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  • Re: The Bible says the book of Exodus never happened

    Fosheezy wrote: »
    Regretting making something doesn’t mean he did anything wrong as “mistake” implies. God made everybody upright.

    You think God had direct control over Pharoah when it comes to him letting the Hebrew slaves go?

    It does if you're supposed to be a perfect being. If God is omnipotent and omniscient, then he was capable of creating truly up right humans and knew what would happen with the humans he did create. If he regretted making humanity, that means he wish he hadn't of done it. What is do you call it when you do something you wish you didn't.

    As far as Pharaoh goes, he was going to let the Jews go several times before the final plague and he was done with them after the final plague.

    Exodus 9:12 But the Lord hardened Pharaoh’s heart and he would not listen to Moses and Aaron, just as the Lord had said to Moses.

    Exodus 10:20 But the Lord hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he would not let the Israelites go.

    Exodus 10:27 But the Lord hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he was not willing to let them go.

    Exodus 11:10 Moses and Aaron performed all these wonders before Pharaoh, but the Lord hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he would not let the Israelites go out of his country.

    Exodus 14:4 And I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and he will pursue them. But I will gain glory for myself through Pharaoh and all his army, and the Egyptians will know that I am the Lord.” So the Israelites did this.

    So basically, Pharaoh starts off being against letting the Israelites go until he has enough of the plagues. After that, God basically keeps him from letting them go. Then after Pharaoh finally is allowed to let them go, God is the one that gets him to pursue the Israelites, all so he can get glory from destroying the Egyptian soldiers.
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  • Re: "He Knew What He Signed Up For"

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  • Re: White NFL Player Chris Long Donating 2017 Salary To Fight Education Inequality

    5 Grand wrote: »

    @ the bolded. What you have posted is categorically false. You clearly have no idea how taxes work. But I'll explain it to you;

    There are different kind of taxes; Federal tax, state taxes, local/municipal taxes, progressive taxes and regressive taxes. Ad Valorem taxes fall into the category of progressive taxes.

    Lets start with Federal taxes. They take federal taxes out of your paycheck before you get it. Federal taxes basically go to the congress/senate/executive offices in Washington DC. Those taxes are used to pay our congressmen and senators, military spending and infrastructure. The congress and senate decide what to do with the money. In some cases they just pocket the money by giving themselves raises or spending it on fancy dinners.

    State taxes are similar to Federal taxes, they take it out of your paycheck before you get it, but the money is spent within the state. Regressive taxes fall into this category. For example in New Jersey where I live there's a 6% sales tax. So if you buy something in a store, they add 6% to the price. Something that cost $10 will cost $10.60 after taxes. Everybody pays the same regressive tax, poor and rich people both pay 6% sales tax. Anybody that goes to the store and buys a magazine or a pack of batteries pays a 6% sales tax. In New York City the sales tax is 8.25%. In Massachusetts the sales tax is 5%. In Delaware there is no sales tax so something that cost $10 costs $10 because there's no tax.

    Local/municipal taxes are progressive taxes. Basically if you own a house you have to pay taxes every quarter because its an asset. But if you're still paying a mortgage you can deduct your mortgage payments to offset what you owe in taxes. Poor people who do not own property don't pay progressive tax.

    There's also capital gains tax. If you invest in the stock market and buy 10,000 shares of a tech company for $10 per share you've spent $100,000. If the stock goes up to $15 per share and you sell it you've made $50,000 in profit. The government taxes that $50,000. However there's ways around paying capital gains tax, for example you could invest in a oil and gas exploratory partnership that loses money. The capital losses offset the capital gains. It seems counterintuitive but sometimes it takes 3-5 years for a oil and gas partnership to make a profit, so you can use the capital losses in the oil and gas partnership to offset the $50,000 gain you made on the tech stock.

    Anyway, you said;

    If you want to spend money to give your kids a leg up, that's fine. That's what private schools are for. Public schools are there to serve anyone regardless of socio-economic standing. A child shouldn't automatically be given a leg up just because his/her parents can afford to live in a nicer neighborhood. That's not how taxes work. Taxes are taken and used for the benefit of the country. There is no promise that if you pay more taxes you'll be given an advantage.

    @ the part I underlined. You made that up. Public schools are not, "there to serve anyone regardless of socio-economic standing". Thats a crock of shit.

    People who get up and go to work every day and pay more in taxes deserve to put their kids in a better school system than people who don't work and don't pay taxes. You might say 'it's unfair' but everything is fair. People who work and pay taxes think its 'not fair' that they have to work while there are people sitting home collecting welfare and food stamps. The money that goes into the welfare and food stamp program comes from the taxes of people who work. How is that fair? Everything is fair.


