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  • Reason Debates VII: Sion vs L3NU

    This is the Reason Debates VII the purpose of these debates is for healthy debates and plus it's something fun to do. There will be a 500 word limit, nothing over that amount. Each debate will be 24 hours after that point the debates will be over. Each participant will get 3 try's. After the debates are over posters are allowed to vote. The rules on voting is simple, you are to vote on who made the better argument and NOT the side you agree with.

    Debate topic- in recent years we've seen artists rise up through social media and YouTube. So the question is has the quality control in hip hop been lost?

    @Sion- Yes
    @L3NU- No
  • The Reason Debates VII (matchups inside)

    @Sion@L3NU

    Your topic is up any questions just let me know in here.
  • So When Is Someone Going To Admit That Craig Mac Wrote BIG Verse For Flava In Ya Ear

    tompetrez3 wrote: »
    Craig Mack co wrote ready to die. Craig Mack used to ghostwrite for EPMD also

    He may have wrote some hooks (benefit of the doubt) but I doubt he wrote verses for Biggie. If he was that nice then how come Mack rarely wrote any classic verses for himself?
  • So when is that nigga Troy Average gonna put some bass in his voice

    FuriousOne wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    lamontbdc wrote: »
    based on lyrics he's not wack?
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    He's an average rapper. Based on some of the rappers that get hyped on here I don't see how he's wack and they're not.
    FuriousOne wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    Lol what did this nigga do for y'all to hate him so much? Can't be cause he average cause y'all like worst niggas than him

    If he had a southern accent spitting those same rhymes niggas wouldn't be hating.

    I'm not saying he's a lyrical messiah. But he's not "wack".

    nah bruh, NO.

    nobody checkin for Troy "hood shenco" avenue.

    That's why I ask the question how are we judging rappers.

    imo dude not the absolute worst lyrically but his songs dont make up for that, they garbage and laughable, on top of that he wanna be 50 so bad and i cant take him seriously talm bout weirdos just cuz they dont be on extra hood shit, but even if he didnt talk all that shit with the music he's dropped, it wouldnt matter cuz id still find it wack

    u guys try to say there are worse rappers we listen to, hey there might be, or maybe they only worse to u, or maybe they make entertaining songs despite subpar lyrics

    Songs are subjective. Lyrics aren't. So I judge rappers on lyrics. Not songs. Based on his lyrics he's not wack. Y'all can argue about that subjective shit all y'all want.

    Can't we have both? You should just stick to battle rapping and leave this wack shit off our airwaves.

    Both what?

    Dope songs and good lyrics. Actually, the overall quality of music is more important to me cuz, i could just read a book or an article online if i was so pressed with what anybody was saying. It's the reason i can listen to foreign music and not no a word. Rapping ads word play and flow to a good beat. His flow is off and his word play is average. His beats are mediocre. So what's left? I guess a gimmick will do. There is also presence, and he comes off as a square.

    Dope songs are subjective. What I think is dope you may think is wack. And vice versa. Lyrically he's average. Lyrics are the only true way to judge an emcee. His flow is decent enough, no one is saying he's AZ in that department. Beats are subjective as well.

    This is 2014 hip hop and in this day and age average rappers are having prolonged careers.

    If you don't like his music cool. But to call him "wack" especially with the bullshit niggas praise on here is silly to me. If niggas was consistent with it then I'd take it more seriously.

    But not when niggas give Young Thug a pass.
  • So when is that nigga Troy Average gonna put some bass in his voice

    5th Letter wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    Lol what did this nigga do for y'all to hate him so much? Can't be cause he average cause y'all like worst niggas than him

    If he had a southern accent spitting those same rhymes niggas wouldn't be hating.

    I'm not saying he's a lyrical messiah. But he's not "wack".

    nah bruh, NO.

    nobody checkin for Troy "hood shenco" avenue.

    That's why I ask the question how are we judging rappers.

    imo dude not the absolute worst lyrically but his songs dont make up for that, they garbage and laughable, on top of that he wanna be 50 so bad and i cant take him seriously talm bout weirdos just cuz they dont be on extra hood shit, but even if he didnt talk all that shit with the music he's dropped, it wouldnt matter cuz id still find it wack

    u guys try to say there are worse rappers we listen to, hey there might be, or maybe they only worse to u, or maybe they make entertaining songs despite subpar lyrics

    Songs are subjective. Lyrics aren't. So I judge rappers on lyrics. Not songs. Based on his lyrics he's not wack. Y'all can argue about that subjective shit all y'all want.