or watched their whole life. Its not their fault they have been indoctrinated

greenwood1921 · July 2012

No different from the "QBs should only stay in the pocket" bullshit. Especially when forward passes were once illegal.

A QB just "tucking and running" every play or a PG just gunnin' every possession ain't smart either. But supressing your talent just so people can give you some bullshit stamp of approval is the dumbest shit I've seen within sports.

Whole bunch of QB's and PG's have missed out on alot of winning by trying to just prove something to critics who would find something to hate about them either way.

evoljeanyes · July 2012

Williams Paul Parker, Rondo, Rose and Westbrook all get buckets! Fuck that only pass whit!

Say What · July 2012

I don't want my PG to be the leading scorer & I'm a Bulls fan. I hate that Rose has to carry the team. he can be #2 but he has to work harder than most for the shots. They just don't have the talent

numbaz...80's baby · July 2012

The old farts that's still stuck in 60's. My opinion on the whole thing is do whatever helps your team. If you're a shooting pg and your team is losing, pass the ball sometimes nigga but if it helps your team win, do what you have to do. Chicago wouldn't be shit if D. Rose was a pass first pg. Okc wouldn't be in the finals if Westbrook was the same way. It is what it is.

greenwood1921 · July 2012

What people don't realize is that all the PG's and QB's that "passed well" did that more often because...

...Drumroll please....

That's what they did best.

I can't help but laugh when niggas act like John Stockton or Rajon Rondo could easily average 40 a night if they wanted to. Or Tom Brady and Peyton Manning "choose" to stay in the pocket but they could easily "Vick" defenses if they "felt like it".

Yeah, Stockton and Rondo have had some decent scoring games, and I've even seen Brady and Peyton get chunks of yardage running before, but that's not their natural game. They do what they do 'cause that's the only reason they're stars to begin with.

Jeezyfan4ever · July 2012

the PG position is completely overrated, a team just needs to put together a group of players that compliment each others game

last PG champs

Mario Chalmers old J Kidd Fisher young Rondo

greenwood1921 · July 2012

Jeezyfan4ever wrote: »

the PG position is completely overrated, a team just needs to put together a group of players that compliment each others game

last PG champs

Mario Chalmers old J Kidd Fisher young Rondo

Well damn @ the bold.

ghost! · July 2012

Who says that? What sports town are either of you in that says a pg should only pass? PGs runs the team, no they shouldn't b a shoot first guard cuz they have the ball in their hands 90% of the time. But they can look 4 their offense too.

And what person said T.Brady n P.Manning can M.Vick at anytime? ??

M.Vick can't even M.Vick! QBs can run, but its smarter to stay in the pocket. Ask M.Vick that.

And you can still b mobile in the pocket. U don't have to take off running. LBs hit hard!!

peagle05 · July 2012

greenwood1921 wrote: »

No different from the "QBs should only stay in the pocket" bullshit. Especially when forward passes were once illegal.

A QB just "tucking and running" every play or a PG just gunnin' every possession ain't smart either. But supressing your talent just so people can give you some bullshit stamp of approval is the dumbest shit I've seen within sports.

Whole bunch of QB's and PG's have missed out on alot of winning by trying to just prove something to critics who would find something to hate about them either way.

smh first hand experience of that

Inglewood_B · July 2012

somehow i knew ghost's post would be the worst in this thread

texasdaking88 · July 2012

Idk, I was gonna say white people.. I have my reason but I'm @ work so I'll come back wit it n a lil bit

greenwood1921 · July 2012

texasdaking88 wrote: »

Idk, I was gonna say white people.. I have my reason but I'm @ work so I'll come back wit it n a lil bit

@ the bold

Stopitfive · July 2012

the game is better when we have traditional point guards... someone has to handle the rock, run plays, create situations, get ppl involved, etc...

rage · July 2012

A) A PG who strictly passes is as useless as a PG who jacks up 25 shots a game. A PG is a facilitator...a good PG should be averaging 15-20 pts and 8 to 10 asts a game.

B) Which clowns have ever suggested that Brady or Manning could do what Vick does outside of the pocket. I straight up have NEVER EVER heard that.

MR.CJ · July 2012

im not saying his name but that white dude on espn 2

c1up · July 2012

as long as the pg is looking to involve his or her team before he looks to score first then he or she is good

R.D. · July 2012

I dont think there's anybody who's ever said PG should ONLY pass so T/S made a thread opposing a idea noone conforms to

But if you wanna sit here and debate that a PG is not responsible for running a team and shouldn't look for the team first, i think its fair to say that you lack bball IQ

texasdaking88 · July 2012

Well, ill say unathletic white people..

texasdaking88 · July 2012

@greenwood.. thats kinda the point i was gonna make.. when did it become the only way to play the qb position by standing in the pocket?? When bigger stronger faster black athletes start showing they could play that shit too.. but nobody was saying that shit when fran tarketen and other running white qbs were playing.. they just talk about how good they could improvise..lol.. same thing with bball.. and baseball too.. but baseball is too international(in the non white countries) so aint shit they can do with that

CopperKing · July 2012

if there was a WTF button I would have pressed it on Ghost ...

G Mack · July 2012

Yes this is a very big racial issue...c/s to the fullest

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