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  • young_reezy
    young_reezy Members Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2010
    jay-z never got caught right? lol
  • MaliciousJynx25
    MaliciousJynx25 Members Posts: 127
    edited April 2010
    jay-z never got caught right? lol

    I dont know 🤬 lol wtf?
  • MaliciousJynx25
    MaliciousJynx25 Members Posts: 127
    edited April 2010
    all im sayin is street wise/hood wise biggie was more realer than tupac but songwise message wise and content wise pac was more realer....Pac was a real dude trust me but he just didnt live the street life until he got a record deal. Im real enuff to say it and Pac is my favoritte rapper of all time. Big was nice too and did his thing
  • young_reezy
    young_reezy Members Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2010
    I dont know 🤬 lol wtf?

    you know that 🤬 never caught no dope case, stop it.
  • MaliciousJynx25
    MaliciousJynx25 Members Posts: 127
    edited April 2010
    you know that 🤬 never caught no dope case, stop it.

    yea and if he didnt he didnt simple
  • fabionbackbitch
    fabionbackbitch Members Posts: 720
    edited April 2010
    Mozeley wrote: »
    pac gotta be one of the best speakers of all time

    alright, slow down 🤬 .
  • young_reezy
    young_reezy Members Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2010
    and living the street life is more than selling dope, i know spoiled ass mammas boys who started pushin 8 🤬 , now they think they tony montana. that 🤬 don't mean nothing it just means you chose to live a certain lifestyle, don't mean you an authentic street 🤬 .

    actually growing up poor, moving from place to place, moms on dope, (the panthers brought forth the crips) community revolution in progress, raised by panthers,
    thats street in my book.
  • MaliciousJynx25
    MaliciousJynx25 Members Posts: 127
    edited April 2010
    see the problem with you cats on here is that some of you guys take it too far in terms of being fans....Pac's my fav. of all time but you dont see me here going off on him like that synthesis dude or whatever. Or how some dudes on here praise your fav. rappers on some next level 🤬 . I loved big and pac's music and I dont give a 🤬 about what they did before they got record deals and who's real and whos not. Music is music. Big was a street dude and was a great rapper, Pac wasnt a street dude before the deal and then became one when he got signed. But that doesnt impair my judgement on his skills as a rapper. Pac took on the street life and became the ultimate 🤬 and as a result died from it. Simple
  • MaliciousJynx25
    MaliciousJynx25 Members Posts: 127
    edited April 2010
    and living the street life is more than selling dope, i know spoiled ass mammas boys who started pushin 8 🤬 , now they think they tony montana. that 🤬 don't mean nothing it just means you chose to live a certain lifestyle, don't mean you an authentic street 🤬 .

    actually growing up poor, moving from place to place, moms on dope, (the panthers brought forth the crips) community revolution in progress, raised by panthers,
    thats street in my book.

    yea and thats how you see it, thats your definition, you 🤬 keep thinkin im hatin on pac when im not. The synthesis said big wasnt a street dude because he's riding pac's nutts so he feels to discredit all of pac's enemies and thats the type of fan he is. But me I dont discredit his enemies, big was good, dre is good, mobb deeps sucks tho. I love pac but I dont ride for him like I knew him personally you feel my drift, I dont follow and cling off his every word like some fans on here do. He's not jesus christ like some of you guys think.He wasnt malcolm x or mlk, He wasjust one of the most talented people to ever pick up a microphone. Simple
  • young_reezy
    young_reezy Members Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2010
    i can't speak on specific 🤬 like biggie or pac cause all i know of them is music and interviews, but pushin a 🤬 sack don't make you street, carrying a gun don't either thats all i'm saying. i grew up with spoiled kids in my neighborhood who started listening to nwa then wanted to be the dopeman, i knew they was fake then and i recognize them as being fake now.

    i went weeks smoking out to ready 2 die, just like some of pacs music, i don't ride for these 🤬 i don't know. true i like most of pacs music more than biggie because he has more material, touches on different subjects, but overall biggie was the better skilled emcee doesn't mean he made the better songs all the time still.

    i'm a fan of hip hop in general not just "oh i listen to him so 🤬 him" thats not me.
  • deathrowzorrow
    deathrowzorrow Members Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2010
    yea and thats how you see it, thats your definition, you 🤬 keep thinkin im hatin on pac when im not. The synthesis said big wasnt a street dude because he's riding pac's nutts so he feels to discredit all of pac's enemies and thats the type of fan he is. But me I dont discredit his enemies, big was good, dre is good, mobb deeps sucks tho. I love pac but I dont ride for him like I knew him personally you feel my drift, I dont follow and cling off his every word like some fans on here do. He's not jesus christ like some of you guys think.He wasnt malcolm x or mlk, He wasjust one of the most talented people to ever pick up a microphone. Simple

