lamontbdc wrote: »

SwampNigga wrote: »

lamontbdc wrote: »

in terms of high hat yall talking bout this right? just making sure i'm not confused b/c this shit ain't no staple of southern hip hop in the 80s, and this isn't no boom bap

We talkin bout Rap music doe not Jazz a whateva that is

It would be ridiculous for a Hip Hop fan to NOT relate 808s and hi-hats to Southern Hip Hop

Nigga what? High hat is high hat regardless of genre. It's the same sound

Not to mention just about every if not all drum machines used in Hip Hop from the Lynn, to the SP1200, and the TR808 all used the 808 drum kit. How ironic that in a thread about old heads you got guys in here telling old heads what went on at the inception and creation of Hip Hop.

Remember when D-Nice titled himself as the TR808? LMAO!!!

Brian B. wrote: »

Kwan Dai wrote: »

I only judge Hip Hop as Nice or Whack. The time period doesn't matter. Is it unfortunate that the most popular MC's of today can't hold a candle to the MC's that came before them? Yes but such is life.

Ok, but what are the factors for determining "nice or wack"


cuz a lot of times yall base it on rapper A not sounding like rapper B (as you did w/ your question)


every human being is different & in turn every artist is (or should be), so one of the problems I see is yall expect artist to sound a certain way instead of accepting how they sound (wether you like it or not)


there are no rules to making music

Quality, consistency, creativity, and originality for starters. Sprinkle in some intelligence, integrity, and awareness then you have something.

That's ridiculous. I didn't mention anything about rapper A sounding like rapper B. Today's MC can't hold a candle to those before them because, they aren't original, don't focus on quality and more then likely are being told what to create.

Melle Mel didn't sound like Spoonie G. Grand Master Caz didn't sound like Moe Dee. Rakim didn't sound like KRS. Kane didn't sound like G-Rap. Nas didn't sound like Big. I could go on and on. But everyone these Pop, Trap rappers sound like the same Ol rehashed ish. The beats sounds the same. The flows sound the same. You even have engineers tweaking voices in the same pitch so, that dudes sound the same. So, I say to you. Stop engaging me because, while I enjoy healthy debate you are just annoying. I don't do well with folks that stand for nothing and think any type of BS should be put in the atmosphere.

There are rules to making music. That's why a person can actually major in Music at a college, university or school for Music.

I only judge Hip Hop as Nice or Whack. The time period doesn't matter. Is it unfortunate that the most popular MC's of today can't hold a candle to the MC's that came before them? Yes but such is life.

I agree with the article 100%. I watched the performance and read the lyrics. It all seems a little staged and not genuine. I'd like to hear from Kanye what his intentions and goals are if, he truly feels and believes what he rapped about in the song.

^^Yeah but these brothers gave us classic material. Why get back in it to do just barely better then their average material? They should be striving to give something close to soul food. I mean shit southern Hip Hop and Hip Hop as a whole could certainly benefit from it artistically.