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  • Re: Top 5 Issues Facing The Black Community

    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    The man is correct and fuck you if you cannot see it

    black people want to end white supremacy but don't want to stop killing each other
    black people want to be wealthier but keep voting for people with policies that make them poorer
    black people want stronger families but keep having children out of wedlock


    In essence black don't want to do what is necessary to stop white supremacy all niggas want to do is cry and complain and bitch and moan about racism but white people don't really care about your tears they just throw us a few crumbs to get us to shut the fuck up a little.

    Who are the black people doing the bold? Sure, it seems like he's right if you relegate all black people down to the group you're describing, but what percentage of black people does that even represent? How many blacks are really out here killing other blacks? How many blacks are out there compulsively having kids out of wedlock? The problem with bullshit like this isn't that there are no blacks to which it applies. The problem is that the people that push this bullshit and the fools that believe it apply it in a far more generalized manner than reality supports.

    The black folks i am talking about are a loud minority and this loud minority is making us all look bad.The black folks in the majority we don't have to worry about them but their cousins in the ghetto are fucking it up for everybody. For example the city of Chicago SHOULD be a disgrace to all black people in america

    Yeah, but who is using that loud minority to make us all look bad. Black people aren't putting our lowest common denominator out there and depicting those people as the average black person in america.

    And yeah, I agree Chicago is a disgrace and I'm one of the people on here that have criticized the people that go out of their way to defend the fuckery that goes on in that system. That said, you can't look at Chicago and blame what's going on there on a victim mentality. There is a lot of shit that happened in that city to make it what it is and not all of it is on the black residents.

    I think i know where you are going this but This is not about the white controlled media the media only reports problems that exists. They may shine more light on our bad behavior but if that behavior did not exist there would be nothing for them to show.

    I was just using Chicago as an example but the problems in Chicago can be found nationwide in different degrees of intensity. The issue affecting Chicago can be found affecting other communities ALL OVER america but those communities are nowhere as violent. There is something unique about the mental state of black people in america that causes these problems that are faced by all people in america to result in such extreme degeneration. Is it the victim mentality??? Yes i believe it is. The victim mentality causes low self esteem WHICH in turn causes all the rest of the issue on that list.

    lol Yeah, if everything was perfect, then nothing would be wrong. Every community has it's problems. It would be a disservice to any community to misrepresent it. It's not like blacks are the only ones this happens tool. It's the same reason why every hispanic is seen as an illegal and every Arab/Middle Easterner is treated like a terrorist. You're being delusional if you don't believe that has a negative effect on the community as a whole.

    And I don't deny that there may be something unique with in the culture of certain black areas that contribute to the extreme violence scene in those areas. Still, using what happens in those communities to indict all black people in this country is illogical. The fact is that no matter how you twist, you can't boil all of the problems in the black community down to internal problems especially when most of those internal problems were created from external problems that haven't been resolved.

    don't entertain him

    and the fallacy of comparing non blk neighborhoods with blk neighborhoods is that blks have different histories of oppression than other communities, and it’s unfair to compare existing struggles

    and even then when black neighborhoods are compared with white neighborhoods of similar income levels, 9 times out of 10 you see similar rates of crime

    there's nothing uniquely defective about "blk culture"
    zzombieThe Lonious Monk
  • Re: Ayesha Curry Vs. Thots Pt. 2

    deadeye wrote: »
    Like Water wrote: »
    Question: Is there such a thing as a feminist that's attractive, heterosexual, physically fit and in a stable and happy relationship? Every time I see one, they on some mud duck, fat ass, single/gay, unhappy shit.

    Lol

    I know when I think of intelligent, strong, blk feminist I think of: assata shakur, angela davis, bell hooks, etc


    It's an insult to compare them to the crazies that dominate today's feminist movement.

    Shud up ol man

    They were once labeled as outsiders or in some cases crazy when they were pointing out the sexism in the civil rights movement and in the blk panther party


    zzombiedeadeye
  • Re: Ayesha Curry Vs. Thots Pt. 2

    jono wrote: »
    Ita a fair assessment. If someone tells you or acts like there is only one way to behave and act to be worthy of respect then you would be offended too.

    The problem is here is she isn't doing the judging. She is being pointed out as a standard and folks reject that standard. Ain't shit wrong with that. Yall complain if you think a nigga should only dress and behave a certain way to be worthy of respect.

    Yep

    It’s intertwined with the politics of respectability

    Her persona is being used as another opportunity for the basement dwellers to attack any woman who isn’t buttoned up, any woman who has an overtly sexy image, and any woman who doesn’t meet the measurement for “wifeability" or better yet respect gets the “we need more women like Ayesha”

    Which is obviously problematic

    And it is dangerous for the women who are being attacked for not “living up” to an ideal I'm sure they never declared any allegiance to in the first place

    Now she is catching some of the blow back

    Her initial tweets that started this whole thing about being covered up were a lil problematic as well, so she isn't exactly innocent. In a roundabout way she insinuated that women who dress a certain way are doing it for the wrong reasons, as if women don't have other reasons besides the male gaze to prefer a certain style of clothing

    It's unfortunate, but she'll survive

    honest question why do women wear things like thong bikinis... short shorts... and high cut skirts... for other than male attention.