    Jesus christ is just 🤬 . Malcolm was just a person who was a freedom fighter. White people thinks he is a joke so does asians and all south americans

    and ye Tupac was a very talented rapper.
  • MaliciousJynx25
    MaliciousJynx25 Members Posts: 127
    edited April 2010
    Jesus christ is just 🤬 . Malcolm was just a person who was a freedom fighter. White people thinks he is a joke so does asians and all south americans
    and ye Tupac was a very talented rapper.

    lol........ok??
  • UPTOWN
    UPTOWN Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 13,009 Regulator
    edited April 2010
    ive read some of your posts on this first page and i must say u do bring up alot of truths and facts ... so props for that .... BUT

    **see bolded**
    🤬 🤬 with ur lame nyc ass...snitching is when u talk to thee police and snitch on a 🤬 to save ur ass

    its a known fact pac never talked to the police when he got shot...that 🤬 refused to talk to the police, he got shot 5 times and went to prison the next damn day

    pac was shootin cops, OK ... HE DID SHOOT TWO OFF DUTY POLICE OFFICERS ... BUT IT WAS ONLY ONE INSTANCE ... WHEN YOU SAY "PAC WAS SHOOTIN COPS" IT MAKES IT SOUND LIKE HE NOT ONLY DID IT MORE THAN ONCE, BUT LIKE HE WAS JUST POPPIN COPS IN UNIFORM AT WILL, WHICH ISNT THE CASE AT ALL

    dem 🤬 who shot pac was snitches, king tut was a police informant..jimmy henchman is another snitch.. I HAVENT HEARD THE JIMMY BEING A SNITCH PART ... BUT IF U HAVE PROOF ILL GLADY LISTEN
    if pac was a snitch, the police wud have outed him, they hated him with a passion...nobody protects a cop killer.. PAC NEVER KILLED A COP SO IS NOT A COP KILLER ... BUT U R RIGHT THE COPS WOULD HAVE RELEASED THAT DOCUMENT FRONT PAGE ON EVERY MAJOR NEWS PAPER LOL

    my 🤬 was black panther, his moms was given 3 life sentences and fought the case without a white lawyer and won...pacs mentality is the same...real solider 🤬

    a 🤬 like biggy and jay wud just crumble like a lil 🤬 if they faced the same 🤬 pac did...jay is no street 🤬 , nas is no street 🤬 , biggy was a rich boy, his moms lived ina 20 bedroom house in the hood lmao and he never ate sardines for dinner, he was eating 4 course meals...🤬 was a mathematics genius

    RELAX DUDE BIGGIE JAYZ NAS AND PAC ALL HAD RESPECTABLE STREET CRED. NOT EVERYBODY IS GONNA BE A RAYFUL EDMOND OR LARRY DAVIS ETC ... BUT ITS A PROVEN FACT THAT ALL THESE CATS ARE FROM THE HOOD. QUEENSBRIDGE IS THE LARGEST HOUSING PROJECT IN THE US. JAY Z HAS NUMEROUS WELL KNOWN STREET CATS TALKIN ABOUT KNOWING HIM ON VIDEOS ALL OVER THE NET. WHETHER THEY SAY GOOD THINGS OR BAD THEY STILL KNOW HIM AND ACKNOWLEDGE HIM AS ATLEAST AN ASSOCIATE. IF JAY WASNT AS BIG AS A DEALER AS HE SAYS ... COOL .... BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN HE'S NOT FROM THE HOOD

    FAM ... THERE ARE NO 20 BEDROOM HOUSES IN THE HOOD ... I DONT EVEN THINK BIGGIE HAS ANY SIBLINGS.... WHY WOULD JUST HIM AND HIS MOM LIVE IN SOME BIG MANSION WITH JUST HIM AND HER?? LOL COME NOW CUZZO ... BIGGIE WAS NO WHERE NEAR RICH ... IM NOT SAYING HE'S FROM A FAVELA IN BRAZIL BUT HE WAS NOT RICH MY DUDE. HE WAS NOT EATING 4 COURSE MEALS HIS MOM WAS WORKING TWO JOBS TO SEND HIM TO A PRIVATE SCHOOL. I SEE SOME OF MY PEERS WHO I GREW UP WITH DOIN THE SAME THING RIGHT NOW ... BUT WHEN THOSE KIDS GET OUT OF SCHOOL AT 3 O CLOCK THEY ARE BACK IN THE HOOD MY FRIEND ... IT DOESNT SAVE THEM FROM THAT... IF IT DID WE WOULD HAVE THE SOLUTION FOR ALL KIDS FROM THE HOOD. BIGGIE WASNT NO DAMN MATHEMATICS GENIUS LOL ... HE DIDNT EVEN GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL ... HE JUST USED TO GET GOOD GRADES WHEN HE WAS IN PRIVATE SCHOOL AND HIS FAVORITE SUBJECT WAS MATH LOL ... THAT DOESNT MAKE HIM A MATHEMATICS GENIUS LOL


