Jul 3, 2009 -- 5:00PM, mainwun wrote:

have you ever notice the similarities between people within the same economical status? if you go to a lower class black community or a lower class white trailer park community you see some of the same things, excessive alcohol and drug use, unkempt living space, broke down cars, stray dogs, high drop out rate, disregard for government or law, blaming others for their situation etc etc. the same for middle class, and upper class communities.

I dunno man, some of the most patriotic americans I have ever seen are poor trailer park white hill billies. But within the class systems there is still white privalege. So poor white people have more of a chance to get up out of there than poor non-whites.

Jul 3, 2009 -- 6:32PM, mainwun wrote:

Jul 3, 2009 -- 6:24PM, Chike wrote:

Jul 3, 2009 -- 5:00PM, mainwun wrote:

have you ever notice the similarities between people within the same economical status? if you go to a lower class black community or a lower class white trailer park community you see some of the same things, excessive alcohol and drug use, unkempt living space, broke down cars, stray dogs, high drop out rate, disregard for government or law, blaming others for their situation etc etc. the same for middle class, and upper class communities.

 

I dunno man, some of the most patriotic americans I have ever seen are poor trailer park white hill billies. But within the class systems there is still white privalege. So poor white people have more of a chance to get up out of there than poor non-whites.

how so? how do you stay poor?

you know some poor white folks blame affirmitive action, or illegal immagrites, or anyone besides themselves for being poor.

Well, getting a job at mcdonalds is not going to get you up and out of the ghetto, it's just not. The educational system in the poor communities, in accordance to becoming "successful" in this society, is just horrendous, so most of the youth aren't going to even get an education at all. The banking and loan departments are racist as fuck, there's no denying that. Plus you have the entertainment and drug industries which is straight up entrapment because they push all the narcotics through the ghettos to keep the poor sick and pre-occupied. The entertainment industry is marketed toward the uneducated poor youth and hypnotizes people to glorify "bling" and flashiness even if you're poor. So any money the youth ends up getting whether from selling drugs or whatever, they end up spending it on nonsense rather than trying to get out of the ghetto, since a part of the video you even posted in the rap thread shows how it's common to glorify being in the ghetto if you have a certain skin color. And for those who really DO try to use that "crime" money they make to get up, they end up getting caught and put in prison because everything nowadays is being watched and monitored, credit cards, billing, cellphones etc... The prison systems are filling up by the millions and if you happen to get out, you got a criminal record that will haunt you for the rest of your American life.... Now, I guess in theory, we cant put the entire blame on someone else, mainly the assholes setting up these traps for the poor to fail, because everyone has free will, BUT still, that is fucked up situation to be in, and it's not natural and should not exist. Psychology is a powerful weapon and not many people can resist it especially when you grow up into it and you know nothing else or aren't head strong.

Now as far as the poor trailer park community, what their excuse is, I am not really sure. I guess it would be the education part. and they are the few colladeral damage that fell into the trap set up for other people. Because we're all human beings and we're all capable of falling for the same psychology no matter what color you are. This is why it's Sooooo important for these rich white people to have the police to protect them and watch over their neighborhoods to keep this trap set up for the poor, out of the rich communities. Poor white people are colladeral damage. Rich black people are also colladeral damage in this system, because they use these very few rich black people as an excuse to make it seem like ANYONE can be rich or has the same opportunities, which is an illusion. Because the entire poor community has to exist in order for there to be rich communities, someone HAS to be poor and guess who white people have chosen to take on that role, they definitely aren't going to nominate themselves. Just saying...

Jul 3, 2009 -- 6:53PM, Uncle_Diesel wrote:

Jul 3, 2009 -- 5:00PM, mainwun wrote:

have you ever notice the similarities between people within the same economical status? if you go to a lower class black community or a lower class white trailer park community you see some of the same things, excessive alcohol and drug use, unkempt living space, broke down cars, stray dogs, high drop out rate, disregard for government or law, blaming others for their situation etc etc. the same for middle class, and upper class communities.

 

First of all, you should stop equating economic staus with class. Some of the most degenerate, uncivilized, savages you will ever meet are people with tremendous wealth. Mainly because money affords them a licentious lifestlye. Rich people blame everybody else too. Rich, white, Republicans made a living off of blaming everybody  for the decline of America. And who has a more disregard for government and law than wealthy people who flout them on the regular but just because they got money and connections they get off. But by the same token, some of the finest people you ever want to meet are people with scarce means.

