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6 months ago  ::  Jan 12, 2009 - 9:39PM #1
The True Flesh
Posts: 673

Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?   1 Corinthians 1:20




I keep seeing these posts that acknowledge the great posters of the IC.


Well, I'm here to issue a challenge to those self-proclaimed wise teachers that are so


revered. It is my assertion that the Bible is true and mans' science is thoroughly flawed.


You have these posters that everyone is so impressed with in terms of their knowledge,


well now is the time for them to show and prove. If they choose to ignore this post I'll take


it as a surrender to my assertion.......no lurking, you know who you are, those people who


constantly try to discredit the Bible. Call them wise no more, if they can't answer a few simple questions.


 


This is it, I'm raining on your parade in the name of the Lord.......


 


The so-called scientific community claims that the earth is billions of years old, this is put fourth


as a tested fact, however the theory of the billion years old earth was developed and honed


prior to the 20th century (when there was no real technology to test anything) yet this early


crude methodology is the standard for what is believed today, it makes no sense. Therefore in simple terms


no cut and paste jobs (on my part at least)  I will refute these claims and expose not only the so-called


intellegent posters of the IC but the scientific community in general starting with one simple question


 


 


With regards to the layers of the earth (the geological column) which the old earth theory revolves around:


 


What caused each layer to cease forming and the next layer to begin forming?


 


 


That's it, one question, for all the scientific intellectuals of the IC


Everybody thinks your so wise then this should be an easy one.


Let the games begin, I'm only one man, this is your chance to silence


a Bible believer and show that your right and the Bible is wrong, and all you have


to do is answer the above question.


 


 


PEACE


 


 

6 months ago  ::  Jan 12, 2009 - 8:55PM #2
Memp ☥ is
Posts: 9891

Does carbon dating, or many of the otehr means of dating not mean anything to you. I"m not claming to be an expert. but corobaration without collabaration exists in many ways. Archeologogical record should be enought ot convince you that the world is older than 6000 years old, if that is what your getting at. And since when did science negate the existence of God


 


If I find one contradiction or misake in the bible then you have to admit hte bible is not the truth?

He who commits injustice is ever made more wretched than he who suffers it. - Plato

Democracy... is a charming form of government, full of variety and disorder; and dispensing a sort of equality to equals and unequals alike.

Violence as a way of achieving racial justice is both impractical and immoral. It is impractical because it is a descending spiral ending in destruction for all. The old law of an eye for an eye leaves everybody blind. It is immoral because it seeks to humiliate the opponent rather than win his understanding; it seeks to annihilate rather than to convert. Violence is immoral because it thrives on hatred rather than love. It destroys a community and makes brotherhood impossible. It leaves society in monologue rather than dialogue. Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in the survivors and brutality in the destroyers. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr

I hope that after I die, people will say of me: "That guy sure owed me a lot of money."
6 months ago  ::  Jan 12, 2009 - 9:11PM #3
juswest06
Posts: 7024

Lemme ask this question. Can you prove the claims made in the bible without using the bible as a source?? If not well then click your heels and go home.

Check out my cousin on HBO'S the Blacklist. He's at the end. And also listen as I get name dropped on HBO
http://www.hbo.com/docs/programs/blacklistv2/video.html

“Sir, you are not the voice of this generation of this decade. In fact with all the auto-tuning on your records, you’re barely the voice of your own albums.

“You want to be the voice of a generation, get in line. It goes - Me, Obama girl, the freecreditreport.com guys, then it’s a tie between you and Crocs.”
Stephen Colbert

“I hated every minute of training, but I said, ''Don't quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.''”
Muhammad Ali

Love takes up where knowledge leaves off.
Saint Thomas Aquinas
6 months ago  ::  Jan 12, 2009 - 9:17PM #4
Lebanon
Posts: 4828

What i would like to add is that just because humans don't have the answer to something now doesn't mean the bible or any religion is automatically right or that god exist.


 


We didn't know many things even just 50 years ago, we learn and discover everyday.  You can't use our ignorance on certain matters as proof that the bible is right.  Even if the bible may say some correct things still doesn't mean anything, there were very smart people back in the days as well, the fact that they may have discovered something or knew how something developed doesn't prove anything besides that matter.