    Anyway the Supreme Court ruled on what you and I are discussing. They ruled that poorer neighborhoods don't have the inherent right to the same education as schools in wealthier neighborhoods.
    5. San Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez (1972)

    Like most U.S. public schools, the San Antonio Independent School District in Texas was funded in part by local property taxes. The District sued the state on behalf of the students in its district, arguing that since property taxes were relatively low in the area, students at the public schools were being underserved due to the lack of funding compared to wealthier districts. They argued that the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment mandates equal funding among school districts, but the Court ultimately rejected their claim. It held that there is no fundamental right to education guaranteed in the Constitution, and that the Equal Protection Clause doesn’t require exact “equality or precisely equal advantages” among school districts.
    https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/10-important-supreme-court-cases-about-education


    Seriously, if two people grow up in the same neighborhood and one of them joins a union after high school and works 40 hours a week every week until he's 62 and retires while the other one doesn't work or go to school and goes in and out of prison don't deserve the same amenities.

    Nigga, half your post doesn't have shit to do with what I said. How the fuck you going to act like you know some shit about taxes that we don't and then post some shit that everyone knows? What the hell does any of that have to do with the points I made, which is that there is nothing in the system that guarantees that if you pay more taxes, you'll benefit more from how tax money is spent. In fact, that's almost absolutely false given that a lot of tax money goes to social programs and other avenues that's that wealthier people have no access to despite that by raw numbers more tax money comes from weathier people.

    And it's hilarious that, you called my claim that public schools are there for people regardless of socio-economic status a "crock of shit" and then support your side by basically posting something that is nothing more than your opinion. Public schools are there to provide the basic education requirements for the general public. That's why they're fucking called public schools and not "Quality According to the Wealth in your Neighborhood" schools. Now granted, that doesn't mean that people in poor areas have the intrinsic right to be just as well educated as people in richer areas. No one claimed such a right existed, so your Supreme Court case is irrelevant.

    It's not our stance that there is some Constitutionally based rule that the quality of public schools should be even across the board. It's our stance that it would be better for the country if such a divide in education didn't exist. Lack of education is tied to crime and poverty and host of other blights on society, so it stands to reason that if you increased education, you'd reduce those blights. Anyone who cares about the country should want that. And even if you don't care about the country and only care about you and yours, then you should want it to be that other people are taken care enough so that they don't see taking from you and yours as their best or only option for survival. Once again, if you think your money should guarantee your child a better future, send your child to a private school. That's what they are for.
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  • Re: "He Knew What He Signed Up For"



    Faux News w/ a hit piece on Congresswoman Wilson to protect their dear leader Trump...

    Ehhhh Trump is a piece of shit and he deserves the bad press, but I wouldn't put it past the Congresswoman that she did this just to get her name in the news. Honestly, none of these politicians are worth shit.
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  • Re: White NFL Player Chris Long Donating 2017 Salary To Fight Education Inequality

    5 Grand wrote: »

    So you guys think that somebody that busts their ass to get out of the hood shouldn't be able to send their kids to better schools than somebody that drops out and does nothing with their life?

    I believe in capitalism. I also know and understand that racism exists. But I understood racism existed when I was 10 years old, maybe younger. I also understood that going to college gives you an edge over people that don't go to college.

    There's no logical explanation why schools in neighborhoods that pay less in Ad Valorem taxes should have the same resources as schools in neighborhoods that pay more in Ad Valorem taxes.


    If you can explain that I'd love to hear it.

    If you want to spend money to give your kids a leg up, that's fine. That's what private schools are for. Public schools are there to serve anyone regardless of socio-economic standing. A child shouldn't automatically be given a leg up just because his/her parents can afford to live in a nicer neighborhood. That's not how taxes work. Taxes are taken and used for the benefit of the country. There is no promise that if you pay more taxes you'll be given an advantage.

    And your point is kinda moot anyway, because the amount of money directed to schools aren't just tied to how much money is given in taxes. In a lot of cases, you'll see that schools in poor white areas still get more money than schools in poor black areas because more of the money earmarked for assisting public schools gets funneled to the white area. There was a bit of a scandal in PA uncovered not long ago. Basically, the PA state government set aside some money for poor schools. The white schools in rural PA were getting a much large chunk of it than the black schools in urban areas in PA even though those black schools were serving far more students. In both cases, the people being served were low to low-middle class and weren't paying around the same in property taxes.
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