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  • Re: Let's Settle This, Who's Got The More Annoying Stan Base?: Eminem vs Pac

    I understand why Em is winning this thing big, but let's keep it really real...

    When it comes to the relevant hip hop community (not 13 year old white kids from the suburbs) it's Pac stans by a mile- at least from what I have experienced living in Cali all my life.

    Pac stans act like he really was Jesus reincarnated. They act like he really dropped 5 classics in a row before he died (and some cats really act like R U Still Down? was a finished product before he died).

    I hate Em stans, but outside of the occasional argument for his first 3 albums being undeniable classics, Em stans don't usually try to say that EVERY album he ever made was a classic (especially Encore and Relapse).

    Em stans are at their worst when they act like he's the greatest lyricist of all time because of the different flows and speeds he can rap at- completely ignoring the 30% of his content that is just homophobic, annoying accented, stupid yelling clown garbage that has no real substance to it.

    What takes the cake about Pac stans for me though is that these motherfuckers don't even know the man's catalog but are ready to FIGHT YOU because you disagree with them. At least Em stans actually know all his shit (including all the stupid gay shit), but most Pac fans I know couldn't name 5 tracks off any one particular album, nor spit a verse that's not off a radio hit.

    Pac stans also act like he changed the world with 2Pacalypse Now. That album is actually pretty boring and he is clearly rapping like a lost member of Public Enemy with no identity of his own yet. But ask a Pac stan and they will tell you that you are "stupid as fuck BRUH" and that "Trapped" and "Brenda's Got a Baby" are Genesis and Exodus of Pac's biblical scripture.

    Eminem will always be the most overrated rapper of all time because of his crossover appeal with tens of millions of people that don't even listen to rap outside of him, but in the community (at least where I live), folks who haven't put on a Pac record since Better Dayz are still acting like he walked on water and his "lyrics was prophecy" (yes I have literally been told that before).
    Busta Carmichael StewSoloman_The_WiseRevolver Ocelotachewon87L3NUking hassangenocidecutter
  • Re: Kendrick Lamar Album Discussion 4-14-17

    rip.dilla wrote: »
    KamPushMe wrote: »
    This album is a major improvement from how to pimp a butterfly.

    Agree. But neither is a classic nor are they touching GKMC.

    This is a GOOD album. But the fact that people are seriously considering K-Dot Top 5 is ridiculous at this point in time.

    TPAB is a classic u nimrod

    I don't know a soul in real life that has bumped that album all the way through since June 2015. People still bumping GKMC; even more now that DAMN. is out and nostalgia is taking effect.

    Man... TPAB is gonna be dug out for the whip and the wireless speakers this weekend. I'm in the minority concerning the bolded.



    I think my favouritism for TPAB out of all his studio albums stems from it's rich music-ality.. and me being a huge jazz aficionado

    I never said the album was wack. It is in fact a GOOD album like I originally said. And it is dope musically. In fact, the arrangement and layering of the production is probably TPAB's best aspect.But I feel that it is a concept album that serves as mood music. It was not game changer nor was it a banger that you could just throw on anytime you felt like it.

    People these days are so thirsty for lyricism and deeper music that when someone drops a competent project (especially with an established name and track record like Kendrick), everyone is so quick to hail the album as a classic and start talking Top 5 and shit like that...
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  • Re: Kendrick Lamar vs Nas *AT AGE 29

    Shizlansky wrote: »
    folks to quick to put these new generation rapper on Legend/Goat status just cause they drop albums that for todays climate sound lyrical or are cool.

    come back 10,20 years from now and see if these said albums that some are claiming classic have that feel that such classics that came out in the 80s,90, even early 2000s still have today

    SERIOUSLY.

    And no. They won't. I'm amazed that so many people on The Reason hail TPAB as a classic... I live in Cali and no one I know outside of L.A. (and only half the cats I know that live in L.A.) has listened to that album since about 3 months after it came out. You mention that album out here and cats remember King Kunta and Alright... ya know... the usual shit.

    MFers are fake as hell when it comes to conscious rap and put every new rapper that's "lyrical" on a pedestal.

    Dudes were saying Lupe was Top 5... Hasn't been mentioned since Lasers.
    Fools were saying Wale was gonna be that dude... Signed with MMG and became Ross' roadie.
    Cole was the man when Forest Hills dropped... Now gets criticized for making "nap" music.

    No one is going to play DAMN. outside of D.N.A. and Humble in 2 years... mark these words.

    It's the snap era all over again. Anyone even remotely lyrical in the mainstream gets boosted to ridiculous heights. Thanks Future...

    Lupe dropped T&Y and shit was fly

    It doesn't matter how dope his last project was. All these dudes are still dope lyrically. I'm saying he is for all intents and purposes irrelevant outside of the heads' universe.

    If I go to the gym to hoop right now and be like "Ayo, that Tetsuo & Youth was fire. Lupe still got it, man"; everyone in there would be like "Who? The kick push nigga? He still makin' albums?".
    bck145
  • Re: What's the biggest reason for the disconnect between the younger and older generation of hip hop fan

    The internet caused the divide of young vs. old fans by destroying the shared community of mainstream hip hop that had been experienced the prior 30 years.

    Even though it's much better for the individual artist now, when major labels were the gatekeepers of music, A&Rs were necessary to make sure that the artists they signed were legit. If they weren't, the labels would lose money and the music channels would lose viewers on the countdown shows.

    Once online pirating became household, labels lost the power to control music quality, music channels disappeared, and us fans were scattered into the wind to decide for ourselves what was hot or not. While this is in no way a bad thing, it started the divide we have today.

    The artists that are hot today are cats that built their own following through social media BEFORE signing with a label. So regardless if they suck, if they can pull numbers of like minded masses together, labels will sign them because they are packaged and ready to market, without any need for A&R, million dollar music videos, super producers, and expensive tours to build up fan bases.

    Meanwhile, us old heads have 1) matured, and 2) still remember when you had to SPIT and be talented to get signed, so our standards are WAY higher than 14 year olds that want to rebel and just yell "aye" at the end of every bar. So we naturally go back to what we know or search for underground stuff that the youth don't.

    That's why we have the divide. No one is listening to the same shit, so there is no more community to share critique or praise in outside of internet forums and lame ass Twitter threads.
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  • Re: Kendrick Lamar vs Nas *AT AGE 29

    folks to quick to put these new generation rapper on Legend/Goat status just cause they drop albums that for todays climate sound lyrical or are cool.

    come back 10,20 years from now and see if these said albums that some are claiming classic have that feel that such classics that came out in the 80s,90, even early 2000s still have today

    SERIOUSLY.

    And no. They won't. I'm amazed that so many people on The Reason hail TPAB as a classic... I live in Cali and no one I know outside of L.A. (and only half the cats I know that live in L.A.) has listened to that album since about 3 months after it came out. You mention that album out here and cats remember King Kunta and Alright... ya know... the usual shit.

    MFers are fake as hell when it comes to conscious rap and put every new rapper that's "lyrical" on a pedestal.

    Dudes were saying Lupe was Top 5... Hasn't been mentioned since Lasers.
    Fools were saying Wale was gonna be that dude... Signed with MMG and became Ross' roadie.
    Cole was the man when Forest Hills dropped... Now gets criticized for making "nap" music.

    No one is going to play DAMN. outside of D.N.A. and Humble in 2 years... mark these words.

    It's the snap era all over again. Anyone even remotely lyrical in the mainstream gets boosted to ridiculous heights. Thanks Future...
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