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  • Re: Ayesha Curry Vs. Thots Pt. 2

    deadeye wrote: »
    Like Water wrote: »
    Question: Is there such a thing as a feminist that's attractive, heterosexual, physically fit and in a stable and happy relationship? Every time I see one, they on some mud duck, fat ass, single/gay, unhappy shit.

    Lol

    I know when I think of intelligent, strong, blk feminist I think of: assata shakur, angela davis, bell hooks, etc


    It's an insult to compare them to the crazies that dominate today's feminist movement.

    Shud up ol man

    They were once labeled as outsiders or in some cases crazy when they were pointing out the sexism in the civil rights movement and in the blk panther party


    zzombiedeadeye
  • Re: Ayesha Curry Vs. Thots Pt. 2

    jono wrote: »
    Ita a fair assessment. If someone tells you or acts like there is only one way to behave and act to be worthy of respect then you would be offended too.

    The problem is here is she isn't doing the judging. She is being pointed out as a standard and folks reject that standard. Ain't shit wrong with that. Yall complain if you think a nigga should only dress and behave a certain way to be worthy of respect.

    Yep

    It’s intertwined with the politics of respectability

    Her persona is being used as another opportunity for the basement dwellers to attack any woman who isn’t buttoned up, any woman who has an overtly sexy image, and any woman who doesn’t meet the measurement for “wifeability" or better yet respect gets the “we need more women like Ayesha”

    Which is obviously problematic

    And it is dangerous for the women who are being attacked for not “living up” to an ideal I'm sure they never declared any allegiance to in the first place

    Now she is catching some of the blow back

    Her initial tweets that started this whole thing about being covered up were a lil problematic as well, so she isn't exactly innocent. In a roundabout way she insinuated that women who dress a certain way are doing it for the wrong reasons, as if women don't have other reasons besides the male gaze to prefer a certain style of clothing

    It's unfortunate, but she'll survive

    honest question why do women wear things like thong bikinis... short shorts... and high cut skirts... for other than male attention.

    Lol

    Women, like men, often dress according to fashion. So maybe she may just want to be trendy and stylish

    We love our bodies. And like the way it makes our bodies look

    Or maybe because it's hot

    For the sake of knowing most other women you know wouldn't be able to pull the same outfit off

    Not as if there is anything wrong with a heterosexual woman seeking male attention- feeling desirable and attractive feels good

    There are other ways to gain a man's attention. What we choose to wear is just one way

    Same as when a man dresses a certain way, or puts on cologne, or buys a particular car to attract women

    If me simply wearing a thong bikini provokes a man into groping me or calling me out my name that is out of my control and should reflect poorly upon him

    All this talk of what should be considered respectable is just another way to police and govern over anyone who doesn't adhere to the traditional values of white, Christian, hetero men

    but you can be trendy and stylish without wearing short shorts or a thong bikini...

    btw the last part has nothing to do with white... Christian hetero men... in pretty much all cultures the less the woman wears the less respect she gets from men.. not saying its right but its the truth..


    also outside of the "its hot" argument every point you said for reasons women wear clothes like that.. point to getting attention... but you cant dress like that and want attention but get mad at the attention you get...

    Attention is one thing, but disrespect is another

    And in many cultures around the world the women walk around basically nude

    Go to some remote villages in Africa, the women are basically nude


    its only "disrespect" if the woman is not feeling the dude that is giving her that attention... because if she feeling said dude he can hug her and grab her ass and guess what she wont care.. but let a dude she dont like say "damn you thick" he "thirsty" and "disrespectful"

    Lol

    No matter how you wanna spin it

    Name calling, groping without permission in most cases is generally considered rude and disrespectful

    That's why these behaviors tend to be reserved for "thots", a.k.a. women who are engaging in what one would consider largely undesirable behavior
    deadeye
  • Re: Ayesha Curry Vs. Thots Pt. 2

    blackrain wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    Ita a fair assessment. If someone tells you or acts like there is only one way to behave and act to be worthy of respect then you would be offended too.

    The problem is here is she isn't doing the judging. She is being pointed out as a standard and folks reject that standard. Ain't shit wrong with that. Yall complain if you think a nigga should only dress and behave a certain way to be worthy of respect.

    Yep

    It’s intertwined with the politics of respectability

    Her persona is being used as another opportunity for the basement dwellers to attack any woman who isn’t buttoned up, any woman who has an overtly sexy image, and any woman who doesn’t meet the measurement for “wifeability" or better yet respect gets the “we need more women like Ayesha”

    Which is obviously problematic

    And it is dangerous for the women who are being attacked for not “living up” to an ideal I'm sure they never declared any allegiance to in the first place

    Now she is catching some of the blow back

    Her initial tweets that started this whole thing about being covered up were a lil problematic as well, so she isn't exactly innocent. In a roundabout way she insinuated that women who dress a certain way are doing it for the wrong reasons, as if women don't have other reasons besides the male gaze to prefer a certain style of clothing

    It's unfortunate, but she'll survive

    That's not her fault though. She didn't say that, other people put that image of being the standard onto her. People coming at her personally for some shit she didn't do, say, or ask for. That's why people say those who got negative things to say are projecting their own insecurities onto a person who don't got shit to do with how they feel. If somebody simply living their life can make you not like them, you're the problem.

