The Lonious Monk wrote: »

7figz wrote: »

The Lonious Monk wrote: »

7figz wrote: »

So prosecutors don't question whether or not the accuser is telling the truth ? That's preposterous.

Being innocent until proven guilty is not treated as a "rule of thumb" saying. It's the actual law if I'm not mistaken.

The burden of proof is on the prosecution to prove that someone, accused of a crime is guilty, beyond doubt.

And a civilized society should welcome that.

Of course they do, but they don't go into an investigation assuming the victim is a liar. Best case, everyone involved goes into the situation with no bias and builds their opinion of what happened based on the evidence available. Your problem is you're trying to argue that the boys should be treated fairly which is true, but your idea of treating them fairly seems to involve dismissing the victim's allegations as bullshit unless some irrefutable evidence removes any and all doubt. That's not how shit works and it's not how shit should work. Almost no criminal would ever be prosecuted if that's the way things were done.

What I meant is simple. If they accuse the dudes of forcing her to have sex, with a gun, and there's a video - then I'd think that would've probably been one of the first things they mention about the video, not some shit about a gun being "visible" and she "felt scared". I'm expecting something along the lines of "He told me he would shoot me.... he threatened me with the gun... etc..."

How do you know none of that was said? Just because it's not in the article doesn't mean it's not the case. Article covering incident =/= prosecutor's case. The prosecutors are most likely holding a lot of details back especially due to the child's age.

I look at any case with common sense and reason. If anybody's being biased, it's someone who assumes that another person is guilty, or another person is innocent - while ignoring the facts.

So niggaz choose not to raise questions, or not consider all the facts and the people who do, are biased ? Really ?

Again, questions are good, silly loaded questions that basically assume that the victim is lying are pointless. Again, you keep pointing out that people are judging without considering facts. You don't have access to anymore facts than anyone else, yet you've clearly made up your mind that the chick is lying. So you're doing the same shit you're railing against.

So, at which point did I say the chick was lying ? It's not my fault there are holes in the story.

I know niggas wanna catch feelings when they hear a young girl was raped but that shit ain't always true, and the only way to know is to investigate / ask questions.

That's all niggaz are doing. The story sounds flaky, so questions are being raised.

I'm sure you'd want the same for yourself if you were accused of a crime.

You want niggaz to sit there ignoring things that sound like bullshit ?

What holes?

Questioning whether or not the girls was really just going to talk like she said and whether or not she knew they had a gun before going over is not poking holes in her story. That's basically just suggesting she's lying for no other reason than to call her a liar.

Darxwell wrote: »

@taeboo you're right about it being illegal but that doesnt mean these boys did something heinous. Rape should be taken seriously. It shouldnt be a tool used to teach boys "a lesson" about so-called "respecting girls" when at 12-years old this little whore knew exactly what she was doing.

That said it doesnt means she didnt get raped. The main thing is we shouldnt be calling young men rapists on a technicality which is what it is at this point. Unless you see them holding a gun to her head on the video there shouldnt be any judgment.

MikeydaGawd wrote: »

Those is some sick bastards anyway why the fuck you messing with a 12 year old Anyway