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Obama expands on his Economic plans
2 months ago  ::  Oct 13, 2008 - 02:28PM #1
Hennessy Thomas
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/14/us/politics/14campaign.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin


The most important stuff is in bold, but you should read everything of course.


 


TOLEDO — Senator Barack Obama on Monday expanded his economic platform, including proposals to spur
new jobs, to give Americans penalty-free access to retirement savings
to help them through the downturn, to urge a 90-day moratorium on home
foreclosures and to lend money to strapped local and state governments.


Mr. Obama also is calling on Congress to double $25 billion the
government loan guarantees for automakers and to temporarily eliminate
taxes on unemployment benefits.


Campaign advisers said those steps and several others could be taken
before January through current laws or by the Democratic-controlled
Congress acting in a lame-duck session.


Mr. Obama is outlining his revised plan in Toledo, Ohio, a
struggling city that is representative of the economic crisis and the
battle for industrial-belt swing states that could determine the winner
of the Nov. 4 election.


Senator John McCain,
his Republican rival, also gave an economic speech in Virginia Beach,
Va., but he had no new policy prescriptions, having rejected his
advisers’ options over the weekend as too gimmicky, according to one
Republican close to the campaign.


Mr. Obama was not originally scheduled to present new policy
proposals in his speech at the Sea Gate Convention Centre in downtown
Toledo. But when word spread on Sunday evening that Mr. McCain would
not offer new economic proposals, as had been suggested by some aides,
the Obama campaign saw an opportunity to expand upon Mr. Obama’s plans
to offer relief for the middle-class with ideas on the table.


“We have the advantage of sharing ideas that are consistent with
the ideas we have shared before,” David Axelrod, the campaign’s
chief strategist, said in an interview. New polls suggest mounting
economic anxieties among voters are fueling Mr. Obama’s growing lead in
many polls against Mr. McCain.


The main new proposals would:


for the next two years, give businesses a $3,000 income-tax
credit for each new full-time employee they hire above the number in
their current workforce;


allow savers with tax-favored Individual Retirement Accounts and
401(k)’s to withdraw 15 percent of those retirement savings, up to a
maximum of $10,000, without paying a tax penalty as the law currently
requires for withdrawals before age 59 and a half;


bar financial institutions that take advantage of the Treasury’s
rescue plan from foreclosing on the mortgages of any homeowners who are
making “good-faith efforts” to make payments;


direct the Treasury and the Federal Reserve to create a temporary facility for loans to state and local
governments, similar to the Fed’s new arrangement to loan corporations
money by buying their commercial paper, which are the I.O.U.s that help businesses with daily operating expenses like payrolls.


 


So what do you guys think of these proposals?

2 months ago  ::  Oct 13, 2008 - 02:32PM #2
drewhood
Posts: 1088

I THINK ITS ABOUT 22 DAYS TILL WE MAKE MUTHA**** HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THATS WHAT I THINK


 


OH AND I LIKE THE NEW PROPOSALS

2 months ago  ::  Oct 13, 2008 - 02:39PM #3
Focust
Posts: 5820

is it me or does he want more spending?  I like the 401 K idea and the tax credit... still am unsure about that tax those above 250,000 range, that's small businesses that get hit and I'd like for him to do something with the Federal Reserve... it just seems to me they have way too much power in a opaque way

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2 months ago  ::  Oct 13, 2008 - 02:47PM #4
juswest06
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Oct 13, 2008 - 01:39PM, Focust wrote:


is it me or does he want more spending?  I like the 401 K idea and the tax credit... still am unsure about that tax those above 250,000 range, that's small businesses that get hit and I'd like for him to do something with the Federal Reserve... it just seems to me they have way too much power in a opaque way




Well yea he wants more spending. So does the other guy. They'll both spend insane amounts of money just in different ways

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Love takes up where knowledge leaves off.
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2 months ago  ::  Oct 13, 2008 - 02:53PM #5
Focust
Posts: 5820

