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Eazy's legacy: Is it tainted by how he died?
I think his legacy was tainted from him not writing his music, how Cube made him look, & the Dre dis too
I don't think Dre's diss had much to do with Eazy's legacy, it wasn't all that. Eazy didn't fell off, the nigga died.
I will co-sign the not writing his own material stuff though (even though Dre don't either).
Compared to everyone else, especially Pac & Big he has nothing on that level by himself, although he has contributed to great material.
You serious duke? Eazy-Duz-It is a certified classic. I agree with the not writing his own lyrics thing but this right here is bullshit. Eazy-E's album came out 1988 on Priority at a time were there basically were no other major distrubuters putting out west coast shit nor the same outlets so of course it wasn't as "POPULAR" as albums that came out almost 10 years later. What Eazy-E and nem built created the foundation for dudes like 2pac, Biggie etc.
That's why it's hard to really appreciate Biggie & 2pac cuz them dying made people start acting like they were just so large, bigger than the culture & like people really put them on THAT high of a pedestal while they were alive, even tho they weren't or didn't. Tired of all this history re-write shit. Luckily this is the IC. Outside that? 2pac & Biggie are basically Jesus & Moses.
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3 Chicago teens rape 12 year old girl... at gunpoint... post video on facebook
Some of those names sound don't sound like black though, were they black? Had to been at least one dude of another race.
As far as posting shit, i'm glad, just in general. Unlike y'all i'm not down for dumb niggas just cuz they black or w/e. I looooove my people i really do. But i'm so tired of niggas falling for traps whether they live in america or any other countries. You do criminal shit? Nigga you deserve the book. You down with agendas just to get ahead/fit in/you & your own being safe while fucking everybody else? Nigga fuck you.
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Why Do Down South Cats Like and Support Garbage Rappers?
CirocObama wrote: »I will say this tho... when Young Jeezy said "rappin ass niggas, you better do numbers" and people ran with it, that to me marked the beginning of the end of lyricism in the mainstream. You can say it started with 50, but at least he cosigned spitters that were primarily known for rapping. I wouldn't single out the south as a whole, but that particular generation of rappers led by Jeezy and Gucci definitely ushered in the era of rap where you didn't have to be lyrical. Proof: when Waka says "we don't wanna hear that dictionary rap" or some shit like that... then again, he's a fucking idiot in general anyway.
that was 2005 aka the dark ages of rap. Now in 2013, the lyrical cats sell the most and make the most money from bigger tours than their non-lyrical counterparts.
See this is my problem with alotta hip-hop fans. I agree with the overall point of the thread & the t/s, just to make it clear.
They get caught up in this cube were their point of view is what's right. You call 2005 the dark ages, right? With albums like,
"The Documentary" (The Game), "Late Registration" (Kanye West), "Be" (Common) - one of his most popular album aside from being critically aclaimed, "The B. Coming" (Beanie Sigel), "Trauma" (DJ Quik), "The Carter II" (Lil' Wayne), "The Massacre" (50 Cent) - album got mixed review, "Trill" (Bun B), "The Sound Of Revenge" (Chamillionaire), "Thug Motivation 101" - personally never liked Jeezy, but some did., "The Fundation" (Geto Boys) etc. were some of the albums that ruled mainstream 2005.
Underground/not mainstream/the rest? "A.W.O.L." (AZ), "The Minstrel Show" (Little Brother), "Slum Village" (Slum Village), "The Testament" (Cormega), "Put It On The Line" (Ghostface & Trife Da God), "The Surviving Elements" (Pete Rock), "After Taxes" (Sheek Louch), "Monkey Barz" (Sean Price) etc.
So if i argued your point with these albums & some that i didn't even include could you really call it the dark age of rap? See, for you it might be but what makes you think your opinon is law? Just cuz you disliked certain rappers/albums i should?
My point is i'm tired of people basing their opinion on hip-hop or music on memories of their own personal life. One of my favorite years in life related to music was 2001-2002 but that doesn't mean that those years were great/bad in hip-hop or everything after was trash. But i could've been like "that was the last great year(s) in hip-hop" just based off what i remember from those days even if it ain't reality like alotta people seem to do these days.
I think he's referring to the era of ringtone rap, where damn near every song had a dance. I'd say that started more around 60-07, which had its great moments too... but mostly, it was an awkward time in hip hop.
I know he is bruh but that's my point. It's all about what you remember & pay(ed) attention to. He said 2005 was the dark age but then albums like these dropped.
2006? With albums like "Hip Hop Is Dead" (Nas), "Doctor's Advocate" (Game), "Hell Hath No Fury" (Clipse), "Kingdome Come" (Jay-Z), "Thug Motivation 102" (Jeezy), "King" (T.I.), "Blue Carpet Treatment" (Snoop), "The Big Bang" (Busta), "Year Of The Dog... Again" (DMX), "My Ghetto Report Card" (E-40), "FishScale" (Ghostface), "Laugh Now, Cry Later" (Ice Cube), "4:21: The Day After" (Method Man), "Reality Check" (Juvenile), "Time Is Money" (Styles P), "Blood Money" (Mobb Deep) etc.
Are yall telling me those ringtone rappers took over the game so much that yall ignored albums like these? That's what i'm saying. It's about what YOU (he) remembers & pay attention to. & this is just the mainstream joints not even the underground joints.
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SOUL TRAIN performances were so STUPID
LOL. I never understood why the show was set-up on lipsyncing especially the great legends they had on. Don't think that's something they choose to do tho. Only a rare few didn't i think DMX didn't, Al Green or someone else didn't & a few others.
Other than that i disagree. Soul Train's legacy is still large and just looking at the amount of great artists that's been on there, crazy.
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Can i ask women a serious question about accountability with relationships? *a lil long read*
That's some young girl shit. They feel that they can get the guy they want and hope that he'll change overtime.
Older women knows what they want and what they will and won't tolerate.
Again, old arguments tho. I don't think that argument is accurate. It's more like certain older women have come to a point where they HAVE to pick a CERTAIN prototype to come help them clean up the parts they screwed up or missing in their life.
Meaning, of course if you end up being a single mother by 2 baby daddies that ain't shit you NOW gonna look for a "god fearing FATHER figure" to fill that void for your kids yourself.
