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  • Re: Uncle Ben Carson: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here and Worked Really Hard ‘for Less’

    I mean, gotta look at the actual quotes and what was said instead of the sensationalism. And it was in whatever context. And I mean, its...I think its more of a type thing where he's attempting to illustrate a particular situation. As I read it here it doesnt offend me. Just looking at the actual quote. I guess the biggest thing is the use of the word "immigrant"? I'd have to look up the definition but I dont know that it doesnt necessarily apply loosely considering He did actually acknowledge their situation and conditions. This as it stands now doesnt strike me as horrible. Just that quote in itself.
    Im not the knee jerk type man I gotta process. Things aint always about first emotional response I generally aint that type. Calculating. Now if enough evidence is apparent in one direction then hey it is what it is. Im just taking thisone quote and analyzing.

    Nigga wtf his entire quote was bullshit in or out of context. Slaves did not come here in search of prosperity and opportunity for themselves nor their kids and grandkids. Why are you tryna jump through hoops to make excuses for this factually incorrect, stupid ass shit?

    Uh, I'll repost the part I think people are talking about here.
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    “That’s what America is about,” Carson said. “A land of dreams and opportunity. There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less. But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great grandsons, great granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”

    Now in this quote, which is all im addressing, no emotion just analyzing, did he not acknowledge the conditions they came in? Why did the ones who chose to, bring kids into the situation, did they not think that there would be hope for them? I mean just being knee jerk is a problem and one that can really hurt the knee jerker. Sometimes its about analyzing and really seeing whats going on. Look at the actual quote. Thats part of the issue in this country right now people go off snippets used to manipulate and emotion. Im not defending him but this quote in and of itself is not horrible. The only thing would be the use of the word immigrant but I dont know that it doesnt apply in a loose sense. Im a thinker and dont do the knee jerk thing because that gets you into trouble I can see more than the surface emotional level. Thats all im pointing out here look at what he actually said. He didnt say it was a trip to Disney world in fact just the opposite smh. Can you not acknowledge that?

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  • Re: Uncle Ben Carson: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here and Worked Really Hard ‘for Less’

    1CK1S wrote: »
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    WASHINGTON ― Ben Carson made his debut as secretary of Housing and Urban Development Monday by telling agency employees about the virtues of the “can-do” American society. Carson said this value system was best exemplified by slaves, whom he characterized as immigrants who came to the United States with very little and worked very hard.

    “That’s what America is about,” Carson said. “A land of dreams and opportunity. There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less. But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great grandsons, great granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”



    One HUD employee who was in the room for Carson’s speech said there was no audible reaction to Carson’s slave ship remark, although she was shocked by it and immediately recognized that it’d be a problem. She added that overall, people at the agency are excited about their new boss.

    The Senate approved Carson, a neurosurgeon with no experience in housing policy, to the job last week.

    In 2013, Carson said Obamacare was “the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery.”

    “And it is in a way, it is slavery in a way, because it is making all of us subservient to the government, and it was never about health care,” he added. “It was about control.”

    Carson also spent part of his speech to agency employees Monday talking about the human brain.

    “[E]very human being, regardless of their ethnicities, or their background, they have a brain, the human brain,” he said, later adding, “You can’t overload [the brain]. Have you ever heard people say, ?Don’t do that or you’ll overload your brain’? You can’t overload the human brain. ... So we need to concentrate a little less on what we can’t do and a little more on what we can do.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ben-carson-slaves-immigrants_us_58bdbf1fe4b033be1467634f

    I mean, gotta look at the actual quotes and what was said instead of the sensationalism. And it was in whatever context. And I mean, its...I think its more of a type thing where he's attempting to illustrate a particular situation. As I read it here it doesnt offend me. Just looking at the actual quote. I guess the biggest thing is the use of the word "immigrant"? I'd have to look up the definition but I dont know that it doesnt necessarily apply loosely considering He did actually acknowledge their situation and conditions. This as it stands now doesnt strike me as horrible. Just that quote in itself.
    Im not the knee jerk type man I gotta process. Things aint always about first emotional response I generally aint that type. Calculating. Now if enough evidence is apparent in one direction then hey it is what it is. Im just taking thisone quote and analyzing.
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  • Re: Remy Ma - shEther (Nicki Minaj diss) She goes in

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    Mmmm

    Shit worked I just want to stare at this pic

    Yeah. this the best thing to come out of this. I aint the type of dude to get mad at this. Fck the lame "beef" dont even know if this is a result of that. But at least something decent (that pic) can come of this. This>Remy's corny songs.
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  • Re: Remy Ma - shEther (Nicki Minaj diss) She goes in

    She took a shot to put herself in a conversation/increase attention and relevance. I thought it was cringe worthy yesterday. Think its lame today. Not convinced Nicki was ever talking or thinking about her in the first place from the little i heard. It would take something to verify she was to change this. Honestly she could probably ignore this shot for attention just by the feel it has at this point. Remy took her shot tho and exposed herself it is what it is.At least thats my assessment.
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  • Re: The Official World Politics Thread - All Breaking News here.

    I'll give some examples of talking points, many of which were right wing,that were parroted by some here and elsewhere.

    "Democrats dont care about black people"-uh, what is that supposed to even mean? Many of them are black themselves including the (then) first family. They stop being black because they are Democrats? You think all Democrats take their skin off and become immune and apart from black issues when they get elected? Its not so ludicrously simple or cut and dry.

    "Hillary and Trump are just the same" (too ludicrous to even get into) or "just as bad"-again ridiculously simplistic and idiotic stance. What about looking at things like actual policy proposals.

    "Voting doesnt matter" etc.
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