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Do you think HELL is real ???

freshb651
freshb651 Members Posts: 8,240 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 2010 in R & R (Religion and Race)
If not how do you explain people who had near-death experiences and describe what would seem like Hell.
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  • fiat_money
    fiat_money Members Posts: 16,654 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    Do you have a source for your claims?
  • MERYLISBACK
    MERYLISBACK Banned Users Posts: 2,003 ✭✭
    edited January 2010
    i believe in 8 pound 6 ounce Baby Jesus so yes
  • Mr. AJ
    Mr. AJ Members Posts: 1,706 ✭✭
    edited January 2010
    Yes, I'm in hell as we speak. And devils run this globe.
  • fabionbackbitch
    fabionbackbitch Members Posts: 720
    edited January 2010
    You let harpo beat me?!
  • CMac
    CMac Members Posts: 5,748 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    If 🤬 like 🤬 existed on this earth then hell yeah
  • Eternal Bachelor
    Eternal Bachelor Members Posts: 656
    edited January 2010
    CMac wrote: »
    If 🤬 like 🤬 existed on this earth then hell yeah

    thats your reasoning?

    if anything, the innate evil thats present in some humans, to me, is evidence that there is no hell...all the hell there ever needs to be is present right here on earth every single day

    ask them muthafuckas in haiti walking over dead bodies in the street if they are in hell right now and see what they say
  • obnoxiouslyfresh
    obnoxiouslyfresh Still Ginny From The Block Members Posts: 11,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    Hell for me would be getting tickled for eternity while listening to Bon Jovi
  • freshb651
    freshb651 Members Posts: 8,240 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    fiat_money wrote: »
    Do you have a source for your claims?

    there is a book called 24 minutes in hell i think,and it's about one guy who had a NDE and he describes what Hell is like.They've also had guys like this on talk shows and things like that,describing being grabbed by a bunch of hands and being spit on and cussed out and scratched and taunted and the atmosphere being very hot,and then some guy said he was like oh Jesus please help me then he said he saw a bright white light and he awakened from his NDE.
  • Yung_Souf_Money
    Yung_Souf_Money Members Posts: 4,019 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    Countless have asked, "If 🤬 is so good, why would He create a place like hell?

    This is similar to asking, "If our government is so good, why would it create prisons?

    The answer seems simple enough - places like hell and prisons exist because some people will choose to do the wrong thing, and because of that, they need to be punished.

    It is fairly easy to understand how this reasoning applies to the existence of prisons, but does it really pertain to hell as well?

    However, the Bible tells us in Matthew 25:41 that hell was later prepared for "the devil and his angels.

    see also Isaiah 14:12

    🤬 did not create hell for man; it was never His intention that any man or woman should go to hell. In 2 Peter 3:9, we learn that 🤬 does not want "anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance."

    What is hell? Hell is a real place.

    We know this from many verses in the Bible, several of them spoken by Jesus, Himself; and we know that the wicked and unrighteous will go there when they die.

    So once again, we are back to the main point that 🤬 is good, and life in hell is terrible, so why would 🤬 create such a place? Even though hell was initially created to hold Satan and the angels that fell with him, there will also be men and women in hell.

    Is hell real? Hell is a place of eternal separation from 🤬 , and people go there when they die because they chose to separate themselves from 🤬 while living on earth

    🤬 created us with the free will to make our own choices, and separating ourselves from 🤬 is one of the choices we are free to make. Our free will is a wonderful gift from 🤬 in that He does not force us to love Him or to follow Him. Without our free will, we would be nothing but puppets or robots, which does not please 🤬 , and certainly does nothing to better our lives.

    While 🤬 desires that everyone would choose to love Him, some people will choose not to

    These people will die in their sins and be separated from 🤬 forever in hell. Many would say that this is unfair, and that a loving 🤬 would never set up a system such as this; however, it is precisely 🤬 's love for us, and the fact that He is perfectly just, that tells us why hell exists, and why men and women will choose to go there. 🤬 loves us so much that He respects our freedom of choice.

    If we choose not to love Him, then why would He want to force us to live with Him eternally in heaven? Wouldn't living for eternity with someone we don't love be hell anyway? 🤬 wants to spare those people who don't love Him from having to live with Him and be under His rule for eternity.

