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Census: Hispanics fuel US white population growth.

cobbland
cobbland "Shorty": Belly (1998)Chicago...Members Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited October 2011 in R & R (Religion and Race)
See, they are assimilating.
They love America too.


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Census: Hispanics fuel US white population growth
APBy HOPE YEN - Associated Press | AP – 4 mins 26 secs ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — In a twist to notions of race identity, new 2010 census figures show an unexpected reason behind a renewed growth in the U.S. white population: more Hispanics listing themselves as white in the once-a-decade government count.

The shift is due to recent census changes that emphasize "Hispanic" as an ethnicity, not a race. While the U.S. government first made this distinction in 1980, many Latinos continued to use the "some other race" box to establish a Hispanic identity. In a switch, the 2010 census forms specifically instructed Latinos that Hispanic origins are not races and to select a recognized category such as white or black.

The result: a 6 percent increase in white Americans as tallied by the census, even though there was little change among non-Hispanic whites. In all, the number of people in the "white alone" category jumped by 12.1 million over the last decade to 223.6 million. Based on that definition, whites now represent 72 percent of the U.S. population and account for nearly half of the total population increase since 2000.

Broken down by state, California and Texas were home to nearly half of Hispanics who identified as white, followed by Florida and New York. Together, these four states comprised nearly two-thirds of the "white alone" population who were Hispanic. Overall, Hialeah, Fla.; Fargo, N.D.; Arvada, Colo.; Billings, Mont., and Scottsdale, Ariz., posted the highest shares in the "white alone" category, at roughly 90 percent or more.

"The white population has become more diverse as evidenced by the growth of the Hispanic white population and the multiple-race white population," including black-white and white-Asian people, according to the 2010 census analysis released Thursday.

Some demographers say the broadened white category in 2010 could lead to a notable semantic if not cultural shift in defining race and ethnicity. Due to the impact of Hispanics, the nation's fastest-growing group, the Census Bureau has previously estimated that whites will become the minority in the U.S. by midcentury. That is based on a definition of whites as non-Hispanic, who are now at 196.8 million.

That could change, if the common conception of white were to shift.

"What's white in America in 1910, 2010 or even 2011 simply isn't the same," said Robert Lang, sociology professor at the University of Nevada-Las Vegas, citing the many different groups of European immigrants in the early 20th century who later became known collectively as white. He notes today that could mean a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant in upstate New York or Jews and Italians in the lowest East side of Manhattan.

Predicting a similar shift for Hispanics, Lang and others noted that mixed marriages are now more common between whites and Hispanics. U.S.-born Latino children of immigrants also are more likely than their parents to identify as white. "The definition of white has always been expansive," he said. "I could see the census in 2030 or 2040 dropping the differentiation between Hispanics and whites."

Roderick Harrison, a Howard University sociologist and former chief of racial statistics at the Census Bureau, agreed that growing numbers of second- and third-generation Hispanics may lose some of their cultural identity as they become more assimilated in the U.S. "Some portion might indeed become, for most social purposes, 'white,'" he said.

The latest census figures also show the number of Americans who identified themselves as partly black and partly white more than doubled to 1.8 million. For the first time, the black-white combination is the most prevalent group among multiracial Americans, making up 1 in 5 members of that subgroup. They exceed the number of multiracials who identified as being white and "some other race," composed of mostly Hispanics, as well as white-Asians and white-American Indians.

States in the South including South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi and Alabama tripled their numbers of people identifying as a mix of black and white, mostly because their overall numbers are smaller. In those places, less than 3 percent of blacks identified that way — lower than the national average of 4.5 percent.

In raw numbers, states that had the biggest increases in the black-white category were California, Florida, Texas, New York, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Some blacks who are partly white have been reluctant to openly embrace their white background, due to a strong black identity in their communities. Historically, several states previously had a "one drop" rule that classified whites with any African blood as black.

In the 2010 census, President Barack Obama was among those who identified himself only as African-American, even though his mother was white.

"There is no question that racial lines are blurring in the United States, especially among 'new' minorities — Hispanics, Asians and growing mixed race generations. Yet it's particularly significant that we are seeing breakdowns in white-black separation," said William H. Frey, a demographer at the Brookings Institution. "Strong gains in interracial marriages and higher mixed-race identification among youth suggest that past racial categories will need to be radically changed or even dispensed with in the next two or three decades."

The share of Hispanics identifying themselves as white increased over the past decade from 48 percent to 53 percent, while the proportion of those who marked "some other race" dropped from 42 percent to 37 percent. Many Hispanics previously preferred to check the "some other race" category to express their nationalities — such as Mexican or Cuban.

