Undefeatable wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »Undefeatable wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »Undefeatable wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »Undefeatable wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »numbaz...80's baby wrote: »optimistic wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »optimistic wrote: »female drinks, gets drunk, gets fucked anybody's fault but hers. I get drunk, drive home get stopped on the way by the cops i go to jail. we should all be responsible for our poor choices
Lol
Ur comparing apples and oranges
Getting drunk and than being tooken advantage of and or raped is not the same as getting drunk and than proceeding to drive endangering ur life as well as the lives of others
actually not. being drunk impares your judgement, and if a female is so drunk that she doesn't remember saying "yes" it's still considered taking advantage of her and her poor decision to drink too much.
roadblocks for drunk drivers also take advantage of drunk people
GOAT post. Being too impaired to be held responsible for saying "yes" to fucking should be no different than being held responsible for saying "yes" to drinking and driving.
negro are u serious? lol
so if i get drunk, proceed to drive, and i end up ramming into your mother's car killing her i shouldn't be held responsible for MY actions?
Could that be what he's saying? Think about it. People are held responsible for driving drunk.
right but he implied that just because women who get drunk and are than raped are not held responsible for their actions, well at least not legally, nor should drunk drivers....
He's saying that both should be held responsible for their actions. The drunk driver for driving drunk, and the woman for getting drunk and sleeping with dude -- i.e. dude should not be seen as a rapist.
right....reread my post
and even than your operating under the assumption that a drunk woman cannot be raped. or that most drunk women claim rape but are lying. lol... plus she shouldn't be held responsible for the actions of her rapist
its a bad analogy anyways...
I did. Now reread mine.
I am not operating under either assumption.
If a woman gets drunk, and is raped, that is a serious crime. (Just as serious as it would be if she were sober.) But getting drunk and sleeping with a dude does not = rape.
no one ever said that it automatically equals rape
but if someone is semi-conscious, slurring their words, barely can walk and someone who is sober or buzzed than decides to have sex with them imho and in the opinion of the law it can=rape....even than t has to proven in court to be true
an entirely different situation than when a person drives to a club, decides to gets sloppy drunk without having planned on a way home that doesn't involve them themselves driving, proceeds to drive home and than is stopped and/or rams into a mini van
you obviously feel that it is unfair, but that's life... moral of the story, don't have sex with a woman who is obviously not in her right mind unless she is your girl
Passing out level of drunkenness is different. Drunkenness does not have to rise to that level.
The arguments against Gay Marriage and the arguments against Interracial Marriage are different only in the way that the prejudice behind both movements take form. Racial prejudice and Religious (although also mixed with sexual & gender) prejudice are both in the end just prejudice, the problem is not that your religious beliefs about homosexuality are wrong (although I'd say they are because they're as oppressive as any kind of racism, sexism, classism, etc), but that the Law cannot be informed by just our personal prejudices or biases.
I've heard some defenders of traditional marriage say that they're really just defending their religious liberty by attacking gay marriage and defending traditional marriage (because their religion obligates them to do so). But their religious liberty is not being forfeited by allowing gay marriage, religious liberty is about making sure you're afforded the same rights under the Law as everyone else regardless of how you identity religiously and allowing gay people to marry in no way gets in the way of that.
Also Civil Unions are NOT enough not only do marriages confer economic and financial advantages that civil unions don't have alternet.org/story/57722/why_civil_unions_aren%27t_enough, they also confer social advantages, (i.e. social acceptance). "Separate but equal" is not and historically has never been equal, the very act of segregating a portion of people is more similar to exiling these people from "us normals" and only perpetuating their inferiority.
As for the idea that the "virtue" of "masculinity" is at stake, sorry but the meaning of masculinity itself changes constantly depending on time and place. Nor is it clear why exactly our understanding of masculinity (in the hip hop community, black community, American community) is good for us anyways. In fact it seems like our "hyper-masculinity" more likely produces physically and sexually abusive relationships with women, and violent and domineering relationships with other men.
This bullshit is your first post YOU only came here to defend your ass fucking friends.
