Da Official True Blood Season 5 Thread

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  • jaxnjaxn Posts: 760
    jaxn wrote: »
    jaxn wrote: »
    jaxn wrote: »
    good call on Lilith possibly being an ancient fairy/vampire hybrid..Wouldn't Russell know that its fairy blood as well? Maybe that's why he doesn't give a shit
    You see how bill keeps seeing sookie andd then lilith after he bit her? Your right about them acting all loopy too. What else makes vampires all loopy and devoted.......? Like I said, salome and russel are old as fuck so I'm pretty sure there's not too much they haven't seen or experienced. You can tell russel knows something is up by his sudden change of heart lol. Even now russel is sowing hints of "just playing ball". He hates the authority and the anti authority group. Russel figured it out and bill just figured it out when he bit salome. Eric was fucked up from that witches spell when he killed sookies fairy god mother so he hasn't caught on yet.

    And salome set all this shit up. As soon as nora said salome used to sneak her in the blood room that aslo gave salome away. I really think bill peeped salome's ways because she's a lot like lorana. That's where that line about knowing women like her that want nothing but power came from.

    jaxn wrote: »
    good call on Lilith possibly being an ancient fairy/vampire hybrid..Wouldn't Russell know that its fairy blood as well? Maybe that's why he doesn't give a shit

    I'm thinking Lilith might not exist at all. If you believe Eric, she was just a hallucination.

    Lilith could have existed but she probably wasn't a vampire at all. She probably was a fairy that got turned into a vamp or some shit. But yeah, that's definitely not vampire blood.

    and perhaps this is the reason why the fairies fear vampires so much..perhaps Lillith was one of the first fairies that was attacked or turned into a vampire

    No, they've already explained why fairies fear vampires so much. Fairy blood is like a drug to vampires. They pretty much do anything to get it. As a result vampires damn near hunted faires to extinction. Hence, why the fairies were trying to round up everyone with their blood and take them away from the normal realm and away from vampires.

    yes, this is the point i'm making. it possibly began when an ancient vampire got ahold of an ancient fairy, which could've been Lillith. How else would they know how a fairy tastes

    I'm just saying the whole Lilith connection you're making is a leap. At some point the fairies frequented the normal realm. Vampires can smell them very easily and hunted them down. Fairies fled to another realm to avoid the vamps. Lilith doesn't really fit into that at all. And even if she is a vampirized fairy, she's still not the reason the fairies left. At least not based on what we know to this point.

    I fail to see how it's a leap when your very argument fits into exactly what i'm saying..there are ancient vampires and fairies..how would a vampire know what a fairy taste like if they didn't encounter them in the past? the thing is, the only thing we know about fae leaving is that vampires were draining them...this could've began millenium ago based on ancient vampires interacting witht he fae. For all we know, Lillith could've been an ancient fairy that was hunted by vampires and turned..i guess we'll find out in a couple of eps anyway
  • jaxnjaxn Posts: 760
    All I want to know is what the fuck was the point of the coroner dude popping up at sookies door and biting her?

    What the fuck is up with russel's accent switching up when he gets mad? He sounded irish and then he sounded german.

    LOL at all the minor characters getting killed off every episode. True blood series must be about to come to an end soon. next season will probably be the last.

    R.I.P

    Former Sharif
    weird coroner dude
    goodby hoyt (He didn't technically die but he might as well be dead lol what a pussy)
    random rednecks
    shifters
    roman
    Chancellor Dieter
    Chancellor Alexander

    A few others I'm missing.