The Census Bureau has been examining different ways to count the nation's demographic groups. One experiment is a possible change to the questionnaire that would effectively treat Hispanics as a mutually exclusive group. It would allow people to check off just one of five race or ethnic categories — white, black, Hispanic, Asian/Pacific Islander or American Indian/Alaska Native — rather than asking people who identify themselves as Hispanic to also check what race they are.

Other findings:

—The multiple-race white population, including black-whites and white-Asians, increased by at least 8 percent in every state, with the biggest gains in the South.

—The non-Hispanic white population declined in 15 states, mostly in the Northeast and Midwest.

—The majority of blacks, both non-Hispanic blacks and those in combination with Hispanics or other races, lived in the South. About 60 percent of their total population lived in 10 states — New York, Florida, Texas, Georgia, California, North Carolina, Illinois, Maryland, Virginia and Ohio. The biggest gains in blacks over the past decade occurred in Florida, Georgia, Texas and North Carolina.

—Cities with the highest share of blacks, both non-Hispanic and in combination with others, include Detroit at 84 percent. It was followed by Jackson, Miss., Miami Gardens, Fla., and Birmingham, Ala.

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Online:

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http://news.yahoo.com/census-hispanics-fuel-us-white-population-growth-173449405.html

Comments

  • it's me bi***es
    it's me bi***es Members Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
    Only people with identity issues do that 🤬 !

    We are not hispanic!

    We are not latino!

    We are mexican!

    Enough said!

    🤬 what u heard...
  • Focal Point
    Focal Point Kushite descent... wandering child from Meru of Old TrentonMembers Posts: 16,307 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
    been saying this... latinos can identify white or black they're an ethnicity... darker Dominicans and Cubans go black, Argentinians, Costa Ricans, and Ecuadorians go white
  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
    Why don't they just have mulatto as a choice. That's a racial category that would actually apply to most Hispanics and a fair amount of native US citizens.
  • @My_nameaintearl
    @My_nameaintearl Banned Users Posts: 2,609 ✭✭
    edited September 2011
    If they would like to join White People, they are certainly welcome to do so.
  • janklow
    janklow god's lonely man. Members, Moderators Posts: 8,613 Regulator
    edited September 2011
    Only people with identity issues do that 🤬 !
    We are not hispanic!
    We are not latino!
    We are mexican!
    Enough said!
    🤬 what u heard...
    not all Hispanics are Mexicans, but the majority of Mexians are Hispanic...
    Why don't they just have mulatto as a choice. That's a racial category that would actually apply to most Hispanics and a fair amount of native US citizens.
    well, i am pretty sure they COULD select multiple races on the census...
  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
    janklow wrote: »
    ...

    well, i am pretty sure they COULD select multiple races on the census...

    Yeah, but that's not all that accurate either. There comes a point of a mixture where it's simpler to identify it as that mixture than it is the product of the things that made it up. When you see something that is orange you call it "orange" not "red/yellow." It should really be the same way. Hispanics are black/white/indigenous. They are so mixed, that they should be identified as such i.e. mulatto, mestizo, whatever.
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
    This isn't a surprise at all to me. Most or at least half Mexicans consider themselves white and so do most Puerto Ricans. Puerto Rico is about to build a huge statue of Christopher Columbus, one of the biggest colonizers in history. What does that tell you lol. Most Argentinians feel the same, so there really isn't any surprise here.
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
    Yeah, but that's not all that accurate either. There comes a point of a mixture where it's simpler to identify it as that mixture than it is the product of the things that made it up. When you see something that is orange you call it "orange" not "red/yellow." It should really be the same way. Hispanics are black/white/indigenous. They are so mixed, that they should be identified as such i.e. mulatto, mestizo, whatever.

    Many Hispanics are not as mixed as you think they are. Alot of them like to use the word 🤬 and all, but many still look white as hell and can trace their family straight to Spain. I had a Dominican friend who looked tannish but he always told me his ancestors came straight from Spain. Many are also mixed true, but it doesnt mean most of them are.
  • nujerz84
    nujerz84 NJMembers Posts: 15,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
    Because there a 🤬 load of white latinos...
  • GrizTitan
    GrizTitan Members Posts: 2,075 ✭✭
    edited September 2011
    If they would like to join White People, they are certainly welcome to do so.
    But they are messing up the real numbers doing so. If I have to check Black/African-American they should make a line for them also. That want to keep count of us well count their 🤬 too.
  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
    Many Hispanics are not as mixed as you think they are. Alot of them like to use the word 🤬 and all, but many still look white as hell and can trace their family straight to Spain. I had a Dominican friend who looked tannish but he always told me his ancestors came straight from Spain. Many are also mixed true, but it doesnt mean most of them are.