    Is Hell Real? - Is It Punishment For The Wicked?
    The question, "Is hell real?" is answered "no" by a lot of people. These people would like to believe that when we die, we don't go to a heaven or a hell, we simply cease to exist. However, wouldn't a 🤬 who sends us into nonexistence at death be just as "cruel" as one who allows us to freely choose our own destiny, which could be hell? Even atheist Friedrich Nietzsche said that he would rather choose eternally conscious suffering than nonexistence.
  • fiat_money
    fiat_money Members Posts: 16,654 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    freshb651 wrote: »
    there is a book called 24 minutes in hell i think,and it's about one guy who had a NDE and he describes what Hell is like.They've also had guys like this on talk shows and things like that,describing being grabbed by a bunch of hands and being spit on and cussed out and scratched and taunted and the atmosphere being very hot,and then some guy said he was like oh Jesus please help me then he said he saw a bright white light and he awakened from his NDE.
    This means nothing, unless this book shows that all people who have "near death experiences" experience similarly negative experiences.

    If not, they are merely bad dreams that a select few have had.
  • CMac
    CMac Members Posts: 5,748 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    thats your reasoning?

    if anything, the innate evil thats present in some humans, to me, is evidence that there is no hell...all the hell there ever needs to be is present right here on earth every single day

    ask them muthafuckas in haiti walking over dead bodies in the street if they are in hell right now and see what they say

    Well obviously people go through horrible situations on earth that makes them feel like their living in hell, but real hell is never ending pain and suffering with no sight of happiness or peace, no place in this living world of ours can be described as that. Cuz no matter how bad things get, good things always seem to come sooner or later.
  • blank..
    blank.. stew Members Posts: 7,586 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    Yeh it is, and somebody lock this 🤬 .
  • [Deleted User]
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    The user and all related content has been deleted.
  • ccluvsau
    ccluvsau Members Posts: 1,852 ✭✭
    edited January 2010
    blank.. wrote: »
    Yeh it is, and somebody lock this 🤬 .

    ^^this^^

    . . .
  • Digicel_woman
    Digicel_woman Members Posts: 60
    edited January 2010
    yes it is.....
  • Eternal Bachelor
    Eternal Bachelor Members Posts: 656
    edited January 2010
    CMac wrote: »
    Well obviously people go through horrible situations on earth that makes them feel like their living in hell, but real hell is never ending pain and suffering with no sight of happiness or peace, no place in this living world of ours can be described as that. Cuz no matter how bad things get, good things always seem to come sooner or later.

    there is no hell fam...and there is no heaven...

    its all made up religious 🤬 made to keep people in line...
  • blank..
    blank.. stew Members Posts: 7,586 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    ccluvsau wrote: »
    ^^this^^

    . . .

    Hey sweety.
  • freshb651
    freshb651 Members Posts: 8,240 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    Countless have asked, "If 🤬 is so good, why would He create a place like hell?

    This is similar to asking, "If our government is so good, why would it create prisons?

    The answer seems simple enough - places like hell and prisons exist because some people will choose to do the wrong thing, and because of that, they need to be punished.

    It is fairly easy to understand how this reasoning applies to the existence of prisons, but does it really pertain to hell as well?

    However, the Bible tells us in Matthew 25:41 that hell was later prepared for "the devil and his angels.

    see also Isaiah 14:12

    🤬 did not create hell for man; it was never His intention that any man or woman should go to hell. In 2 Peter 3:9, we learn that 🤬 does not want "anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance."

    What is hell? Hell is a real place.

    We know this from many verses in the Bible, several of them spoken by Jesus, Himself; and we know that the wicked and unrighteous will go there when they die.

    So once again, we are back to the main point that 🤬 is good, and life in hell is terrible, so why would 🤬 create such a place? Even though hell was initially created to hold Satan and the angels that fell with him, there will also be men and women in hell.

    Is hell real? Hell is a place of eternal separation from 🤬 , and people go there when they die because they chose to separate themselves from 🤬 while living on earth

    🤬 created us with the free will to make our own choices, and separating ourselves from 🤬 is one of the choices we are free to make. Our free will is a wonderful gift from 🤬 in that He does not force us to love Him or to follow Him. Without our free will, we would be nothing but puppets or robots, which does not please 🤬 , and certainly does nothing to better our lives.