    puffy pops was a millionaire 🤬 , this 🤬 went to havard...none of them 🤬 was badboys,
    PUFFYS DAD WAS A DRUG DEALER WHO WAS ASSOCIATED WITH BUMPY JOHNSON BACK IN HARLEM IN THE 60'S ... DUDE DIED WHEN PUFF WAS JUST A LITTLE KID ... AND PUFFY WENT TO HOWARD NOT HARVARD LOL HOWARD IS A BLACK COLLEGE IN DC CUZZO .... HARVARD IS A TOP NOTCH IVY LEAGUE SCHOOL MAINLY FOR RICH WHITE KIDS

    pac lived in the ghetto and went to a public school, the black panthers funded his education...pac was still in the hood, 🤬 use to come to school with holes in his snakers - ask jada....by 16 pac was outta Baltimore and in the streets of cali..🤬 went from harlem, to baltimoore to the bay..he been hood too hood unlike ur favorite nyc rapper

    OK COOL BUT U CANT SAY THE PANTHERS FUNDED PACS EDUCATION AND SAY THAT PAC WENT TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS ... PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE FREE TO ATTEND AS LONG AS U CAN PROVE THAT YOU LIVE IN A CERTAIN AREA. IM NOT SURE IF THE ARTS SCHOOL WAS PUBLIC OR NOT ... I KNOW THAT YOU HAD TO BE CHOSEN TO GO THERE THO ... BUT EITHER WAY THE PANTHER PARTY HAD CRUMBLED BY THE TIME PAC WENT TO SCHOOL IN B MORE ... PAC WAS IN THAT SCHOOL IN THE 80'S .. ONE OF THE MOST NOTABLE VIDEOS FROM THAT TIME IN HIS LIFE WAS WHEN HIM AND JADA PINKETT WERE REMAKING THE "PARENTS JUST DONT UNDERSTAND" VIDEO BY WILL SMITH (THE FRESH PRINCE) THAT SONG CAME OUT IN 1988 .. SO PAC AND JADA HAD TO MAKE THE VIDEO AFTER THAT ... THE BLACK PANTHERS WERE NOT FUNCTIONAL IN 1988 ... AT LEAST NOT IN BALTIMORE

    🤬 got the game twisted on snitchin....stop listening to the dipset, g unit 🤬 on the meaning of snitchin....snitchin if what u do behind closed doors to bring a 🤬 down and to save ur ass...

    if u go on a record and say some 🤬 tried to have u killed and u finna 🤬 him, dats not snitchin, dats lettin 🤬 know that boy is a 🤬 and he a dead 🤬
  • MaliciousJynx25
    MaliciousJynx25 Members Posts: 127
    edited April 2010
    Cosign uptown connex post, this dude synthesis is trying to hard to discredit pac's enemies, and is making himself look kind of obsessive when it comes to pac, I mean the black panther funding pac for public schooling? lmao
  • thesynthesis
    thesynthesis Members Posts: 9,230 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2010
    ive read some of your posts on this first page and i must say u do bring up alot of truths and facts ... so props for that .... BUT

    **see bolded**

    i respect the 🤬 u say man

    in regards to pac being funded by the black panthers,,, lets me rephrase that...ex black panther supported pac and his family when pac was in school as a favor to Afenie....that's what she said in a interview...but then she got in a to a abusive relationship and pac and her bf use to clash and he wanted to 🤬 that 🤬 , so his moms sent him off to cali to live with his cousins, while she got hooked on 🤬 ....

    i got the puffy thing wrong, but we all know puff was no street dude regardless of his pops being a boss back in the day...puff always had that carlton banks mentality, rollins with rich asians and white boys...but i guess thats why he's such a success now, 🤬 was ready to suck record exec 🤬 to get where he at now and to run over everyone like road runner

    big was just fascinated by the hood life, he never had to get in to all that, he had it good., but he chose it, it aint choose him,

