Sour wrote: »

DarkRaiden wrote: »

Stop citing what happened in the comics as absolute truth. use their powersets and personalities to see who would win. Because comics do a lot of bullshit. Like where Spiderman beat Hulk, was too fast for Thor, beat Firelord, etc. Things like that. It's why you can't always take what actually happened for the absolute truth of what would happen. You look at context clues, the consistency of the event and how they perform against others of similar power.

Also if you want to do it that way, Thor beat Surfer and killed Sentry, Beta Ray Bill drew with Thor, Surfer smacked Beta Ray Bill so Thor>Sentry>Thor>Sentry etc. and Thor>Surfer>Beta Ray Bill=Thor

Wait in that other avengers issue where Norman Osbourne formed another group, I thought he manipulated Sentry into going against the avengers. Dude ripped Ares in half and beat Thor to a bloody pulp but also in previous comics someone posted Blue Marvel beating Sentry, the thing is Blue Marvel's powerset is better than Sentry, I'm not just saying this cause he's black but his strength is way higher than sentry, as well as his speed being pretty much the speed of light maybe faster and he has some other molecular power shit similar to the Surfer.

Beta Ray Bill, I thought beat Thor and isn't hulk stronger than Thor. He was able to lift mjoiner(sp) off pure strength alone.

If anything, Blue Marvel/Surfer is equal >> Sentry >> Thor but I could be wrong.

The Hulk can't lift mjolnir on pure strength. If that was shown in a comic then it must've been a what if or perhaps in that Avengers Assemble nonsense. The Hulk is stronger than Thor when he reach certain levels of anger. The whole Blue Marvel / Sentry power level in regards to the other heavy hitters is strange..When they were introduced, without a doubt they were meant to be above the likes of Thor and Surfer in power..however, Sentry was killed by Thor (whether you believe Sentry allowed this to happen or not). BM didn't have a low showing, it's just that Marvel didn't develop the character, most likely because the majority of their audience wouldn't support BM..but in their one encounter, I'd say BM was more powerful than Sentry.

I don't think he has the heart issue anymore..that was a mental thing..Gary was in rare form in this ep.."Bill, c'mon, I'm trying to save the world"

he looks the same because of the hammer. When he was revived by Odin during the Starmasters arc (iirc that arc), the Surfer synthesized the odinpower giving him a new look. He's like a brother or something now.

yeah Exodus doesn't quite make the cut. Nate Grey owned the fuck out of him and sealed him up in the Earth