    While 🤬 desires that everyone would choose to love Him, some people will choose not to

    These people will die in their sins and be separated from 🤬 forever in hell. Many would say that this is unfair, and that a loving 🤬 would never set up a system such as this; however, it is precisely 🤬 's love for us, and the fact that He is perfectly just, that tells us why hell exists, and why men and women will choose to go there. 🤬 loves us so much that He respects our freedom of choice.

    If we choose not to love Him, then why would He want to force us to live with Him eternally in heaven? Wouldn't living for eternity with someone we don't love be hell anyway? 🤬 wants to spare those people who don't love Him from having to live with Him and be under His rule for eternity.

    Is Hell Real? - Is It Punishment For The Wicked?
    The question, "Is hell real?" is answered "no" by a lot of people. These people would like to believe that when we die, we don't go to a heaven or a hell, we simply cease to exist. However, wouldn't a 🤬 who sends us into nonexistence at death be just as "cruel" as one who allows us to freely choose our own destiny, which could be hell? Even atheist Friedrich Nietzsche said that he would rather choose eternally conscious suffering than nonexistence.

    very good post,i also heard another theory on the meaning of life and this one seems most acurate to me.Sylvia Brown(the psychic) said that the purpose of life is the search of perfection,she said that you live Many lifetimes as men as women as black as white as everything.That's what reincarnation is,also deja-vu or when you meet somebody and you instantly feel like you "know" them already it's because you did know them in a past life.She said you continue to reincarnate until you're nearly perfect.So if you were a killer in a past life your goal this life would be not to 🤬 but also be peaceful,so it's like what you don't do right in this life you have to do right next life.
  • Yung_Souf_Money
    Yung_Souf_Money Members Posts: 4,019 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    Of course hell exist...


    🤬 's perfect justice also demands that there be a hell to punish the unrepentant and wicked among us.


    What kind of a loving 🤬 would He be if the wicked were never punished? Why would He have sent His Son to die for our sins, if we could reject that redemption and not eventually pay the price? What incentive would we have to do good and love 🤬 if we knew we could reject His Son and choose to do evil all of our lives and never be punished? We would not want this lack of justice in the streets of our cities and towns, so why do we expect 🤬 to mete it out in the overall universe?

    Eternal Hell (the lake of fire) was originally prepared for the devil and his angels (Matthew 25:41). "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." (Revelation 20:10)

    Eternal Hell exists! Hell is a real, literal place of wailing, gnashing of teeth, separation, outer darkness in hell's lake of unquenchable fire with burning, torments and everlasting punishment!

    Would you gamble with your soul that hell is NOT real? That's what your doing if you don't take the Bible's warning about hell seriously because the Bible says hell is real.

    If YOU died tonight, would you go to HELL, or would you be good enough for HEAVEN?

    The Bible says, "it is appointed unto man once to die and then the judgement" (Hebrews 9:27).
  • ChillaDaKilla
    ChillaDaKilla Retired * In between some thighs Members, Banned Users Posts: 7,082 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    yea its real and a 🤬 aint trying to burn for eternity i dont want that
  • glowy
    glowy Members Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
  • CMac
    CMac Members Posts: 5,748 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    there is no hell fam...and there is no heaven...

    its all made up religious 🤬 made to keep people in line...

    Oh so you an atheist 🤬 making this thread then??? I anit even gonna comment I had way too many atheist arguments with posters on here. All I'm gonna say is even if Hell and Heaven don't exist, it's extremely important to believe in such things in order to control the actions a person might make in their life. But then again you as an atheist would never contemplate such a thought.
  • fiat_money
    fiat_money Members Posts: 16,654 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    "Hell", is merely a bad translation of the Hebrew word "Sheol"; which means "grave" or "pit". The later substitution for "sheol" is "Hades"; it's meaning is still the same.

    Word to the Septuagint.
  • usmarin3
    usmarin3 Members Posts: 38,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    There is no heaven or hell, everything in the bible is symbolism, metaphors, and allegory for contrast (light and dark). Light representing (consciousness) and darkness (suffering,pain,greed,unconsciousness). The whole concept of hell and religion as a whole is human construct imo.
  • SweetzIsAwesome
    SweetzIsAwesome Members Posts: 462
    edited January 2010