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  • Re: Meek Mill basically goes "But what about black on black crime" on instagram...

    i ro ny wrote: »
    meek mill didnt "basically" say anything like the threadstarter made it seem.






    he said exactly what he said.

    Low key, I think it's pushed to make a black person talking about the violence in our cities at the hands of our own. A taboo thing to talk about. Like, people are in such a rush to disown anyone that speaks on the crime in our cities by the hands of our own race is an issue much larger than cops killing blacks

    Moralisticly cops killing blacks is a much larger issue seeing as they are sworn to serve and protect and they bastardize their main purpose into a power trip.

    But on some societal shit, crime in the inner city is a much greater issue. And has much longer standing consequences. Because it's such a strong thing, people do what people do. Attack the thing that's deemed less of a challenge. Or what is deeemed by most as the safe righteous fight.

    You can think of the most loved celeberity like Beyoncé. As loved as she is and her fans ride for her heavy. If she Eva spoke on crime in Chicago in a way that it doesn't fully place blame on the government. Her career would be over, her own hive would disown her. Bet that

    Given their platform, blk public figures have always been encouraged to speak on blk issues...even the violence in our communities

    Many focus on systemic racism because police brutality and crime within black communities both derive from structural inequalities. Not because it's less a challenge or a less controversial stance--even for a celebrity

    It's also extremely short sighted to argue crime is the greater societal issue or that it has far reaching consequences opposed to police brutality. And that's not to say crime isnt a big problem. But you are deflecting from the fact that a lot of the crime and violence we see is fueled by inequality, an ineffective justice system, and police misconduct

    By that i mean, police misconduct, inequality and an ineffective justice system creates a toxic environment where ppl are less likely to report crime and work with the police; and more likely to take the law into their own hands and/or create their own laws/means to an end. Families are left broken

    The formation of street gangs in the blk community, when local vigilantes organized and armed themselves to help keep their neighborhoods safe, for instance, was initially a response to police brutality and white racism. Obviously things spun out of control, especially when drugs were funneled into a lot of these neighborhoods

    So what we see is not surprising. And the outcomes are replicated under similar conditions. See Mexico. See Brazil. See the middle East.

    Look at native americans. Their young are literally killing themselves at an unprecedented rate

    So yes rightfully Beyonce or any other blk celebrity would then face backlash if they spoke about the violence in our communities WITHOUT nuance and historical context....it's irresponsible to say the least

    In Meeks case, he is doing his fans and our communities a huge disservice perpetuating the myth blk ppl, BLM don't care as much about crime within their communities as they do about addressing a discriminatory criminal justice system that targets them. Deflects attention from the real issues. How about advocate for funding/raise funding for anti violence community programs in Chicago like Cease Fire that has lost a lot of the governemnt funding they depended on????

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  • Re: I lost count on how many times i cheated (((lmaooo))))

    Kai wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    If you dont belive nor want to be in an monogamous relationship dont get into one.

    I am in total agreement with you there, my point was more about society making it seem like 1. That's the only way to be in a committed relationship and that 2. Being a male who is fulfilling your biological imperatives makes you a bad person

    am with you to a certain extent when it comes to monogamy, but then again why is it then ok to police a woman's sexuality which I've seen you do?

    that said, i think monogamy is unnatural for both genders and takes work... so stepping on alone, doesn't automatically make one this irredeemable, evil person

    what gets me is the dishonesty

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  • Re: Vice Special : Black Women With Guns

    The last thing black women need is guns


    Expound

    I'm for more gun regulation and less guns but until that happens we all have to protect ourselves

    Especially with the police being so trigger happy

    Black women are one if not the most marginalized group of people in America, even at the hands of those of their own race.

    That said

    Black women argue and fight over stupid shit all the time, and are more proned to do some left shit than most niggaz.

    More guns in their hands isn't what they need.

    Lol

    I really not comfortable with the idea of guns being in the hands of more ppl, regardless of gender and race

    But ppl gotta protect themselves some how, especially the most vulnerable amongst us

    That said, this idea that blk women, specifically, are mentally/emotionally incapable of being responsible gun owners is beyond silly and is reminiscent of past arguments used by racist to disarm blk men and women

    Millions of women, including blk women, already own guns and are gun enthusiasts yet the world hasnt gone to hell

    Not to mention, men, regardless of race, are more likely to commit acts of violence, including gun violence, than women
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  • Re: THE OFFICIAL BLACK HISTORY MONTH THREAD


    'The yearly ritual of Black History Month ideally strips away the illusions of our national myth'

    EDDIE S. GLAUDE, JR. @ESGLAUDE
    FEB 9, 2017 8:14 AM EST


    Since its formal beginning as Negro History Week in 1926, Black History Month has revealed the “white lie” of American history. It has been a project aimed at correcting the misrepresentations and stereotypes of black life throughout the country and at vindicating black people by celebrating our extraordinary achievements as a race.


    Negro History Week represented a formalization of what was already taking place throughout black America. Laypersons and scholars created an archive of black achievement to respond to the racist claims that African Americans contributed little or nothing to world history — claims often used to justify our second-class status and white superiority.

    The historian Carter G. Woodson, co-founder of the Association for the Study of Negro Life and History (ASLAH) in 1915 and the Journal of Negro History in 1916, understood the significance of celebrating black history to uprooting the idea of whiteness that devalued black people.


    In a 1932 editorial for the Chicago Defender entitled “History Week and What it Means,” Woodson made it abundantly clear that full recognition of the broad contributions of African Americans was essential to dispelling the misrepresentations that sustained the idea that only white people could bear the benefits and burdens of citizenship. As he put it, “nless Negro History Week can be used to accomplish such a purpose the mere celebration will be meaningless.”

    We would end up attending Black History Month events, delivering and listening to speeches about black people, and celebrating how far we have come and how far we have to go. But the “white lie” of America history would remain intact.

    Black History Month, then, is more than a celebration of black achievement. It is a political and moral project that exposes the willful ignorance about black people that shapes American history and informs our present troubles.


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    Ajackson17
  • Re: According to Bloomberg Magazine, inheritance is the biggest factor in income inequality. ..


    also according to a Duke University study published last year at every income level, blacks spend less than similarly situated whites-i.e., more of each dollar of income is going to consumption

    http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/2332649216647748

    “Retail desertification in racially segregated neighborhoods, restricted access to affordable credit for blacks, and consumer racial discrimination, we argue, result in lower overall spending for blacks at all income levels,” they said

    now I wish we'd begin to get rid of this idea the idea we (Black people) spend more of our income on useless assets than others
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