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Lets Be Honest Dre. Beat is now just a Brand Name for interscope hiphop beats...
13 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2008 - 2:55PM #1
Soloman AKA Fazeem Vernacular Insurgent
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Like a lot of brands Dre does not create dope beats he coordinates what others created with the proper artist, then gives stamp of approval. Even his most aclaimed album the original Chronic was made up mostly of beats created by Warren G and Daz. He has become a stamp for Interscope that they use when they hear something Hot and over the years 90% of things he is credited for were in actuality created by other artists. He has the oldest and dustest shelf of artists in hip hop, which is why so many have left like  Ice Cube, Rakim, Busta, Hitman, etc.. There are real legitmate beatmakers that actually make all the dope beats they are credited(Kanye, Pharrel, BattleKat, Alchmist, etc) with so why is everyone so surprised that No real aftermath artist come out and that detox is always in Limbo???

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13 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2008 - 3:09PM #2
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sir, prepare for the IC stan army

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13 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2008 - 3:51PM #3
Soloman AKA Fazeem Vernacular Insurgent
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Nov 8, 2008 -- 3:09PM, god damnet im fly wrote:


sir, prepare for the IC stan army



I hate that word Stan, but I am prepped, so will it be the Eminem fanatics, The 50 toy soldiers, Or the Game Lovers, who comes 1st?

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13 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2008 - 3:56PM #4
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Nov 8, 2008 -- 2:55PM, Soloman AKA Fazeem Vernacular Insurgent wrote:


Like a lot of brands Dre does not create dope beats he coordinates what others created with the proper artist, then gives stamp of approval. Even his most aclaimed album the original Chronic was made up mostly of beats created by Warren G and Daz. He has become a stamp for Interscope that they use when they hear something Hot and over the years 90% of things he is credited for were in actuality created by other artists. He has the oldest and dustest shelf of artists in hip hop, which is why so many have left like  Ice Cube, Rakim, Busta, Hitman, etc.. There are real legitmate beatmakers that actually make all the dope beats they are credited(Kanye, Pharrel, BattleKat, Alchmist, etc) with so why is everyone so surprised that No real aftermath artist come out and that detox is always in Limbo???




I'm probably the biggest Dr. Dre fan of all time but I still see where you're coming from with this so I gotta co-sign.


 


Dre's still the shit IMO but he needs to get his head up out his ass already. He's damaging his legacy.


 


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13 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2008 - 4:07PM #5
HLF
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How come none of those producers ever put out classic albums? Or brought out superstars?


 


And most of those artist left because of Jimmy Iovine not Dre. Ice Cube was never under Dre

13 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2008 - 4:13PM #6
The 12th Letter
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Nov 8, 2008 -- 4:07PM, HLF wrote:


How come none of those producers ever put out classic albums? Or brought out superstars?




damn, whats that album that came out a couple of years ago?... umm, oh yeah... college dropout? ye has already proven himself... and alchemists album (1st infantry) was dope too, but it didnt get mainstream light... i see what youre saying, but dre only put out 2 solo albums his entire life, and he has a career spanning about 20 something years... the fact that even though you got other people doing beats for you and you still cant come out with an album is not a good look on your resume

13 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2008 - 4:20PM #7
Soloman AKA Fazeem Vernacular Insurgent
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Nov 8, 2008 -- 4:07PM, HLF wrote:


How come none of those producers ever put out classic albums? Or brought out superstars?


 


And most of those artist left because of Jimmy Iovine not Dre. Ice Cube was never under Dre



Get up on your knowledge a few years back Cube was going to put out a Dre produced Album on aftermath but Dre was bullshitting and then Cube made a album elsewhere and we were Blessed with War and Peace. As too the many other artsists that left they all gave almost the same lines about Dre was to busy did not have time was not involved blah blah blah. Come back to the table when you you know what your talking about...

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I am a predator, mentally ahead of my time, You know with each rhyme, Down for my Crime, Grime is what I live in, Life is unforgiven, My mission Dismissing, all competion still wishing, that they could do Like me, Be born to life a G, Send me to the cemetary or the penitentiary, But you Faggots act Scary,In the closet like a fairy, When its time to Body Bury, more blood then Virgin Cherry, Never Seen all Black, Word Play of a mack, Keep my shit exact, Attack and Destroy a crule Fact I employ...
13 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2008 - 4:35PM #8
HLF
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First of all College Dropout is not a classic and will never be compared to either Chronic or 2001. Hell even he said himself that he BIT DRE'S DRUMS TO GET HIS SHIT STARTED. Alchemist? Nigga please


 


lol @ people thinking you know what the hell goes on at Interscope. Rakim says it was creative differences(Not Dres fault), Busta says Interscope was trippin(still cool wit Dre), Ice Cube was never signed to Aftermath, Obie Trice(Shady artist dropped,says interscope was trippin). You people do know that Jimmy Iovine runs the show, not Dre right?


 


Im gonna ask this question one time. Does anybody have any facts that Dre steals other peoples beats outside of using quotes from bitter artist that never made it?

13 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2008 - 4:43PM #9
Diggin In The Crates
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Warren G has a classic album.. I always liked Warren G over Dre

13 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2008 - 4:45PM #10
King Legend
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Nov 8, 2008 -- 4:13PM, The 12th Letter wrote:


Nov 8, 2008 -- 4:07PM, HLF wrote:


How come none of those producers ever put out classic albums? Or brought out superstars?




damn, whats that album that came out a couple of years ago?... umm, oh yeah... college dropout? ye has already proven himself... and alchemists album (1st infantry) was dope too, but it didnt get mainstream light... i see what youre saying, but dre only put out 2 solo albums his entire life, and he has a career spanning about 20 something years... the fact that even though you got other people doing beats for you and you still cant come out with an album is not a good look on your resume




Dont forget to add this nigga uses a bunch of ghostwriters.  He overrated, the west coast equivalent of Diddy.

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