    🤬 be like pac never caught a case untill he made his first record, how many cases did jay catch.. feel me, 🤬 be flippin it one way but forget to flip it the other way too

    i dont no much about nas life story to be real, i 🤬 with nas, he is a real 🤬 , who has purpose with his music 🤬
  • MaliciousJynx25
    MaliciousJynx25 Members Posts: 127
    edited April 2010
    synthesis, pac was a great rapper and did live a hard life growing up, but my man jus be easy with the praising, its making you look bad, you drop some facts but then you also drop some stuff that dont make no sense, and you go out your way to 🤬 on puff, big, jay, and nas, like come on dude pac was great but you seem to worship him and ride for him like you knew the guy.
  • MaliciousJynx25
    MaliciousJynx25 Members Posts: 127
    edited April 2010
    i respect the 🤬 u say man

    in regards to pac being funded by the black panthers,,, lets me rephrase that...ex black panther supported pac and his family when pac was in school as a favor to Afenie....that's what she said in a interview...but then she got in a to a abusive relationship and pac and her bf use to clash and he wanted to 🤬 that 🤬 , so his moms sent him off to cali to live with his cousins, while she got hooked on 🤬 ....

    i got the puffy thing wrong, but we all know puff was no street dude regardless of his pops being a boss back in the day...puff always had that carlton banks mentality, rollins with rich asians and white boys...but i guess thats why he's such a success now, 🤬 was ready to suck record exec 🤬 to get where he at now and to run over everyone like road runner

    big was just fascinated by the hood life, he never had to get in to all that, he had it good., but he chose it, it aint choose him,

    🤬 be like pac never caught a case untill he made his first record, how many cases did jay catch.. feel me, 🤬 be flippin it one way but forget to flip it the other way too
    i dont no much about nas life story to be real, i 🤬 with nas, he is a real 🤬 , who has purpose with his music 🤬

    It dont matter about who caught what case, Pac said it himself that he never got a police record until he made a record, its on the ressurection dvd. and who cares if jay caught a case, why do you feel the need to 🤬 on big and jay? why cuz pac did?
  • thesynthesis
    thesynthesis Members Posts: 9,230 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2010
    malicous, i aint the one making 2pac got molested screen names just cuz i get under a 🤬 skin...feel me, if i can annoy a ngga so much that he wastes 5 mins of life making a screennames, then i'mma just sit here and laugh and keep talkin

    there be just as many jay and big threads on here man....aslong as we talking hip hop it dont matter to me
  • thesynthesis
    thesynthesis Members Posts: 9,230 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2010
    It dont matter about who caught what case, Pac said it himself that he never got a police record until he made a record, its on the ressurection dvd. and who cares if jay caught a case, why do you feel the need to 🤬 on big and jay? why cuz pac did?

    ur missing the point,,, if a 🤬 like "🤬 2pac, he aint catch a case untill he famous, he's a fraud", then the same 🤬 like " jigga was a real 🤬 who was in the streets"....so i point out jigga did no bid, so must also be a fraud....see i aint saying hov a fraud, i'm pointing out that just cuz a 🤬 dont have a case or a bid by 15 dont mean he a fraud
  • MaliciousJynx25
    MaliciousJynx25 Members Posts: 127
    edited April 2010
    malicous, i aint the one making 2pac got molested screen names just cuz i get under a 🤬 skin...feel me, if i can annoy a ngga so much that he wastes 5 mins of life making a screennames, then i'mma just sit here and laugh and keep talkin

    there be just as many jay and big threads on here man....aslong as we talking hip hop it dont matter to me

    and people who make screen names like that are 🤬 for real,but you have to expect that on here, there are wierdos and people who are just plain stupid.... people can say whatever about pac theres no need to pay them any mind u get me, you like pac u like pac, but you seem to take it to some next level 🤬 with the praising. thats all im saying.
  • MaliciousJynx25
    MaliciousJynx25 Members Posts: 127
    edited April 2010
    ur missing the point,,, if a 🤬 like "🤬 2pac, he aint catch a case untill he famous, he's a fraud", then the same 🤬 like " jigga was a real 🤬 who was in the streets"....so i point out jigga did no bid, so must also be a fraud....see i aint saying hov a fraud, i'm pointing out that just cuz a 🤬 dont have a case or a bid by 15 dont mean he a fraud

