Biggie and the east coast came away looking super weak from that beef.....no one responded to tupac and tupac had too much influence even on the east coast that it made a lot of new York rappers a running joke back then
@ the bolded. You obviously weren't hip to mix tapes in that era.
And Mobb Deep responded to Pac with Drop a Gem on Em. It was a single.
You've posted those mixtapes multiple times and each time you get the same response...they were weak as fuck.....drop a gem on em was lukewarm at best
But what I mean is biggie. Jayz. Nas....sort of forgot about Mobb deep
You're bugging if you think Doo Wop's mix tapes were "weak as fuck".
In fact, I can't take your opinion seriously. Wop had NYC on lockdown from 95-98 until DJ Clue took over in the late 90s and then Kay Slay from about 01-05. After Kay Slay the internet kind of replaced mix tapes as far as being the primary outlet for new music.
But yeah, white kids in the suburbs might have been getting their info from The Source and/or Yo! MTV Raps but Doo Wop tapes were like gold. They still are.
in fact, @bck145 name ONE Doo Wop tape from 95-98 that was "weak as fuck". Here's a link to most of his tapes from that era. I'll wait.
And here we go again with Doo Wop. Fact is Pac was shitting on NYC on commercially released platinum records that EVERYONE could here. NYC responds by putting out tracks on mix tapes only NYC can hear. You can see how that is an L for NYC right? And Mobb Deep was too scared to say Pacs name on Drop a Gem on Em. Plus P begged to have his verse taken off of LA,LA. The Mobb didn't want it with the westcoast.
NYC was in a different stratosphere when all of this was going on. You'd really have to live in New York to understand what the vibe was like. New York had Hot 97 and 125th st along with Video Music Box while everybody else had Yo! MTV Raps and The Source. It was really a different world.
Remember that 2Pac interview when he said, "its like an election, I can lose New York and still win the other 49 states." Well, that's what happened. Cats in Idaho and Nebraska might have preferred Pac and Death Row but the 5 boroughs preferred that fast, uptempo flow with the metaphors, double entendres and alliteration with the mixtape DJ yelling over the track.
So I'll concede that from the perspective of a person in Nebraska it appeared that Pac was "shitting on New York". But cats who actually lived in New York didn't feel that way at all. In fact, from New York's perspective Pac went out like a sucker; he was walking around NYC at 4:00 in the morning with $60,000 worth of jewelry on and got robbed, went to prison and basically got run out of New York. Then instead of handling his business like a G he goes to a recording studio and makes a diss record. Why didn't he really get at Big and Puff instead of making diss records?
I know if I thought somebody robbed me I wouldn't go to the booth and diss him, I'd get my chain back...which Pac never did.
As far as I know Pac never got his jewelry back. Did he?
So this huge ass country agrees on something and one city doesn't? That makes that one city look like the delusional people...not the other way around like your trying to twist it
Inb4 new York is where it started nonsense....I don't care...it's music and I'm judging quality of music all that other crap isn't relative
Yes or No; Did Pac get his jewelry back?
Both parties in here have good points. But there has been one trump card thats been brought up constantly and all I see is deflection. If you have such a problem, why dont you yourself go do something instead of being fixated on the idea that these rappers should? This has come up multiple times and I havent seen one answer to that.
Here's the answer: I'm not a killer.
They are killers, or claim to be, so why kill over someone wearing the wrong color but not pedophiles?
Question: why do you expect soldiers in the military to kill and protect the country if you, yourself haven't killed anyone? Why don't you join military?
This is a flawed answer. Do you have to be a killer, to want to do something like avenge the wrongful deaths of Eric Garner and others? Sounds like an excuse. So truthfully, you're still deflecting. The Black Panthers patrolled the streets with shotguns and were ready to take on the police if need be and they werent killers. I don't expect anything from our US military because I could care less about the US military.
You avenge Eric Garners death? Nope.
If Bambatta was in my hood and I could get access to him . . .and I knew where he stayed at I'd definitely snatch his wig. I'm on the west coast, I have no idea about where he stay or who be with. But I promise you I would be all on his helmet. You on the other hand wouldn't do shit if yo own mama was raped in front of you. You would just wait until the rape was over 20 minutes later and call the police unless ol boy told u not to. Pussy nikka
This nigga still deflecting. I am an active participant in activism both on and outside the internet. What the fuck have you done? I'm still waiting for you to answer the question truthfully as to why dont you go out and do something yourself since you have such a strong opinion on what other should be doing. All you're doing is spending time internet woofin at others. Whose the real "pussy nikka" coward ass....
Let me simplify this for you and these other stupid nikkaz on here:
1. The thread title just points out the irony and contradiction of these so called tough guys in our black communities. Everybody knows 99% of rappers are fugazi.
2. I'm not talking about activism in general, I'm talking specifically about aa known child molester responsible for touching hundreds of boys. I'm not talking about politics, I'm talking about giving a nikka dirt nap.
3. I've been to jail and can make an analogy here. If that child molester was in my housing unit I would put work in . . .If he's not in my housing unit it don't make me pussy to expect other nikkaz IN his housing unit to put in work . . . In fact I believe it's their obligation. I'm not talking about not Eric Garner, this shit is specific to child molesters.
4. You stupid nikkaz on here remind me of Camron on that 60 minutes interview where he says he wouldn't call the cops on a serial killer that he was in his neighborhood, that he would just change neighborhoods.
5. All of you dumb motherfukkers asking me why I don't make hunting down child molesters my profession I have only one request. Give me a fukking address of a known child molester or shut the fukk up.