D_Rap_Scholar wrote: »

You're right rapmastermind. The whole point of that list was pretty much to big up Biggie...and as each year goes by, the rap world makes another attempt to try to preserve his legacy.....but how far are you willing to reach and stretch the truth?

(It's not really a matter of trying to "Preserve" his Legacy. The Legacy is already preserved, it's more of a matter of acknowledgement of how impactful his work has been to changing the face of Hip Hop as we know it)

rapmastermind wrote: »

(Life After Death production is like a time capsule of some of the best producers of the 90's)

What album do you think started the trend of assembling a top-notch production team for one album....it was Illmatic! Before Illmatic, most albums were worked by one producer or in-house team, but when Premo, Pete Rock, Large Pro, and Q-Tip gathered together, it was something monumental that was never done before. Life After Death follows Illmatic's template

(Actually it's not true that "ILLmatic" was the 1st multi-producer album. There were plenty of albums with more than one producer before "ILLmatic". "ILLmatic" get credit for bringing together Big Time producers on one project. So Yes that did have an impact on the game. But LAD is more a time capsule of production of the 90's than "ILLmatic" cause Biggie drew from more than a few production styles. ILLmatic had a total of 5 producers. LAD had over 20 producers and the main producers are responsible for most of the Classic albums and songs of the 90's. It was broader than "ILLmatic" from a production scope)


I don't see what this has to do with the quality of an album, but okay, let's give Biggie his props as an emcee. No one can dispute his talent.

(They were just highlighting how verstile lyrically and flow wise Big was on "Life After Death")



hahaha, they're basically admitting that LAD had subpar tracks, by pointing out its chinks. Not a big deal, that's always be expected with double LPs. Yet somehow, they would still have us convinced that those 25 songs flow seamlessly...without flaw? I'm confused....

LAD encompasses more different moods and offers a broader range of songs, but when it comes to judging albums, we should be more concerned about the quality of songs - and not the quantity of songs. They point out Brown Suger and Illmatic as efficient, but they don't give those albums enough credit for showing restraint and fine editing - which are the qualities of a superior album.

(They are basically saying that the album isn't perfect but for there to be as many songs as it is, Biggie still maanged to make an overall amazing experience from that album. So the album does flow very well even though it has a lot of tracks on it. I also give credit to "Brown Sugar and Illmatic" for editing it down to the best songs but "Life After Death" attempted to take it a step futher by saying you can have more than 1 album of nothing but quailty songs. If you think about it. Disc 1 is 12 songs and Disc 2 is 12 songs. Each Disc is Classic so they can stand up against any Classsic in Hip Hop. Even though it's 2 disc, they both are filled with more quality than subpar)

hahaha, funny how they're celebrating their own anniversary, but these fools are shitting on Nas.....dropping this list a day before Illmatic's 19th Aniversary....lol damn, Nas loses again

("ILLmatic" came in at #3 on there list, I don't see how they are sh!tting on an album when it's Top 5? Just cause they didn't have it at #1 doesn't mean they were trashing it. Overall I felt they were giving Biggie more credit for not just having the quality but also being able to show a wider range in styles, production etc)

As far as impact goes, Biggie was not the only East Coast artist to the cross coastal divide. In 96', Nas was the first New York rapper to collaborate with Dre, and Boot Camp Clik were supposedly supposed to work with Tupac on a East Coast/West Coast album of their own.

And let's not kid ourselves, Biggie was a polarizing figure. He may not have wanted to have been embroiled in the controversy (it was mostly a faux-rivalry being pushed by the media) but for better or worse, his name was synonymous with the East Coast. And all his enemies made him out to be that way (the same way that Obama is polarizing. He's not trying to alienate the other half of the country, but he's been made out to be this liberal monster by the conservatives...) If anything, Biggie was collaborating with West Coast artists as a way of breaking out of the regional boundaries being imposed upon him - but it was not supposed to be this grand gesture of unification that would bring an end to the tension. I don't think he was in a position to accomplish that anyway. The beef would have died down eventually, but it would have been after other New York rappers crossed-over (Nas was collaborating with Dr, Boot Camp Clik was talking with Pac about a possible collabo album, and I'm sure Wu-Tang and Mobb Deep would have followed suit)


(The arguement wasn't just about Westcoast though. Biggie on "Life After Death" was able to be non-regional across the entire album. NaS worked with Dre but "It Was Written" was still an Eastcoast album. Cube worked with the Bomb Squad but he still made a Westcoast album. Boot Camp Click was in the early stages of working with Pac but the one nation album never came out. Biggie though was the one to bring it all together. "LAD" had eastcoast producers but it had sounds from every coast. No album since has been able to bridge that gap in production. Big had Westcoast Beats, Midwest Beats, Southern Beats and Beats from his Coast. Big was polarizing only amongst some of his peers. The people crowned Big at the end of the day. Just cause some NY rappers were mad at his success doesn't mean he wasn't loved cause he was. Also we will never know if Big was in the position to squash the beef or not. The point was he tried by making a record that said, "Yes I'm the King of New York but I can appeal to all of you, even you guys out West" and he accomplished that.)

Tommy bilfiger wrote: »

If big wasn't considered a goat then niggas wouldnt be spending countless hours tryna prove he wasn't.A couple of u cats been in here for 4-5 consecutive hours cosignin and clickin

Just face it Big is da Goat and better than your favorite rappa.Listening to rappas for emotion is gay.I listen for bars and dope lyrics not emotion

dwade206 wrote: »

...P is dope, but no

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