    That's Russell's natural accent.
  • jaxn wrote: »
    jaxn wrote: »
    jaxn wrote: »
    jaxn wrote: »
    good call on Lilith possibly being an ancient fairy/vampire hybrid..Wouldn't Russell know that its fairy blood as well? Maybe that's why he doesn't give a shit
    You see how bill keeps seeing sookie andd then lilith after he bit her? Your right about them acting all loopy too. What else makes vampires all loopy and devoted.......? Like I said, salome and russel are old as fuck so I'm pretty sure there's not too much they haven't seen or experienced. You can tell russel knows something is up by his sudden change of heart lol. Even now russel is sowing hints of "just playing ball". He hates the authority and the anti authority group. Russel figured it out and bill just figured it out when he bit salome. Eric was fucked up from that witches spell when he killed sookies fairy god mother so he hasn't caught on yet.

    And salome set all this shit up. As soon as nora said salome used to sneak her in the blood room that aslo gave salome away. I really think bill peeped salome's ways because she's a lot like lorana. That's where that line about knowing women like her that want nothing but power came from.

    jaxn wrote: »
    good call on Lilith possibly being an ancient fairy/vampire hybrid..Wouldn't Russell know that its fairy blood as well? Maybe that's why he doesn't give a shit

    I'm thinking Lilith might not exist at all. If you believe Eric, she was just a hallucination.

    Lilith could have existed but she probably wasn't a vampire at all. She probably was a fairy that got turned into a vamp or some shit. But yeah, that's definitely not vampire blood.

    and perhaps this is the reason why the fairies fear vampires so much..perhaps Lillith was one of the first fairies that was attacked or turned into a vampire

    No, they've already explained why fairies fear vampires so much. Fairy blood is like a drug to vampires. They pretty much do anything to get it. As a result vampires damn near hunted faires to extinction. Hence, why the fairies were trying to round up everyone with their blood and take them away from the normal realm and away from vampires.

    yes, this is the point i'm making. it possibly began when an ancient vampire got ahold of an ancient fairy, which could've been Lillith. How else would they know how a fairy tastes

    I'm just saying the whole Lilith connection you're making is a leap. At some point the fairies frequented the normal realm. Vampires can smell them very easily and hunted them down. Fairies fled to another realm to avoid the vamps. Lilith doesn't really fit into that at all. And even if she is a vampirized fairy, she's still not the reason the fairies left. At least not based on what we know to this point.

    I fail to see how it's a leap when your very argument fits into exactly what i'm saying..there are ancient vampires and fairies..how would a vampire know what a fairy taste like if they didn't encounter them in the past? the thing is, the only thing we know about fae leaving is that vampires were draining them...this could've began millenium ago based on ancient vampires interacting witht he fae. For all we know, Lillith could've been an ancient fairy that was hunted by vampires and turned..i guess we'll find out in a couple of eps anyway

    I'm not saying that it is a leap that vampires and fairies had contact in the distant past. I'm saying that tying Lilith into that is a leap. There is nothing that really suggests she had anything to do with Fairies at all. And her existence isn't needed for fairies to be scared of vamps considering it's already confirmed that vamps were responsible for hunting them to near extinction.
  • Will MunnyWill Munny Posts: 17,533
    I think Bill really is gone. I don't think Eric is buying into the shit at all, he's just a broken man right now and resigned himself to his fate.
  • Will Munny wrote: »
    I think Bill really is gone. I don't think Eric is buying into the shit at all, he's just a broken man right now and resigned himself to his fate.

    Eric always scheming....he just buying his time right now. Bill gone snap out of that shit tho...u see both of their faces as soon as Russel said fairy blood.....both of em was like "Sookie!!" in they head. LOL. Its gone be Eric that save everybody tho IMO and with Luna & Sam trapped in the Authority HQ...they gonna end up helping him too. I think Luna dies in the effort tho...
  • Will MunnyWill Munny Posts: 17,533
    Sam gonna be a daddy if Luna dies though. I can see that happening.

    Bill is a faggot. He's always just been out for himself.
  • And judging off the preview for the last 2 ep....Bill falling deeper into insanity and probably gone OD off that Lilith blood.
    Will Munny wrote: »
    I think Bill really is gone.
    At first he was until he bit salome and that's when he snapped out of it. He felt some kind of way when he killed that girl. He went to go look at that security camera after he gave eric and nora that blood. He tripped out when russel talked about fairies and he obviously saved eric's life.