Oct 13, 2008 - 01:47PM, juswest06 wrote:


Oct 13, 2008 - 01:39PM, Focust wrote:


is it me or does he want more spending?  I like the 401 K idea and the tax credit... still am unsure about that tax those above 250,000 range, that's small businesses that get hit and I'd like for him to do something with the Federal Reserve... it just seems to me they have way too much power in a opaque way




Well yea he wants more spending. So does the other guy. They'll both spend insane amounts of money just in different ways



True but really can we afford that from either, the US debt is now 10,150,603, 734,720 according to the debt clock

Why make it rain... when I can drop gems

a closed mouth doesn't get fed, so why should I close my mind?

"A simple rule dictates my buying: Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful." - Warren Buffet

TRENTON, NJ!!!
2 months ago  ::  Oct 13, 2008 - 03:01PM #6
juswest06
Posts: 6153

Oct 13, 2008 - 01:53PM, Focust wrote:


Oct 13, 2008 - 01:47PM, juswest06 wrote:


Oct 13, 2008 - 01:39PM, Focust wrote:


is it me or does he want more spending?  I like the 401 K idea and the tax credit... still am unsure about that tax those above 250,000 range, that's small businesses that get hit and I'd like for him to do something with the Federal Reserve... it just seems to me they have way too much power in a opaque way




Well yea he wants more spending. So does the other guy. They'll both spend insane amounts of money just in different ways



True but really can we afford that from either, the US debt is now 10,150,603, 734,720 according to the debt clock




well of course not. But hey they don't really care

“I hated every minute of training, but I said, ''Don't quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.''”
Muhammad Ali

Love takes up where knowledge leaves off.
Saint Thomas Aquinas
2 months ago  ::  Oct 13, 2008 - 03:11PM #7
Focust
Posts: 5820

Oct 13, 2008 - 02:01PM, juswest06 wrote:


Oct 13, 2008 - 01:53PM, Focust wrote:


Oct 13, 2008 - 01:47PM, juswest06 wrote:


Oct 13, 2008 - 01:39PM, Focust wrote:


is it me or does he want more spending?  I like the 401 K idea and the tax credit... still am unsure about that tax those above 250,000 range, that's small businesses that get hit and I'd like for him to do something with the Federal Reserve... it just seems to me they have way too much power in a opaque way




Well yea he wants more spending. So does the other guy. They'll both spend insane amounts of money just in different ways



True but really can we afford that from either, the US debt is now 10,150,603, 734,720 according to the debt clock




well of course not. But hey they don't really care



lol apparently... I think Andrew Jackson was the last president who had the US out of debt

Why make it rain... when I can drop gems

a closed mouth doesn't get fed, so why should I close my mind?

"A simple rule dictates my buying: Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful." - Warren Buffet

TRENTON, NJ!!!
2 months ago  ::  Oct 13, 2008 - 04:57PM #8
Naturngarvey
Posts: 633

His unemployment plan sounds cool, but he still didn't mention anything bout giving each citizen money. he can literally give each citizen over 18 a 100 thousand a piece and the economy would strive plus its cheaper than any plans that he has

2 months ago  ::  Oct 13, 2008 - 05:50PM #9
Gregory_House
Posts: 757

I think it's funny that politicians are so afraid to be realistic. What is needed is major cuts in spending and increase in taxes. Seems pretty simple to me and basic economics but for some reason the public can't stand that realistic solution.

2 months ago  ::  Oct 13, 2008 - 06:07PM #10
One Half of HV
Posts: 640

Oct 13, 2008 - 04:50PM, Gregory_House wrote:


I think it's funny that politicians are so afraid to be realistic. What is needed is major cuts in spending and increase in taxes. Seems pretty simple to me and basic economics but for some reason the public can't stand that realistic solution.




 


Well, many people in this country cannot afford to be taxed anymore than they are already being taxed.

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