    Her initial tweets weren't even that bad, people just made more of them than what they were on some hit dog will holler shit. People want her to be the stereotype of an athlete's wife so bad and the fact that she's not pisses some people off.

    Yes, she doesn't deserve a lot of the personal attacks

    But if we are being honest, while her comments were not atypical of many Christian women, they were really unnecessary

    They were also self congratulating and judgemental

    The type that usually invoke a strong reaction, one way or another
    gnszzombieAggyAFCopperLcnsdbyROYALTYLPastWhoisDonG???Abraxas deadeyeMorganFreemanKingAfrica United
  • Re: Ayesha Curry Vs. Thots Pt. 2

    jono wrote: »
    Ita a fair assessment. If someone tells you or acts like there is only one way to behave and act to be worthy of respect then you would be offended too.

    The problem is here is she isn't doing the judging. She is being pointed out as a standard and folks reject that standard. Ain't shit wrong with that. Yall complain if you think a nigga should only dress and behave a certain way to be worthy of respect.

    Yep

    It’s intertwined with the politics of respectability

    Her persona is being used as another opportunity for the basement dwellers to attack any woman who isn’t buttoned up, any woman who has an overtly sexy image, and any woman who doesn’t meet the measurement for “wifeability" or better yet respect gets the “we need more women like Ayesha”

    Which is obviously problematic

    And it is dangerous for the women who are being attacked for not “living up” to an ideal I'm sure they never declared any allegiance to in the first place

    Now she is catching some of the blow back

    Her initial tweets that started this whole thing about being covered up were a lil problematic as well, so she isn't exactly innocent. In a roundabout way she insinuated that women who dress a certain way are doing it for the wrong reasons, as if women don't have other reasons besides the male gaze to prefer a certain style of clothing

    It's unfortunate, but she'll survive

    honest question why do women wear things like thong bikinis... short shorts... and high cut skirts... for other than male attention.

    Lol

    Women, like men, often dress according to fashion. So maybe she may just want to be trendy and stylish

    We love our bodies. And like the way it makes our bodies look

    Or maybe because it's hot

    For the sake of knowing most other women you know wouldn't be able to pull the same outfit off

    Not as if there is anything wrong with a heterosexual woman seeking male attention- feeling desirable and attractive feels good

    There are other ways to gain a man's attention. What we choose to wear is just one way

    Same as when a man dresses a certain way, or puts on cologne, or buys a particular car to attract women

    If me simply wearing a thong bikini provokes a man into groping me or calling me out my name that is out of my control and should reflect poorly upon him

    All this talk of what should be considered respectable is just another way to police and govern over anyone who doesn't adhere to the traditional values of white, Christian, hetero men

    but you can be trendy and stylish without wearing short shorts or a thong bikini...

    btw the last part has nothing to do with white... Christian hetero men... in pretty much all cultures the less the woman wears the less respect she gets from men.. not saying its right but its the truth..


    also outside of the "its hot" argument every point you said for reasons women wear clothes like that.. point to getting attention... but you cant dress like that and want attention but get mad at the attention you get...

    Attention is one thing, but disrespect is another

    And in many cultures around the world the women walk around basically nude

    Go to some remote villages in Africa, the women are basically nude


    gnsAggyAFWhoisDonG???Abraxas rip.dillaa.manndeadeyeHuey_CLos216
  • Re: Video: Black Woman In Police Custody Dies After Being Forcefully Removed From Hospital

    Im confused to as why they cops were call in in the first place.What am missing? why were the cops involved at all.

    I said this before .. and ill say this again.. Most of these people dont value your humanity.. You have to really internalize what that means.

    The cops were called because she refused to leave the hospital room to be discharged at the request of the attending physician

    Plenty of ppl at fault here

    The officer

    But than I blame the physician and nurses who obviously dismissed her pleas

    Happens a lot though, especially with ppl with whom medical staff suspects is a drug addict

    Remember when a similar incident made some waves when a young blk woman named Anna Brown died in a jail cell from blood clots after being forced out a hospital



    Never felt it got the attention it deserved

    This was the NYC incident?

    No, St Louis

    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/29/nation/la-na-nn-st.-louis-homeless-woman-death20120327

    In light of the events in Ferguson now Cleveland, we gotta begin to address the racial disparities in health outcomes occurring in our health system

    Studies, for ex, suggest physicians spend less time examining black patients....this is especially troubling since now more than ever private physicians are hell bent on seeing as many patients as possible to make a profit

    Obviously this leads to patients, especially blk patients, being misdiagnosed or patients not receiving the proper treatment

    Than we continue to be the hardest hit by soaring medical costs

    All of which impacts an already stunted black wealth
    Rasta.