    On some other shit though, I think russel knew eric was bull shitting. Eric got that look after russel said he chose the right path or something like that. Meaning that alone he wouldn't be any match for russel and siding with the authority was the best choice.

    jaxn wrote: »
    All I want to know is what the fuck was the point of the coroner dude popping up at sookies door and biting her?

    What the fuck is up with russel's accent switching up when he gets mad? He sounded irish and then he sounded german.

    LOL at all the minor characters getting killed off every episode. True blood series must be about to come to an end soon. next season will probably be the last.

    R.I.P

    Former Sharif
    weird coroner dude
    goodby hoyt (He didn't technically die but he might as well be dead lol what a pussy)
    random rednecks
    shifters
    roman
    Chancellor Dieter
    Chancellor Alexander

    A few others I'm missing.



    That's Russell's natural accent.
    Naaaw bruh, go back and pay attention. I've noticed this since he was first introduced. When he's calm he has this deep southern draw. When he gets pissed he takes on several dialects. So far I've heard him sound light weight irish, swedish, and german. You really haven't noticed this?

    Here's one example of his dialect changing up.



  • major painmajor pain Posts: 8,866
    I'm pretty sure his southern accent is the 'put on' one. When he gets amped.. he naturally reverts back to his real accent.

    Something tells me Warlo is a vamp we already know.. since they hid his face. For no reason at all I'm thinking Bill.
    Lord_Hades_08
  • 7_rolls_royces7_rolls_royces Posts: 2,880
    edited August 2012
    major pain wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure his southern accent is the 'put on' one. When he gets amped.. he naturally reverts back to his real accent.

    Something tells me Warlo is a vamp we already know.. since they hid his face. For no reason at all I'm thinking Bill.
    When he was talking about manufacturing fairy blood that was a whole new accent. He just jumped right out of the southern draw.

    It can't be bill because that has been his name since forever. plus sophie ann sent bill to investigate her family tree. Also that deal that was made to give up the first female born fairy was made 200 years ago. Bill is only like 170 years old and was turned like in his early 30's. It got to be a vamp that's 200 years or older. They're gonna revile it on the last episode as cliff hanger I bet.

    At first I thought russel could be warlow because russel is not his original name. But then when russel first bit sookie, saw her powers and went crazy that showed me that he never has encountered a fairy. Russel also stated that day walking was a legend. Now russel is 3,000 years old so whenever the vamps were killing the fairies it had to be long before russel's time.


  • darkraindarkrain Posts: 2,128
    This show is just the world's biggest hot mess, and the continuity errors are staring to make me bonkers. The first thing I really do not understand is the role of the Authority. It used to seem like the Authority was a very large organization with key players at the state, local and national levels. Is that the case? If so, why do we only ever see like four people in a room. Shouldn't there be more representatives than just a few people from Louisiana? Doesn't every state have kings, queens and sherrifs that should be weighing in here? And what about other countries?

    Or are we only seeing the Authority of Louisiana, and have they gone rogue from the International Authority that is still supporting mainstreaming?

    I also thought that the AVL and the Authority were two separate groups, with the AVL handling American vampire politics and human relations, and the Authority just being responsible for enforcing inter-vamp laws?

    Not to mention, if you go back to early seasons, there were always "sanguinistas" in the Authority. Heck, Bill was forced to make Jessica by some sherrif who kept railing on about how Sookie shouldn't matter to Bill because she was just food anyway.

    None of this makes sense!

    Also, if Bill and Eric are just faking this all until they figure a way out, the show has done a terrible job of that. Because I won't be surprised either way. There will be no "shocking" reveal in one of these final episodes, it will be "oh, guess Bill was faking, pretty obvious" or "oh, guess Bill really was a Lillith follower, pretty lame. Yawn."