    Most studies I've seen on the matter say that the majority of people in the Carribbean and South America are mixed. Hell, in more than one country, there was was much mixing that they provided incentives to get Euros to relocate just to lighten the population. Lot's of people make claims about being able to trace their lineage. I was watching this documentary on the Swahili and in this one town pretty much everyone claimed they were Persian and could trace their roots directly to some big named Persian family. All of these people were about 3 shades darker than you (if that's you in the pic). That says something.

    You should watch that Blacks in Latin America series someone posted here recently. It's interesting.
  • nujerz84
    nujerz84 NJMembers Posts: 15,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
    GrizTitan wrote: »
    But they are messing up the real numbers doing so. If I have to check Black/African-American they should make a line for them also. That want to keep count of us well count their 🤬 too.

    U missing the point... there latinos with natural blonde hair and blue eyes white, latinos that look like any other black man and those that have an Idgieounous/native american look... So should a latino from Cuba or Puerto Rico whose white as snow with blue eyes says hes black cause there black cubans and to make black folks happy? Dude aint black Its the same issue/problem for the other two races of latino I mentioned.
  • rapluva
    rapluva Members Posts: 232
    edited September 2011
    cobbland wrote: »
    See, they are assimilating.
    They love America too.


    white-man-crying.jpg

    This is nothing but NEW WORLD ORDER "Dis-Information" to make us Americans accept all theze illegal immigrants to b aloud to live here, the U.S. Population is mlore like this last time I read it: Whites 219+Million Blacks- 36 Million (Although I think we're more like 44/45 Million because if you look at the 1960 Encyclopedia we were 36 Million back in the 1960),

    Chicanos (aka- Mexican-Americans) 25 Million PLUS an additional 17 Million Illegals from Mexico/Central and South America, Middle Eastern Americans are about 4+ Million, Asian Americans 5+ Million, so all in all we people of color are still out numbered 3 to 1, so don't believe all these "new statistics" trying to make it "LOOK" like we surpassed whites, they (Zionist Jews= aka "The Illuminatti") want us to think this, so that in the future they can trick us to start a "Race War" against the whites so that "They" can suspend "The U.S. Constitution" and start the "New World Order" discised as "Potectiing the Nation in time of CIVIL UNREST". thats my 2 cents on it.
  • janklow
    janklow god's lonely man. Members, Moderators Posts: 8,613 Regulator
    edited October 2011
    Yeah, but that's not all that accurate either.
    well, let's be honest: it IS accurate beyond breaking down the percentages if you check everything appropriate.
    Hispanics are black/white/indigenous. They are so mixed, that they should be identified as such i.e. mulatto, mestizo, whatever.
    the flip side is that you have plenty of Hispanics who are nowhere as mixed as what you describe. so letting them select race(s) as appropriate and then noting their Hispanic origin seems the most fair.
    This isn't a surprise at all to me. Most or at least half Mexicans consider themselves white and so do most Puerto Ricans. Puerto Rico is about to build a huge statue of Christopher Columbus, one of the biggest colonizers in history. What does that tell you lol. Most Argentinians feel the same, so there really isn't any surprise here.
    well... a bunch of those dudes ARE white...
  • G Mack
    G Mack Members Posts: 6,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2011
    if they want to claim white let them claim it

    the real question is will other whites accept them
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2011
    janklow wrote: »
    well, let's be honest: it IS accurate beyond breaking down the percentages if you check everything appropriate.

    the flip side is that you have plenty of Hispanics who are nowhere as mixed as what you describe. so letting them select race(s) as appropriate and then noting their Hispanic origin seems the most fair.

    well... a bunch of those dudes ARE white...

    I know, many Hispanics are white. Whites took over South and Central America almost completely, the indigenous populations there got 🤬 over worst than any other people in world history. I doubt a hillbilly from the south will consider a light skin Mexican dude white though, but hey maybe I'm wrong.
  • StillFaggyAF
    StillFaggyAF Queer LGBT CommunityMembers Posts: 40,358 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2011
    Hispanic is not a race, its just a term used because its too complicated to tried to categorize everyone. Plus in America, we had the one drop rule, while in Latin America they had names for every possible mix between white, black, and indigenous.
  • janklow
    janklow god's lonely man. Members, Moderators Posts: 8,613 Regulator
    edited October 2011
    I doubt a hillbilly from the south will consider a light skin Mexican dude white though, but hey maybe I'm wrong.
    well, i think the answer honestly varies, but i bet we can find examples of white people hating other white people for ethnic reasons despite both groups being "undisputedly white"