The meaning of masculinity changes but it is supposed to be an organic change not a fucking socially engineered change implemented by faggots. Men know what real masculinity is or at least we used to know. A mature man with a mature sense of masculinity is not violent or abusive those behaviors have become prevalent among the newer generations as result of being raised without a sense of how a man should act. We no longer know what manhood is. Men in western society are losing their indentity black or white they are confused.
You faggots are out to change the soul of the nation why can't you just pass a law that says civil unions must be given equal rights with marriages. What you really what is for the rest of us to accept you to like you and condone homosexuality as a valid lifestyle. but this will never happen no matter what law you pass sexuality and race are two very different things. just choose another fucking name and we would not be having any problems.
What faggots and their supporters are doing is ostracizing religious people from society,if gay marriage passes no religious person can get a marriage license in america and keep a clean conscience because it would be like buying into an overtly corrupt institution so their religious liberty is being taken from them. Look if gay marriage becomes the law of the land it will mean the war has only just started i cannot see america becoming sweden.
SEXUAL race mixing is also not a good thing for black people but i don't want to stray the thread.
lol!! got damn this is comic gold!!
waterproof wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »waterproof wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »waterproof wrote: »Truth Writer wrote: »The ethereal truth:
A man fucking another man (or two women fucking) did not CREATE STDs.
Divorce rates in this country are astronomical with straight marriages by themselves.
Homosexuality doesn't put anyone's life in any immediate dangers.
So fuck it, why not? LGBT folk getting married doesn't fuck society up anymore than it already is.
Yes it does the only thing worse than homosexuality is feminism they both fundamentally change gender roles and corrupt society, people are being far too selfish only thinking about an immediate danger, but it's a long term DANGER/cancer that will eat away at a nation. they are going to start teaching children that this shit is normal and should be accepted as an equal lifestyle, when in reality homosexuality is a mental illness.
It confuses boys and it confuses girls about the right way to act.
Only homosexuals, in the closet homosexuals and those that been western civilize only say that it don't effect society, all the shit that is being pushed in our lives do have an effect...
you got kids in elementary at an all time high questioning their gender...
i know one lousy, lazy ass woman who used to watch that gay channel on MTV with her son who was in the 4th grade everyday and i told her that shit aint healthy for her son, then months later she told me that her son thinks he gay...
yall is out your fuckin minds
we also have kids in elementary who are having sex, bringing guns to school, etc.... so what is your point?
societies that have legalized gay marriage. it has had no negative effect whatsoever....
cus no one cares
and really once i think about it the government should get out the marriage business ....
smh. silly american lol
SILLY ASS EUROPEAN and your greek like culture that wasn't even allowed into the motherland the creator of the world had the ancestors to keep you from us because you are heathens, that practice beating women and having sex with males, children and animals
now my point is that it's EFFECTS KIDS AND SOCIETY you HEATHEN, you just proved my point by trying to be all smart and shit..
silly ass european, i see why yall asses was in the dark ages
lol
i'm not european bruh....
and if you so concerned w/ kids/moral fabric of society why not ban certain music, violent movies and video games, porn etc...
keep building that straw man.......
The Lonious Monk wrote: »Stopitfive wrote: »Brothers and sisters... Spike made those statements months ago... Ask yourself y other ppl r mentioning it... He didn't go on a crusade... He just said fuck it...
No harm no foul...
Luke can eat a dick...
Maybe because they wanted to see the movie before they judged? Face it, Spike's motivations came more from personal animosity towards QT than from any pure problem he found with the movie. He can't have any pure reasoning against the movie because he hasn't seen it. He read the premise of the movie, made up some kind of bullshit argument about it insulting his ancestors, and purposefully threw hate out there.
How is QT at fault here? All he did was make a movie. No one that has actually seen the movie has really come out and said anything valid against it. The only real criticism being launched is the use of the N word, which should be expected given the subject matter. Maybe you don't like the movie or the subject matter. That's cool, but do so for your own reasons. Don't have a problem with it because of what Spike said because Spike is clearly not coming from a truly sincere place.