Plenty of Israelites lost faith in the Bible god back in the day and there are many people worldwide who are disgusted with the kind of being the Bible god claims to be. Have you ever seen the museums of people dumping the Bible and its relics in piss and worse? Even I wouldn't do shit like that, so it shows the kind of disgust many people have out there.
And the Bible god did kill many Israelites because the bread tasted bad and Israelites complained about it, don't make me bring up the passages. Read up and see for yourself.
nigga why would i be denying the fact that people lose faith??? is your brain working are you paying attention to the discussion we are having??? and go ahead and post those passages. and as for the museums there have always been people who hate god
Um are you losing track of what the discussion is? I said plenty of people lost faith in the Bible god and were/are disgusted by its actions or passages and you asked what I was talking about.
And as far as those passages, I'll post them up soon enough, once work isn't as busy.
You are all over the place in the discussion. You post something talking about the end times then you start talking about exodus.
In the first case God is giving people who have no connection to him what they want.
the second case is about God punishing people he made a deal with him. Then you jump to people losing faith like that is supposed to mean anything??? Like no shit people lose faith. Large sections of the bible are about the consequence of losing faith.
For the ancient Israelites it was death because that was part of the covenant they made.
For the people in the end times it will simply be God giving them what they want.
god is a manipulater, plain and simple
if he knows all, does all, and everything is already "set in stone" because it's his, again, HIS , will.. Then it is him who moves the pawns on the chess board..
I don't get how something positive is always "gods gift/will" but anything negative isn't, nah, you cannot pick and choose..
Gods characteristics are easy to read. Take the story of Moses and the Pharoah. God told Moses to ask Pharoah for the release of his people, but God kept interfering and "hardening his heart", essentially, controlling him to not give the release.
That's straight up bullshit.
That in itself speaks volumes about what kind of being God is.
Yeah, it's ridiculous. Everything is set in stone allegedly because god knows what is going to happen before it happens, and at the same time does nothing about it while claiming it would protect its people. But tragedies happen anyway.
It's why I've said for a long time now that if the Bible god is real, it's an extremely evil being and lazy beyond belief. Not worthy of being called a god, but a demonic beast, in all forms. I would say this to its face if it was real, but luckily for us all, the Bible/Abrahamic god is make believe. Why harden the heart of an enemy lol, was the Bible god playing both sides of the fence all along? Then it truly is a deceiver.
Another decieving moment was when Moses was on the mountain praying/talking to God and he had left Aaron in charge of watching over the people.
In that time, Aaron had asked for everyone's gold and they smelted their gold to form a golden calf.
Moses comes back and Aaron lies and says he tried to stop them. Moses goes back to discuss this with God and God commands him and Aaron to slaughter 3,000 of them for doing this.
How in the fuck is Aaron's wrongdoing, creating the false idol and lying, not even acknowledge by the all knowing being?
Shit like that is bothersome. But I'll leave it to these guys to scramble up some random explanation.
And I looked, and, behold, ye had sinned against the LORD your God, and had made you a molten calf: ye had turned aside quickly out of the way which the LORD had commanded you.
And I took the two tables, and cast them out of my two hands, and brake them before your eyes.
And I fell down before the LORD, as at the first, forty days and forty nights: I did neither eat bread, nor drink water, because of all your sins which ye sinned, in doing wickedly in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.
For I was afraid of the anger and hot displeasure, wherewith the LORD was wroth against you to destroy you. But the LORD hearkened unto me at that time also.
And the LORD was very angry with Aaron to have destroyed him: and I prayed for Aaron also the same time.
moses saved aaron @vibe
Moses saved Aaron, one man......but the Bible god and Moses killed 3,000 people for worshipping another god. Petty as hell. If any random religious group had a god that allowed some shit like that, you would cry up a storm.
I see why Abrahamic religions have the bloodiest histories among each other. No wonder Christians, Jews and Muslims kill each other so much, so often around the world, the Abrahamic god sanctions this level of bloodshed. It has after all, ordered it plenty of times.
actually he saved much more than aaron he told the israelites to pick a side and all moved to one side was saved the others got what they deserved. Any tribe/nation that worshiped another god and got to close to israel god punished it's that simple, like a father protecting his children from a pedophile.
And it's not petty. like i already explained to you god could not risk israel falling 100% away from worshiping him god he had a plan for the salvation of man and israel was key to it. also like i told you sometimes you have to cut an arm off to save the body.
Isn't it telling that many of the Israelites themselves had such weak faith in the Abrahamic god? If it was that bothered by the people of Israel breaking up, all it had to do was show itself and the disbelieving would end. Instead, it chose to murder 3,000 people (and more later on) for the respectable right to worship another god. The Bible god showed that it acts little different then Genghis Khan entering a city he has beef with, with his own people. Amazing.
All this sounds very petty to those who think with reason and logic. Is it okay to kill your child if he hates the scrambled eggs you made him?
God cannot just show himself to the whole world that would defeat the whole purpose. The whole point is that he wants people to have faith because faith is true love.
Also you don't know anything about the bible even though you claimed you studied it for years in school.
Because at this point God has proven his power to the Israelites many times already. By inflicting the plaques on Egypt, parting the reed sea, and guiding them by a pillar of fire at night and a pillar of clouds at day. After all that they betrayed him and did wickedness so those who wouldn't repent he punished.