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Present day Black Egyptians

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  • KingKemetKingKemet Posts: 138 ✭✭✭
    @Banjeefish---You are aware that many pharoahs during the Egyptian dynasties were from Sudan right? It just seems like you're trying to deflect the fact that we had great dynasties back in the day. Actually, the first hominid and civilizations can be traced back to Africa. We're the original people man. We had the first dominant culture which has now transitioned into Europeans having the dominant culture which seems like it might shift to the mongols (china) next.

    Whats the problem with talking about Egypt? Whats the problem talking about West Africa? Its all Africa. If the thread starter wants to focus on Egypt why not? Your asking how does one know if their ancestors trace back to Sudan and Egypt, how do you know that they dont? They're all Africans at the end of the day.
  • KingKemetKingKemet Posts: 138 ✭✭✭
    By the way, great pics man. Handsome and gorgeous lot I must say.
  • bambubambu *Earth & Water* Posts: 3,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2012
    BanjeeFish wrote: »
    I'm still waiting for somebody to provide me with credible proof that sub-saharan west africa had a written language, pre-colonial, pre-arabic/islamic invasion. That's all I ask. No name-calling or any of the extra, unnecessary shit.

    I WANT to learn more. Really. I just don't want conclusory bullshit.

    c/s

    I'm Ghanaian nobody in West Africa had a written language prior to contact with Arab Jews and Arab Muslims.

    Nobody on this board is going to be able to provide you with what you are asking for because it does not exist.

    West Africans never had a written langauge and were for the most part illiterate and this is one of many reasons why the Islamicization and European colonization of West Africa was so successful.

    Obtaining a clear understanding of history is difficult due to the overwhelming influence of European imperialization, but if you want to learn more here is a start:

    Merotic Language of ancient Nubia - Now you may not consider the Nubians West African, but the ancient Sahel corridor certainly provides evidence for mobility into what is known as the Nilo-Saharan or Nubia.http://www.mendeley.com/research/a-bidirectional-corridor-in-the-sahelsudan-belt-and-the-distinctive-features-of-the-chad-basin-populations-a-history-revealed-by-the-mitochondrial-dna-genome-1/

    an Afroasiatic language? http://www.soas.ac.uk/linguistics/research/workingpapers/volume-14/file37822.pdf

    bookleteer.com/book.html?id=850#page/1/mode/1up ~ This excavation will conclude in 2013 and should provide the most detailed research on ancient Nubia to date. This video uses early information from this scholarship. I do not agree with all of views expressed in it, but it provides details on the African language.



    The Dogon code - West African influence on Egyptian hieroglyphs and the Hebrew language.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/54118219/The-Science-of-the-Dogon


    Men need images..... Lacking them they invent idols.



  • bambubambu *Earth & Water* Posts: 3,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    bambu wrote: »
    BanjeeFish wrote: »
    I'm still waiting for somebody to provide me with credible proof that sub-saharan west africa had a written language, pre-colonial, pre-arabic/islamic invasion. That's all I ask. No name-calling or any of the extra, unnecessary shit.

    I WANT to learn more. Really. I just don't want conclusory bullshit.

    c/s

    I'm Ghanaian nobody in West Africa had a written language prior to contact with Arab Jews and Arab Muslims.

    Nobody on this board is going to be able to provide you with what you are asking for because it does not exist.

    West Africans never had a written langauge and were for the most part illiterate and this is one of many reasons why the Islamicization and European colonization of West Africa was so successful.

    Obtaining a clear understanding of history is difficult due to the overwhelming influence of European imperialization, but if you want to learn more here is a start:

    Merotic Language of ancient Nubia - Now you may not consider the Nubians West African, but the ancient Sahel corridor certainly provides evidence for mobility into what is known as the Nilo-Saharan or Nubia.http://www.mendeley.com/research/a-bidirectional-corridor-in-the-sahelsudan-belt-and-the-distinctive-features-of-the-chad-basin-populations-a-history-revealed-by-the-mitochondrial-dna-genome-1/

    an Afroasiatic language? http://www.soas.ac.uk/linguistics/research/workingpapers/volume-14/file37822.pdf

    bookleteer.com/book.html?id=850#page/1/mode/1up ~ This excavation will conclude in 2013 and should provide the most detailed research on ancient Nubia to date. This video uses early information from this scholarship. I do not agree with all of views expressed in it, but it provides details on the African language.



    The Dogon code - West African influence on Egyptian hieroglyphs and the Hebrew language.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/54118219/The-Science-of-the-Dogon


    75810700.jpg


    Men need images..... Lacking them they invent idols.



  • BanjeeFishBanjeeFish Posts: 308
    KingKemet wrote: »
    @Banjeefish---You are aware that many pharoahs during the Egyptian dynasties were from Sudan right? It just seems like you're trying to deflect the fact that we had great dynasties back in the day. Actually, the first hominid and civilizations can be traced back to Africa. We're the original people man. We had the first dominant culture which has now transitioned into Europeans having the dominant culture which seems like it might shift to the mongols (china) next.

    Whats the problem with talking about Egypt? Whats the problem talking about West Africa? Its all Africa. If the thread starter wants to focus on Egypt why not? Your asking how does one know if their ancestors trace back to Sudan and Egypt, how do you know that they dont? They're all Africans at the end of the day.

    Well, if that's the case, then White's are African's, too. They come from the same "original" people that we come from - they just travelled further.

    I don't have a problem mentioning Egypt. I have a problem with black people using Egypt to assert a sense of "pride" when it's really just overcompensating for the feelings of inferiority they are trying to fight.

    Whether or not Pharoes came from Sudan is irrelevant. I've got no proof whatsoever, that any of my ancestors were Pharoes. I've got no proof, whatsoever, that any of my ancestors ever set foot on the land we, today, call Sudan. Neither do you. Of course you are free to use your imagination. But to try and incorporate that into reality is just delusional.

    I've got a good idea of where my ancestors actually came from. It's Africa, but it's not Egypt. And I don't NEED it to be Egypt. lol I am JUST AS VALUABLE - NO MATTER WHERE THEY COME FROM. I don't need some grandiose ancestral line to hold my head up, today. Maybe my ancestors were illiterate slaves, or farmers, while they were in West Africa. That's a more realistic scenario. Their legacy STILL deserves much respect and honor.

  • bambubambu *Earth & Water* Posts: 3,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    BanjeeFish wrote: »

    Well, if that's the case, then White's are African's, too. They come from the same "original" people that we come from - they just travelled further.

    I don't have a problem mentioning Egypt. I have a problem with black people using Egypt to assert a sense of "pride" when it's really just overcompensating for the feelings of inferiority they are trying to fight.

    Whether or not Pharoes came from Sudan is irrelevant. I've got no proof whatsoever, that any of my ancestors were Pharoes. I've got no proof, whatsoever, that any of my ancestors ever set foot on the land we, today, call Sudan. Neither do you. Of course you are free to use your imagination. But to try and incorporate that into reality is just delusional.

    I've got a good idea of where my ancestors actually came from. It's Africa, but it's not Egypt. And I don't NEED it to be Egypt. lol I am JUST AS VALUABLE - NO MATTER WHERE THEY COME FROM. I don't need some grandiose ancestral line to hold my head up, today. Maybe my ancestors were illiterate slaves, or farmers, while they were in West Africa. That's a more realistic scenario. Their legacy STILL deserves much respect and honor.

    Ask for some type of evidence and then ignore it.....

    Your ancestors were illiterate slaves


    Men need images..... Lacking them they invent idols.



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