 

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Jul 3, 2009 -- 6:53PM, Uncle_Diesel wrote:

Jul 3, 2009 -- 6:32PM, mainwun wrote:

Jul 3, 2009 -- 6:24PM, Chike wrote:

Jul 3, 2009 -- 5:00PM, mainwun wrote:

have you ever notice the similarities between people within the same economical status? if you go to a lower class black community or a lower class white trailer park community you see some of the same things, excessive alcohol and drug use, unkempt living space, broke down cars, stray dogs, high drop out rate, disregard for government or law, blaming others for their situation etc etc. the same for middle class, and upper class communities.

 

I dunno man, some of the most patriotic americans I have ever seen are poor trailer park white hill billies. But within the class systems there is still white privalege. So poor white people have more of a chance to get up out of there than poor non-whites.

First of all, you should stop equating economic staus with class. Some of the most degenerate, uncivilized, savages you will ever meet are people with tremendous wealth. Mainly because money affords them a licentious lifestlye. Rich people blame everybody else too. Rich, white, Republicans made a living off of blaming everybody  for the decline of America. And who has a more disregard for government and law than wealthy people who flout them on the regular but just because they got money and connections they get off. But by the same token, some of the finest people you ever want to meet are people with scarce means.

 

what about Democrats? both of these political parties are no good. but Democrats specialize in victimization.

 

Jul 3, 2009 -- 7:20PM, Uncle_Diesel wrote:

 

Jul 3, 2009 -- 5:00PM, mainwun wrote:

 

 

Well, getting a job at mcdonalds is not going to get you up and out of the ghetto, it's just not. The educational system in the poor communities, in accordance to becoming "successful" in this society, is just horrendous, so most of the youth aren't going to even get an education at all. The banking and loan departments are racist as fuck, there's no denying that. Plus you have the entertainment and drug industries which is straight up entrapment because they push all the narcotics through the ghettos to keep the poor sick and pre-occupied. The entertainment industry is marketed toward the uneducated poor youth and hypnotizes people to glorify "bling" and flashiness even if you're poor. So any money the youth ends up getting whether from selling drugs or whatever, they end up spending it on nonsense rather than trying to get out of the ghetto, since a part of the video you even posted in the rap thread shows how it's common to glorify being in the ghetto if you have a certain skin color. And for those who really DO try to use that "crime" money they make to get up, they end up getting caught and put in prison because everything nowadays is being watched and monitored, credit cards, billing, cellphones etc... The prison systems are filling up by the millions and if you happen to get out, you got a criminal record that will haunt you for the rest of your American life.... Now, I guess in theory, we cant put the entire blame on someone else, mainly the assholes setting up these traps for the poor to fail, because everyone has free will, BUT still, that is fucked up situation to be in, and it's not natural and should not exist. Psychology is a powerful weapon and not many people can resist it especially when you grow up into it and you know nothing else or aren't head strong.

 

Now as far as the poor trailer park community, what their excuse is, I am not really sure. I guess it would be the education part. and they are the few colladeral damage that fell into the trap set up for other people. Because we're all human beings and we're all capable of falling for the same psychology no matter what color you are. This is why it's Sooooo important for these rich white people to have the police to protect them and watch over their neighborhoods to keep this trap set up for the poor, out of the rich communities. Poor white people are colladeral damage. Rich black people are also colladeral damage in this system, because they use these very few rich black people as an excuse to make it seem like ANYONE can be rich or has the same opportunities, which is an illusion. Because the entire poor community has to exist in order for there to be rich communities, someone HAS to be poor and guess who white people have chosen to take on that role, they definitely aren't going to nominate themselves. Just saying...

Racism and poverty, could be eradicated with unity. Jewish People suffered racism, yet you don't see them in the unemployment lines and soup kitchens, and contrary to popular belief they are not all rich. They know that when one rises they all rise. They make it a point to support each other even if they don't get along. They could have poor and rich living in the same neighborhood and you wouldn't know it. They have a code among them that they take care of each other. Too often Black people who have achieved success feel ashamed to demonstrate racial unity when others do it for fear that they will be labeled as pro black. Italians do it, Asians do it, Arabs do it. Why shouldn't we? We have a responsibiliy to reach back. Forget about building playgrounds, tickets to sporting events, and rap contests. take the young dude to a business meeting, science lab, construction site. Let him see something beyond the limited scope of BET and PeeWee Football.  I applaud groups like 100 Black Men, and People like Will Smith and Ludacris. They get it. Black Millionaires could be Billionaires if they invested in the people from whence they came. 

i agree. but in order to start this process we have to be brutally honest with ourselves. We have to honestly say what will and will not be acceptable. drug dealing cannot be an alternative, no matter how poor you are. gang banging has to go, no matter how much of a need for family you have. anti-learning can not exist, no matter how worn out the books you use in school are. Going to prison should not be celebrated and bragged about, it should be a disgrace. responsibility should be a badge of honor, if you did it it's because you choose to.