    I LOVE RUSSELL.
    RawAce
  • Will MunnyWill Munny Posts: 17,533
    edited August 2012
    darkrain wrote: »
    This show is just the world's biggest hot mess, and the continuity errors are staring to make me bonkers. The first thing I really do not understand is the role of the Authority. It used to seem like the Authority was a very large organization with key players at the state, local and national levels. Is that the case? If so, why do we only ever see like four people in a room. Shouldn't there be more representatives than just a few people from Louisiana? Doesn't every state have kings, queens and sherrifs that should be weighing in here? And what about other countries?

    Or are we only seeing the Authority of Louisiana, and have they gone rogue from the International Authority that is still supporting mainstreaming?

    I also thought that the AVL and the Authority were two separate groups, with the AVL handling American vampire politics and human relations, and the Authority just being responsible for enforcing inter-vamp laws?

    Not to mention, if you go back to early seasons, there were always "sanguinistas" in the Authority. Heck, Bill was forced to make Jessica by some sherrif who kept railing on about how Sookie shouldn't matter to Bill because she was just food anyway.

    None of this makes sense!

    Also, if Bill and Eric are just faking this all until they figure a way out, the show has done a terrible job of that. Because I won't be surprised either way. There will be no "shocking" reveal in one of these final episodes, it will be "oh, guess Bill was faking, pretty obvious" or "oh, guess Bill really was a Lillith follower, pretty lame. Yawn."

    I LOVE RUSSELL.

    Thats why I watch this show soley for the babes and entertainment.

    I'd hate to see you get started on season 4 if this is how much criticism about season 5 lol
    7_rolls_royces
  • RawAceRawAce Posts: 1,829
    Luna's titties is the best thing on this show
    smh,
    how far this show has fallen

  • lamontbdclamontbdc Posts: 13,357
    S.jR. wrote: »
    So Bill think he Neo now?

    i thought it was just me but some reason i thought i was watching the matrix
  • inthacutinthacut Posts: 953
    lol @ ya'll doubting bill, he is up to something. imo selling out eric and suggesting the bombings was to gain the trust of the others. russell tripping out probably threw a wrench in them plans.

    I gotta slow clap Tara....i like where her character is going, emotionally. plus she highlandered that mofo, how could you not appreciate that?

    Hoyt, was a momma's boy, it doesnt surprise me that he needed jessica to do that.

    Main thing i liked about that ep, Russell G'd up and is back to being that dude.
  • Will MunnyWill Munny Posts: 17,533
    Okay so does anyone know why it was such a revelation that they said sookie was the first fairy hoe?
  • jaxnjaxn Posts: 760
    I think its moreso a reveal to Sookie since I guess she figured there would be more female fairies before she came along. But apparently she was the first female fairy to be born since the deal was made between her great great great great grandfather and Warlow
  • jaxnjaxn Posts: 760
    jaxn wrote: »
    jaxn wrote: »
    jaxn wrote: »
    jaxn wrote: »
    good call on Lilith possibly being an ancient fairy/vampire hybrid..Wouldn't Russell know that its fairy blood as well? Maybe that's why he doesn't give a shit
    You see how bill keeps seeing sookie andd then lilith after he bit her? Your right about them acting all loopy too. What else makes vampires all loopy and devoted.......? Like I said, salome and russel are old as fuck so I'm pretty sure there's not too much they haven't seen or experienced. You can tell russel knows something is up by his sudden change of heart lol. Even now russel is sowing hints of "just playing ball". He hates the authority and the anti authority group. Russel figured it out and bill just figured it out when he bit salome. Eric was fucked up from that witches spell when he killed sookies fairy god mother so he hasn't caught on yet.

    And salome set all this shit up. As soon as nora said salome used to sneak her in the blood room that aslo gave salome away. I really think bill peeped salome's ways because she's a lot like lorana. That's where that line about knowing women like her that want nothing but power came from.

    jaxn wrote: »
    good call on Lilith possibly being an ancient fairy/vampire hybrid..Wouldn't Russell know that its fairy blood as well? Maybe that's why he doesn't give a shit

    I'm thinking Lilith might not exist at all. If you believe Eric, she was just a hallucination.

