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  • Re: Jesse Williams powerful BET awards speech

    The speech was just pandering and preaching to the choir. However, like some have already noted, dude does a lot of good with his actions. That's what we should be promoting and applauding.
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  • Re: The NEW ADHD thread

    This Amazing Athiest dude is funny. Those questions were stupid as hell though. I hate stuff like that because it trivializes real problems and is easy to shut down.

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  • Re: What's worse being raped? or being falsely accused of rape?

    From the other topic;
    DWO wrote: »
    what's worse?
    being raped..or being falsely accused of rape?

    In the moment, I'm sure being raped is worse, but I'd say the after effects are probably the same. Either way, your life is likely ruined. At least if you're the rape victim you probably have some control. If you can get past it, you can pick up the pieces and move on. However, if the falsely accused person is going to be treated differently by others, and that person has no control over that.

    Poll should have had a "Equally Bad" option.
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  • Re: Amber Rose Says She Twerks For Her Son All The Time And Calls It Their "Bonding Moment"

    Now now, condemning the actions of single mothers is misogynoir and criticizing a woman using her agency to flaunt her sexuality is also miogynoir. You guys should be ashamed of yourself.
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  • Re: Lets address the misogynoirism in Black Community....

    Purr wrote: »

    My agency as a black woman is not an opinion.

    My blackness as a woman is not an opinion.

    My experience on sexism and racism as a black woman is not an opinion.

    Think on these sentences.

    How can you learn about misogynoir without the representation of a black woman?

    Think on this on this sentence.

    All I am asking for is respect by listening and trying to understand me, a black woman, without my voice being trampled on or debated.

    This is most likely yall first experience with the term misogynoir. Your first time hearing about intersectionality. Your first time hearing that black men have male privilege. Your first time hearing black women -- speak.

    Listen....and understand me.

    Ok, let me stop you here. I'm not arguing against the bold. As I've said, I acknowledge that the premise of misogynoir is credible and that there are some valid concerns being raised by those that trumpet that term.

    This isn't my first time hearing the term. I went to an HBCU. There were ragheads (not my term) that would talk all day long about this stuff. I'll tell you what I told them. I don't have a problem with your attempts to raise awareness to the plights of black women. What I do have a problem with is the way you broach the subject and some of the reckless conclusions you make.

    The fact is there are some fundamental flaws with the very idea of misogynoir because the premise is flawed. You guys essentially believe being black is a strike and being female is a strike, so being a black female gives you two strikes which automatically makes your more disenfranchised than black men for example, who only have one strike against them. There are most certainly cases where that is true, however, there are cases where its the opposite of true, and some of those cases are among the biggest problems faced by the black community. For example, let's look at incarceration rates.

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    This is pretty old data, but the trends remain the same. Black women are incarcerated at a rate higher than any other female group. That is largely due to being black because studies show black people are more likely to be incarcerated than whites even when committing the same offense. However, black women are far less likely to be incarcerated than black men because studies also show that women receive less harsh sentences than men for committing the same crime. So in this case black women benefit from being women. This is major, because the school to prison pipeline is one of the most damaging issues facing the black community today.

    Another example is with college acceptance rates. You see much higher enrollments for black women than black men. There are many reasons for this, but one big reason is that colleges are one of the few areas where there are actual affirmative action policies in place. Women are the largest beneficiaries of affirmative action. And when colleges are trying to make sure they meet their quota, being able bring in people who cover multiple bases is beneficial. So again, being black and being a woman benefits black women. And again, this is not a trivial example because being able to get an education from a reputable institution can make all the difference in your prospects for success.

    So again, I'm not discounting misgoynoir, nor am I denying that black women are the best people to talk to to understand that topic. I'm just saying that when the topic comes up and we are looking for solutions, it has to be a true discussion not just black women dictating what needs to be done because you will never account for both sides of the issues at hand.

    Anyway, I have no beef with you or the information you present. I appreciate it and how you go about delivering. I do have a problem with your defense of the other chick because she represents everything wrong with radical feminism and women like her are a large part of why most men won't listen to you guys. Some of you think that black men don't care about your problems or don't want to hear your input. That's not true. You point out that black men often say things like "Not all men are like that" or "What about what black women do?" Your right neither of those statements are productive. However, they are natural responses when someone starts the conversation of essentially by saying "Black men hate black women and along with white racism, you guys are the source of our problems." What do you think the response to that is going to be? How far do you think the conversation will go from there?
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