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  • Re: In a PR blitz before his trial, Bill Cosby blames racism for sexual assault claims

    5th Letter wrote: »
    He was asked did he give women drugs with the intentions of having sex. Niggas buy weed and liquor and invite that girl over with the intention of smashing. Quaaludes were a recreational drug that both men and women used in those days to get high. Totally different than a roofie which is slipped into a drink unbeknownst to the victim. That's the difference.

    Y'all believe the bullshit about "he was too powerful so we couldn't say anything in 1966". So if he was raping all these women then at least one of them in '66 would've came out immediately and said something, not wait until 2004/2005.

    Dog, he wasn't asked if he got the drugs to enhance sex he planned on having with young women. He was asked if he got those drugs with with the intention of getting sex from young women. You're purposely interpreting the question to make it seem more mundane than it was. His answer, at the very least means that he was using drugs that basically robbed people of their bodily control and memories in order to plot on younger impressionable women. Even if you don't think that's rape. You have to admit that's some predatory shit.

    And your stance on Quaalude vs roofie is just wrong. Yes, Quaaludes were used in a recreational way that roofies weren't, but they were also mixed with alcohol and used to rape people. Why else do you think the follow-up question was "Did you ever give the women the drugs without them knowing?" How else do you think he would have done that?

    Rape, even today, is an extremely underreported crime, so your insistence that someone would have come out and said something is false. Predators know how to choose their prey. I will say that not all the accusers are saying he raped them, so that's also part of it. Some are just saying he grabbed them or fondled them. Lots of women would not report that especially when the person is high profile like Cosby. Again. I'm not saying any of this proves he's guilty, but for you to act like it's not even suspicious is basically just you letting your biases override your objectivity. Let me ask you a question. What do you think should have happened? When that many people accuse him, do you really think they should have just ignored it and not pushed forward at all?
    MR.CJ(Nope)
  • Re: In a PR blitz before his trial, Bill Cosby blames racism for sexual assault claims

    5th Letter wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    Crackas said Bill put pills in white women's drinks and negros believe it. Bill literally said he gave women drugs, y'all translate that to he drugged them. Even though the stuff he was giving them doesn't have the same effects as a roofie etc. Why do y'all believe the far fetched shit they say about black people to demonize us? Y'all the same ones that believe Cosby was too powerful in the 60's so they couldn't speak up. If Cosby was raping ALL these women at the pace he was doing it at least 1 one of them would've said something immediately.

    Nigga are you serious. He was literally asked this question in a deposition:
    When you got the Quaaludes, was it in your mind that you were going to use these Quaaludes for young women that you wanted to have sex with?

    That nigga said "Yes." So there is no question he was trying to use drugs to get sex from young women. The questioner followed up with.
    Did you ever give any of those young women the Quaaludes without their knowledge?

    His attorney would not let him answer that question. The only reason that would happens is if there was a chance he could either incriminate himself or open himself up to perjury charges.

    Now again, this doesn't mean he did it, but it's ridiculous that you cats are on here acting like it's so outlandish to believe that he did do something foul when by his own admission, he was at the very least planning to use drugs as a way to loosen young chicks up.

    And your downplaying of the drugs is ridiculous. You say the Quaaludes don't have the same effects as a roofie. That's pretty funny considering that Rohypnol (roofies) was sometimes referred to as the "Quaaludes of the 90s because they were "quick to work, erased memory, and relaxed muscles." In fact Quaaludes fell out of favor because they were tied to rapes just like roofies.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33428487

    None of this means he's guilty or should be convicted, but it's crazy that you cats are acting like there is no reason to question his innocence, especially since the only arguments you seem to be able to make in his favor are "He is Bill Cosby" and "Bitches lie," neither of which are strong arguments especially when up against ~50 accusations.

    Oh and chicks did come out on this earlier than now. How else do you think Hannibal Burress even knew about it? If all of them were just coming out now, then there wouldn't have been any basis for him making his comments to begin with.

    I see why you responded the way you did. Giving someone drugs does not equal drugging someone. Quaaludes were a recreational drugs that people used in those days to get high. No different than today when a guy invites a girl over and he gives her liquor and weed. Both instances the intention is to have sex, shocker. I definitely see why you'd think I "downplayed" drugs considering that you think giving drugs=drugging women.

    Quaaludes are a sleeping drug people got a high by fighting sleep. Roofies are not a sleeping aid. Hence why I said different effects.

    Who came out in the 60's during the height of Cosby's "power"?

    lol Come on man. You're better than this. They didn't ask him if he was going to give them drugs so they could all get high together. They specifically asked him if he bought the drugs to get sex from them. And whether roofies are a sleeping aid or not is irrelevant. Both drugs, when mixed with alcohol, can lead to person being unable to defend themselves from or even remember a rape. Both drugs were associated with rapes when they were popular.