    Lilith could have existed but she probably wasn't a vampire at all. She probably was a fairy that got turned into a vamp or some shit. But yeah, that's definitely not vampire blood.

    and perhaps this is the reason why the fairies fear vampires so much..perhaps Lillith was one of the first fairies that was attacked or turned into a vampire

    No, they've already explained why fairies fear vampires so much. Fairy blood is like a drug to vampires. They pretty much do anything to get it. As a result vampires damn near hunted faires to extinction. Hence, why the fairies were trying to round up everyone with their blood and take them away from the normal realm and away from vampires.

    yes, this is the point i'm making. it possibly began when an ancient vampire got ahold of an ancient fairy, which could've been Lillith. How else would they know how a fairy tastes

    I'm just saying the whole Lilith connection you're making is a leap. At some point the fairies frequented the normal realm. Vampires can smell them very easily and hunted them down. Fairies fled to another realm to avoid the vamps. Lilith doesn't really fit into that at all. And even if she is a vampirized fairy, she's still not the reason the fairies left. At least not based on what we know to this point.

    I fail to see how it's a leap when your very argument fits into exactly what i'm saying..there are ancient vampires and fairies..how would a vampire know what a fairy taste like if they didn't encounter them in the past? the thing is, the only thing we know about fae leaving is that vampires were draining them...this could've began millenium ago based on ancient vampires interacting witht he fae. For all we know, Lillith could've been an ancient fairy that was hunted by vampires and turned..i guess we'll find out in a couple of eps anyway

    I'm not saying that it is a leap that vampires and fairies had contact in the distant past. I'm saying that tying Lilith into that is a leap. There is nothing that really suggests she had anything to do with Fairies at all. And her existence isn't needed for fairies to be scared of vamps considering it's already confirmed that vamps were responsible for hunting them to near extinction.

    again, i'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say since everything you're saying is tying into what i originally said...at what point did the Vamps begin hunting Fae, since we haven't really seen that happening on the show..like someone else mentioned, even Russell, a 3000 year old vamp didn't know what Sookie was..Its all just speculation regardless, but Lillith could've been an ancient fairy, as in much older than Russell and this was the age when Vamps hunted them down.
  • jaxnjaxn Posts: 760
    Will Munny wrote: »
    I think Bill really is gone. I don't think Eric is buying into the shit at all, he's just a broken man right now and resigned himself to his fate.

    I think Eric is playing the game and I believe his sister has now come to her senses after seeing Godric.
  • jaxnjaxn Posts: 760
    And judging off the preview for the last 2 ep....Bill falling deeper into insanity and probably gone OD off that Lilith blood.
    Will Munny wrote: »
    I think Bill really is gone.
    At first he was until he bit salome and that's when he snapped out of it. He felt some kind of way when he killed that girl. He went to go look at that security camera after he gave eric and nora that blood. He tripped out when russel talked about fairies and he obviously saved eric's life.

    On some other shit though, I think russel knew eric was bull shitting. Eric got that look after russel said he chose the right path or something like that. Meaning that alone he wouldn't be any match for russel and siding with the authority was the best choice.

    jaxn wrote: »
    All I want to know is what the fuck was the point of the coroner dude popping up at sookies door and biting her?

    What the fuck is up with russel's accent switching up when he gets mad? He sounded irish and then he sounded german.

    LOL at all the minor characters getting killed off every episode. True blood series must be about to come to an end soon. next season will probably be the last.

    R.I.P

    Former Sharif
    weird coroner dude
    goodby hoyt (He didn't technically die but he might as well be dead lol what a pussy)
    random rednecks
    shifters
    roman
    Chancellor Dieter
    Chancellor Alexander

    A few others I'm missing.