    Lol

    Women, like men, often dress according to fashion. So maybe she may just want to be trendy and stylish

    We love our bodies. And like the way it makes our bodies look

    Or maybe because it's hot

    For the sake of knowing most other women you know wouldn't be able to pull the same outfit off

    Not as if there is anything wrong with a heterosexual woman seeking male attention- feeling desirable and attractive feels good

    There are other ways to gain a man's attention. What we choose to wear is just one way

    Same as when a man dresses a certain way, or puts on cologne, or buys a particular car to attract women

    If me simply wearing a thong bikini provokes a man into groping me or calling me out my name that is out of my control and should reflect poorly upon him

    All this talk of what should be considered respectable is just another way to police and govern over anyone who doesn't adhere to the traditional values of white, Christian, hetero men

    but you can be trendy and stylish without wearing short shorts or a thong bikini...

    btw the last part has nothing to do with white... Christian hetero men... in pretty much all cultures the less the woman wears the less respect she gets from men.. not saying its right but its the truth..


    also outside of the "its hot" argument every point you said for reasons women wear clothes like that.. point to getting attention... but you cant dress like that and want attention but get mad at the attention you get...

    Attention is one thing, but disrespect is another

    And in many cultures around the world the women walk around basically nude

    Go to some remote villages in Africa, the women are basically nude


    its only "disrespect" if the woman is not feeling the dude that is giving her that attention... because if she feeling said dude he can hug her and grab her ass and guess what she wont care.. but let a dude she dont like say "damn you thick" he "thirsty" and "disrespectful"

    Lol

    No matter how you wanna spin it

    Name calling, groping without permission in most cases is generally considered rude and disrespectful

    That's why these behaviors tend to be reserved for "thots", a.k.a. women who are engaging in what one would consider largely undesirable behavior
    deadeye
  • Re: Ayesha Curry Vs. Thots Pt. 2

    blackrain wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    Ita a fair assessment. If someone tells you or acts like there is only one way to behave and act to be worthy of respect then you would be offended too.

    The problem is here is she isn't doing the judging. She is being pointed out as a standard and folks reject that standard. Ain't shit wrong with that. Yall complain if you think a nigga should only dress and behave a certain way to be worthy of respect.

    Yep

    It’s intertwined with the politics of respectability

    Her persona is being used as another opportunity for the basement dwellers to attack any woman who isn’t buttoned up, any woman who has an overtly sexy image, and any woman who doesn’t meet the measurement for “wifeability" or better yet respect gets the “we need more women like Ayesha”

    Which is obviously problematic

    And it is dangerous for the women who are being attacked for not “living up” to an ideal I'm sure they never declared any allegiance to in the first place

    Now she is catching some of the blow back

    Her initial tweets that started this whole thing about being covered up were a lil problematic as well, so she isn't exactly innocent. In a roundabout way she insinuated that women who dress a certain way are doing it for the wrong reasons, as if women don't have other reasons besides the male gaze to prefer a certain style of clothing

    It's unfortunate, but she'll survive

    That's not her fault though. She didn't say that, other people put that image of being the standard onto her. People coming at her personally for some shit she didn't do, say, or ask for. That's why people say those who got negative things to say are projecting their own insecurities onto a person who don't got shit to do with how they feel. If somebody simply living their life can make you not like them, you're the problem.

    Her initial tweets weren't even that bad, people just made more of them than what they were on some hit dog will holler shit. People want her to be the stereotype of an athlete's wife so bad and the fact that she's not pisses some people off.

    Yes, she doesn't deserve a lot of the personal attacks

    But if we are being honest, while her comments were not atypical of many Christian women, they were really unnecessary

    They were also self congratulating and judgemental

    The type that usually invoke a strong reaction, one way or another
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  • Re: Ayesha Curry Vs. Thots Pt. 2

    jono wrote: »
    Ita a fair assessment. If someone tells you or acts like there is only one way to behave and act to be worthy of respect then you would be offended too.

    The problem is here is she isn't doing the judging. She is being pointed out as a standard and folks reject that standard. Ain't shit wrong with that. Yall complain if you think a nigga should only dress and behave a certain way to be worthy of respect.

    Yep

    It’s intertwined with the politics of respectability

    Her persona is being used as another opportunity for the basement dwellers to attack any woman who isn’t buttoned up, any woman who has an overtly sexy image, and any woman who doesn’t meet the measurement for “wifeability" or better yet respect gets the “we need more women like Ayesha”

    Which is obviously problematic

    And it is dangerous for the women who are being attacked for not “living up” to an ideal I'm sure they never declared any allegiance to in the first place

    Now she is catching some of the blow back

    Her initial tweets that started this whole thing about being covered up were a lil problematic as well, so she isn't exactly innocent. In a roundabout way she insinuated that women who dress a certain way are doing it for the wrong reasons, as if women don't have other reasons besides the male gaze to prefer a certain style of clothing

    It's unfortunate, but she'll survive

    honest question why do women wear things like thong bikinis... short shorts... and high cut skirts... for other than male attention.

    Lol

    Women, like men, often dress according to fashion. So maybe she may just want to be trendy and stylish

    We love our bodies. And like the way it makes our bodies look

    Or maybe because it's hot

    For the sake of knowing most other women you know wouldn't be able to pull the same outfit off

    Not as if there is anything wrong with a heterosexual woman seeking male attention- feeling desirable and attractive feels good

    There are other ways to gain a man's attention. What we choose to wear is just one way

    Same as when a man dresses a certain way, or puts on cologne, or buys a particular car to attract women

    If me simply wearing a thong bikini provokes a man into groping me or calling me out my name that is out of my control and should reflect poorly upon him

    All this talk of what should be considered respectable is just another way to police and govern over anyone who doesn't adhere to the traditional values of white, Christian, hetero men

    but you can be trendy and stylish without wearing short shorts or a thong bikini...

    btw the last part has nothing to do with white... Christian hetero men... in pretty much all cultures the less the woman wears the less respect she gets from men.. not saying its right but its the truth..


    also outside of the "its hot" argument every point you said for reasons women wear clothes like that.. point to getting attention... but you cant dress like that and want attention but get mad at the attention you get...

    Attention is one thing, but disrespect is another

    And in many cultures around the world the women walk around basically nude

    Go to some remote villages in Africa, the women are basically nude


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