    Also, your last question kinda defeats the reasoning you guys are putting forth for why these chicks are coming out in the first place. If their only reason is to tear down a black man or try to get something from him, wouldn't they do that while he's at the height of his power and not when he's an old man who is as much known for his attacks on the black community as he is for all the good he did for he black community?
    (Nope)MR.CJ
  • Re: In a PR blitz before his trial, Bill Cosby blames racism for sexual assault claims

    5th Letter wrote: »
    Crackas said Bill put pills in white women's drinks and negros believe it. Bill literally said he gave women drugs, y'all translate that to he drugged them. Even though the stuff he was giving them doesn't have the same effects as a roofie etc. Why do y'all believe the far fetched shit they say about black people to demonize us? Y'all the same ones that believe Cosby was too powerful in the 60's so they couldn't speak up. If Cosby was raping ALL these women at the pace he was doing it at least 1 one of them would've said something immediately.

    Nigga are you serious. He was literally asked this question in a deposition:
    When you got the Quaaludes, was it in your mind that you were going to use these Quaaludes for young women that you wanted to have sex with?

    That nigga said "Yes." So there is no question he was trying to use drugs to get sex from young women. The questioner followed up with.
    Did you ever give any of those young women the Quaaludes without their knowledge?

    His attorney would not let him answer that question. The only reason that would happens is if there was a chance he could either incriminate himself or open himself up to perjury charges.

    Now again, this doesn't mean he did it, but it's ridiculous that you cats are on here acting like it's so outlandish to believe that he did do something foul when by his own admission, he was at the very least planning to use drugs as a way to loosen young chicks up.

    And your downplaying of the drugs is ridiculous. You say the Quaaludes don't have the same effects as a roofie. That's pretty funny considering that Rohypnol (roofies) was sometimes referred to as the "Quaaludes of the 90s because they were "quick to work, erased memory, and relaxed muscles." In fact Quaaludes fell out of favor because they were tied to rapes just like roofies.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33428487

    None of this means he's guilty or should be convicted, but it's crazy that you cats are acting like there is no reason to question his innocence, especially since the only arguments you seem to be able to make in his favor are "He is Bill Cosby" and "Bitches lie," neither of which are strong arguments especially when up against ~50 accusations.

    Oh and chicks did come out on this earlier than now. How else do you think Hannibal Burress even knew about it? If all of them were just coming out now, then there wouldn't have been any basis for him making his comments to begin with.
    blackraina.mann(Nope)Madame_CJSkywalkerMR.CJ
  • Re: In a PR blitz before his trial, Bill Cosby blames racism for sexual assault claims

    I just happened to be listening to that UOENO Remix, and Ross spit this line:

    Put molly in her champagne (She ain't even know it)
    Took her home and enjoyed that (You ain't even know it)

    Niggas is real cavalier about this date rape shit. That's why I don't believe Cosby is innocent in this shit. A lot of dudes don't see anything wrong with it especially in the past, but it's not like drugging a chick for sex was legal back then either. People just didn't make as big a deal about it as they do now.

    wow @ the bolded for an argument

    I hope u are not an attorney :lol:

    u straight implying real guilt that would land someone in jail off of a rap lyric SMH.........ur bias so blatant it blinds u bruh


    so could Rick Ross rhyming about drugging women means all black men who get pussy must like raping these broads

    Lil Wayne also said something about beating pussy up like Emmett Till...........so I guess Emmett got what he deserved right? :(

    I swear you guys don't think before you post. Do I really need to tell you that I have no power whatsoever in determining whether Cosby is charged or convicted? I don't, so my personal opinions have no bearing on his circumstances on his situation and I don't have to conduct myself as if they do.

    Further, I didn't say that lyric was why I don't believe Cosby. I was saying that the seemingly pervasive feeling that drugging a chick for the purpose of sex is OK is reason for me to doubt his innocence especially when he admitted to having those intentions. Is that enough to convict him on? Of course not, but again, since you guys seem to have a problem understanding this concept, I'm not trying him. Me saying I don't believe that nigga doesn't mean he's guilty or should be treated as if he was.
    (Nope)
  • Re: In a PR blitz before his trial, Bill Cosby blames racism for sexual assault claims

    I just happened to be listening to that UOENO Remix, and Ross spit this line:

    Put molly in her champagne (She ain't even know it)
    Took her home and enjoyed that (You ain't even know it)

    Niggas is real cavalier about this date rape shit. That's why I don't believe Cosby is innocent in this shit. A lot of dudes don't see anything wrong with it especially in the past, but it's not like drugging a chick for sex was legal back then either. People just didn't make as big a deal about it as they do now.
    5th Letter(Nope)Trillaaaaaa