    That's Russell's natural accent.
    Naaaw bruh, go back and pay attention. I've noticed this since he was first introduced. When he's calm he has this deep southern draw. When he gets pissed he takes on several dialects. So far I've heard him sound light weight irish, swedish, and german. You really haven't noticed this?

    Here's one example of his dialect changing up.



    yes that what i'm saying..his southern accent is a front..he was using his real accent when stating his age and superiority to the other vamps..I would imagine Eric is the same..he's using a fake accent now but he was a viking.
  • Will MunnyWill Munny Posts: 17,533
    okay so the reason I think Bill is too far gone is cause he said "praise lilith" when he was watching eric and nora when they were trippin.
  • Will MunnyWill Munny Posts: 17,533
    But yeah this show is a mess. How is Newlin out winning debates when literally 3 days earlier an entire wedding party was killed by vampires.
  • darkrain wrote: »
    This show is just the world's biggest hot mess, and the continuity errors are staring to make me bonkers. The first thing I really do not understand is the role of the Authority. It used to seem like the Authority was a very large organization with key players at the state, local and national levels. Is that the case? If so, why do we only ever see like four people in a room. Shouldn't there be more representatives than just a few people from Louisiana? Doesn't every state have kings, queens and sherrifs that should be weighing in here? And what about other countries? Or are we only seeing the Authority of Louisiana, and have they gone rogue from the International Authority that is still supporting mainstreaming?

    The Authority is still that big, but all those kings, queens, and sheriffs are back in their realms handling business. Remember, that guy that Tara killed was the new Sheriff of Louisiana. The people we keep seeing are like the high council of the Authority. It's no different from any other corporate structure. Sure you got managers, district managers, regional managers, but at the end of the day there is always a board with a few important people that makes most of the big decisions. That's who we've been seeing.
    I also thought that the AVL and the Authority were two separate groups, with the AVL handling American vampire politics and human relations, and the Authority just being responsible for enforcing inter-vamp laws?

    No the AVL was always part of the Authority. Remember, the chick that ran the AVL reported directly to Roman.
    Not to mention, if you go back to early seasons, there were always "sanguinistas" in the Authority. Heck, Bill was forced to make Jessica by some sherrif who kept railing on about how Sookie shouldn't matter to Bill because she was just food anyway.

    None of this makes sense!

    Where is the discrepancy here? At no point in this season have they said that Sanguinista plants are new to the Authority. What was new was finding out that the Sangunistas had infiltrated the council.
    Also, if Bill and Eric are just faking this all until they figure a way out, the show has done a terrible job of that. Because I won't be surprised either way. There will be no "shocking" reveal in one of these final episodes, it will be "oh, guess Bill was faking, pretty obvious" or "oh, guess Bill really was a Lillith follower, pretty lame. Yawn."

    I think this is just more of you anticipating that conclusion than anything the show has done wrong. We're supposed to know Eric doesn't buy into it. That's been revealed to us clearly. With Bill, we're not supposed to know what he's thinking for sure, and we don't. You can suspect he's just faking, but there hasn't been anything to clearly give that away yet.
    Will Munny wrote: »
    Okay so does anyone know why it was such a revelation that they said sookie was the first fairy hoe?

    It was nothing that significant. They were just saying she was the first female in that bloodline to exhibit fairy characterstics since the deal was made. In other words, she is who was promised to Warlow and he really was only trying to collect on what was owed to him.
  • lamontbdclamontbdc Posts: 13,357
    Will Munny wrote: »
    Okay so does anyone know why it was such a revelation that they said sookie was the first fairy hoe?

    i guess whoever this warlow dude is know owns her. It said that her grandfather or great great grandfather promised the 1st born female fairy to Warlow. Though i'm not sure why Sookie's mother wouldn't count but sookie would
  • jaxnjaxn Posts: 760
    I assume Sookie's mom never manifested the abilities, like Jason
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