"I am a black South African, and if I were to change the names, a description of what is happening in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank could describe events in South Africa."

-Archbishop Desmond Tutu

Victory to the Resistance in Lebanon, Palestine, Iraq, Somalia and Afghanistan.

Prosecute the US government for it's genocide against Vietnam and Cambodia. 

Ho Chi Minh showed us how to win, now let us unite and do it again.

RIP Sean Bell.
6 months ago  ::  Jan 12, 2009 - 10:11PM #5
The True Flesh
Posts: 673

Jan 12, 2009 -- 8:55PM, Memp ☥ is wrote:


Does carbon dating, or many of the otehr means of dating not mean anything to you. I"m not claming to be an expert. but corobaration without collabaration exists in many ways. Archeologogical record should be enought ot convince you that the world is older than 6000 years old, if that is what your getting at. And since when did science negate the existence of God


 


If I find one contradiction or misake in the bible then you have to admit hte bible is not the truth?




 


Before I can show "what I'm getting at" someone will have to answer the million dollar question,


or should I say the billion year question, only then can i tie it all together and address the inquiries


about dating methods and what not. I'm sure someone feels confident enough in their understanding


of science to take a stab at it.


 


 


PEACE


 


 

6 months ago  ::  Jan 12, 2009 - 9:24PM #6
ObnoxiouslyFresh
Posts: 6349
Im my favorite atheist poster.   : D

Anyways, your premise is all wrong. Good day!
Live. Love. Laugh.
6 months ago  ::  Jan 12, 2009 - 9:31PM #7
juswest06
Posts: 7024

again.If you plan to use the bible as the source or biblical teachings from biblical scholars please delete this thread. It's no different than somebody doing it from the opposite viewpoint. They'll have just as much evidence as you. It's pointless. Neither side knows for certain with fact. Simply what you believe to be true. What you want to be true. I wish people would concede such a point already and shit the fuck up.

Check out my cousin on HBO'S the Blacklist. He's at the end. And also listen as I get name dropped on HBO
http://www.hbo.com/docs/programs/blacklistv2/video.html

“Sir, you are not the voice of this generation of this decade. In fact with all the auto-tuning on your records, you’re barely the voice of your own albums.

“You want to be the voice of a generation, get in line. It goes - Me, Obama girl, the freecreditreport.com guys, then it’s a tie between you and Crocs.”
Stephen Colbert

“I hated every minute of training, but I said, ''Don't quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.''”
Muhammad Ali

Love takes up where knowledge leaves off.
Saint Thomas Aquinas
6 months ago  ::  Jan 12, 2009 - 10:23PM #8
The True Flesh
Posts: 673

Just as I suspected, everybody has an opinion but is avoiding the question.


That is why I said GET YOUR WISEST POSTERS!!!!!!!


until someone attempts to answer that one simple question


you are all doing a dis-service to yourselves by pontificating and


avoiding it. The posters you so much admire need to step up.


 


PEACE

6 months ago  ::  Jan 12, 2009 - 10:36PM #9
Reppin Da Swanganest
Posts: 7372

These threads are always like watching a bunch of 80 year olds talk about rap.  Why don't you tards go and sit in on a actual debate on this.  You know, by people who know what they are talking about.

Prince Won
6 months ago  ::  Jan 12, 2009 - 10:07PM #10
Memp ☥ is
Posts: 9891

Its clear you are looking for a specific  answer. I have alerady mentioned carbon dating, archeological record that prove that the world is millions of years old. what more do you want?

He who commits injustice is ever made more wretched than he who suffers it. - Plato

Democracy... is a charming form of government, full of variety and disorder; and dispensing a sort of equality to equals and unequals alike.

Violence as a way of achieving racial justice is both impractical and immoral. It is impractical because it is a descending spiral ending in destruction for all. The old law of an eye for an eye leaves everybody blind. It is immoral because it seeks to humiliate the opponent rather than win his understanding; it seeks to annihilate rather than to convert. Violence is immoral because it thrives on hatred rather than love. It destroys a community and makes brotherhood impossible. It leaves society in monologue rather than dialogue. Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in the survivors and brutality in the destroyers. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr

I hope that after I die, people will say of me: "That guy sure owed me a lot of money."
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