    Who cares about the people on here man and what they say, I dont give 2 🤬 about what they say about pac, i kno pac was real and a great rapper simple.
  • UPTOWN
    UPTOWN Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 13,009 Regulator
    edited April 2010
    i respect the 🤬 u say man

    in regards to pac being funded by the black panthers,,, lets me rephrase that...ex black panther supported pac and his family when pac was in school as a favor to Afenie....that's what she said in a interview...but then she got in a to a abusive relationship and pac and her bf use to clash and he wanted to 🤬 that 🤬 , so his moms sent him off to cali to live with his cousins, while she got hooked on 🤬 ....

    i got the puffy thing wrong, but we all know puff was no street dude regardless of his pops being a boss back in the day...puff always had that carlton banks mentality, rollins with rich asians and white boys...but i guess thats why he's such a success now, 🤬 was ready to suck record exec 🤬 to get where he at now and to run over everyone like road runner

    big was just fascinated by the hood life, he never had to get in to all that, he had it good., but he chose it, it aint choose him,

    🤬 be like pac never caught a case untill he made his first record, how many cases did jay catch.. feel me, 🤬 be flippin it one way but forget to flip it the other way too

    i dont no much about nas life story to be real, i 🤬 with nas, he is a real 🤬 , who has purpose with his music 🤬
    no doubt cuzzo ... cause cats just talk out their ass but u do know what ur talking about. i see u know alot of the facts. ur right these cats werent forced into the street life ... but pac wasnt either ... in fact, all our youth have the option to chose the street or not. all the cats we mentioned in this thread are nice in their own way tho. biggie may have chosen the streets even tho his mom was going out her way so that he didnt have to .... but even pac said he was no good at hustling dope etc.

    the funny thing is ... it was each persons flaws that made them the person who they were. if pac woulda been a good dope dealer, he would have never used his artistic value and touched so many lives. if biggie wouldnt have chose to run the streets of brooklyn, being a smart or witty yet street wise person may not have been so appealing. jay z made cats want to get double extra rich in a LEGIT way. nas keeps cats grounded and dwells on not forgetting where u came from. its like all these cats have certain lane that plays it part
    It dont matter about who caught what case, Pac said it himself that he never got a police record until he made a record, its on the ressurection dvd. and who cares if jay caught a case, why do you feel the need to 🤬 on big and jay? why cuz pac did?
    but pacs point by saying that was to say that whenever a young blackman is trying to do the right thing, people always try to bring them down ... he was saying that when he was unknown and broke people left him alone and didnt care. but now that he is successful, even tho he's the same person (or atleast trying to be), people go out there way to throw nonsense at him to bring him down

    i think synthesis is basically saying that big and jay compromise too much with white america for his liking
  • young_reezy
    young_reezy Members Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2010
    all people do have choices to go this way or that way, ( i know of only 1 person who's moms gave him 🤬 and told him you are gonna have to start making money for the family) thats damn near abuse.
  • MaliciousJynx25
    MaliciousJynx25 Members Posts: 127
    edited April 2010
    no doubt cuzzo ... cause cats just talk out their ass but u do know what ur talking about. i see u know alot of the facts. ur right these cats werent forced into the street life ... but pac wasnt either ... in fact, all our youth have the option to chose the street or not. all the cats we mentioned in this thread are nice in their own way tho. biggie may have chosen the streets even tho his mom was going out her way so that he didnt have to .... but even pac said he was no good at hustling dope etc.

    the funny thing is ... it was each persons flaws that made them the person who they were. if pac woulda been a good dope dealer, he would have never used his artistic value and touched so many lives. if biggie wouldnt have chose to run the streets of brooklyn, being a smart or witty yet street wise person may not have been so appealing. jay z made cats want to get double extra rich in a LEGIT way. nas keeps cats grounded and dwells on not forgetting where u came from. its like all these cats have certain lane that plays it part

    but pacs point by saying that was to say that whenever a young blackman is trying to do the right thing, people always try to bring them down ... he was saying that when he was unknown and broke people left him alone and didnt care. but now that he is successful, even tho he's the same person (or atleast trying to be), people go out there way to throw nonsense at him to bring him down

    i think synthesis is basically saying that big and jay compromise too much with white america for his liking

    Jay-Z does but not so much biggie because you gotta understand back in the 90's the game wasnt half as white corporate america driven like it is now
  • rip.dilla
    rip.dilla ... push up the fader... bust the meter... shake the tweeter Members Posts: 17,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2010
    Check the video and you will understand.

    Real 🤬 🤬 ... RIP