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  • Re: RZA Says Dressing Better Could Prevent Police Harassment And All Lives Matter

    Kwan Dai wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    He criticizes people getting shot /assaulted for not dressing like a GQ ad while they go about their daily lives....

    The same people he made millions off of while dressed like one of them



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    I think ya'll are misrepresenting what he's saying. He's not really criticizing victims for how they dressed.
    “When you think about some of the brothers who are being brutalized by the police, you also got to have them take a look, and us take a look, in the mirror, at the image we portray. If I’m a cop and every time I see a young black youth, whether I watch them on TV, movies, or just see them hanging out, and they’re not looking properly dressed, properly refined, you know, carrying himself, conducting himself proper hours of the day—things that a man does, you’re going to have a certain fear and stereotype of them,” he espoused.

    Here he's basically just saying that if every time you see a black male with a certain look, be it on tv or in real life, that male is always up to no good, it's only natural that some fear or stereotyping will arise from that. That's absolutely true and not even isolated to black people. As a white dude with a bald head that likes boots and camo if he's ever been mistaken for a Skinhead. That shit happens. He didn't say anywhere that people were wrong for dressing that way. He just said that if we push that image in a way that associates it with negativity, people will eventually come to stereotype everyone who fits that mold. Again, that is 100% true, right or wrong, that's the way of the world. Where I think he's wrong is that he seems to imply that we have more power in pushing that image than we actually do. While I agree the we do bear some of the blame (Ironically hardcore rapper are probably the worst culprits), the white media is far more responsible for promoting those negative stereotypes.
    “I tell my sons, I say, if you’re going somewhere, you don’t have to wear a hoodie–we live in New York, so a hoodie and all that is all good. But sometimes, you know, button up your shirt. Clean up. Look like a young man. You’re not a little kid, you know what I mean? I think that’s another big issue we gotta pay attention to. Is the image that we portray that could invoke a fear into a white officer, or any officer,” he continued.

    For the most part, what he's saying here is not wrong either. Every responsible parent teaches their children this regardless of race. You think white people teach their kids to go into business meetings in whatever casual style of clothing white kids wear these days? Of course not, they teach their kids the same thing that there is a time and place for everything.

    I'm not saying Rza is right. We have more than enough evidence out there to know that being well dressed does not save black people from police brutality, but ya'll are misrepresenting what he's saying just so you guys can go on the standard "coon rants" that you seem to love so much. He didn't say that Tamir Rice got shot because Rice was dressed like a thug. He said unfortunately certain images of black males have been put out there negatively and you have to know that if you put on that image it will attract negative attention. Right or wrong, that is 100% true. A lot of white people associate dreadlocks with thuggery. Does that mean blacks should stop wearing that hairstyle? Hell no. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with pointing out that it may attract some negative attention.

    My post while shorter was synonymous to yours.
    Problem is the majority only skimmed the thread title. Which is a total frabrication. But thats how these things work nowadays.

    Damn, you're right. Most of these niggas don't even know what Rza said. They read the lie in the topic title and have been commenting solely on that. Sometimes I forget how dumb most of the niggas on this site are.
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  • Re: One Album Has To Go: MBDTF, OB4CL2, AG, GKMC

    AG wasn't even a good album. It doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in this list.
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  • Re: IG:"Rapper" Stitches Get's Laid Out / Gee Gets Roasted

    How is it a sucker punch when dude walked right up to Game and his manager?

    Plus apparently he got arrested and he's in jail, so that's another L

    How is it not a sucker punch? He didn't have his hands up ready to go. He was walking up to challenge Game and a third party attacked him. Regardless of what you think of the white boy and his stupidity, that was a cheapshot.

    I don't know if Game is truly tough or not, but I do know letting someone else knock out a guy that is challenging you is not a way to prove you're tough.
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  • Re: A Halloween Tradition: White People in Blackface

    Kwan Dai wrote: »
    Who's being irrational?

    Anyone who is drawing a parallel between this and historical blackface. They factually are not the same thing.
    People that know their history give a fuck.

    Knowing history and understanding it are two different things. If you're aware that white people once made fun of black people by painting their faces. You know history. If you think what this guy is doing is the same thing, you don't understand history.
    It's bothersome because, when you give people a pass for mocking your culture it opens the door to stereotyping. Which, at this point in the game Blacks do not need more of.

    No we don't. If, would seem WHITES are much more preoccupied with what we are doing. You know to the point they are willing to dress up in black face.

    Whose culture is he mocking? The culture of Kanye? Again, if that was his costume and he was saying that he was dressed as a "black man" or a "rap guy." You'd have a point, but that's not what he's doing. He's dressed as Kanye, the same guy they spend millions of dollars supporting and give award after award to even when snubbing the hell out of other deserving black artists.
    I don't know if it's racists or not. What I do know it's insensitive and the act of WHITES dosing themselves in black\brown face paint has a history deeply rooted in racism. Stop your foolishness and implications of people who see through this as being idiots who cannot also see the subtle jabs of our culture being appropriated, and outright mocked in the name of Halloween ( A white holiday) or a some random frat party.

    What culture did he appropriate? That's how you're being irrational. Him dressing up as Kanye isn't stealing Hip Hop. Your whole stance is that everything you do and experience happens through glasses tinted by racism. That's how it is for all of us because have to live in this racist society, so we almost always attribute a racial component to the things we encounter. We're not wrong for that because that's the natural consequence of our history and experience in America. The problem and the reason why shit like this always pisses ya'll off is because you expect white people to see things through those same glasses. They don't. It's as simple as that. That's what white privilege is all about. They don't put the same consideration into things that we do because they don't have to. As soon as black people understand that, we can move away from being hurt by trivial shit like this and put our effort into combating the stuff that truly harms us.
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  • Re: A Halloween Tradition: White People in Blackface

    @Kai quit being a baby. If you don't like what I'm saying, put me on ignore. Stop burying my posts.

    Why was it necessary to paint his face, the sign would have sufficed ... even in blk face no one knew who the fuck he was dressed up as anyways hence the sign

    Given the history of blk face in this country and the recent controversy involving other white students dressed in blk face, why do something that could easily be so misconstrued?

    Could it be that he is an insensitive asshole who is now copping pleas?

    Doesn't appear to be deaf or blind, so at the very least he's dumb

    Can we at least all agree on that?

    Cosign everything you said.

    I didn't say the dude wasn't stupid. I just said dressing up as Kanye is no the same as this shit:

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    That's real black face. Even the people who don't have any paint on at all are essentially participating in black face. That shit is racist as fuck and deserved every bit of hate it generated.
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