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Is the Old Testament 🤬 Really 🤬 ?

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  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    Lol the Bible teaches that there is a 🤬 of this world and the true 🤬 the one Jesus revealed in the New Testament.

    2 Corinthians 4:4
    The 🤬 of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of 🤬 .


  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    edited August 2012
    If one reads a so called holy book where it is commanded for grown men to 🤬 infants, elderly, and women in an entire city then why be shocked at what humans do to each other now a days? The Bible has ppl that are commanded to assemble into a army and make war with another group of ppl then you wonder why humans are still having wars with each other?


    Revelation 12:9
    And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    Lol the title makes it sound like 🤬 was on vacation and his 🤬 brother was 🤬 around with the creation machine. Then he comes back and is like ” what the 🤬 ?” Boom New Testament

    That is a radical change. It does sound like it's two different beings.

    you have eyes to see and ears to hear..

  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭

    2 Corinthians 3:13-20

    King James Version (KJV)


    13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

    14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

    15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.

    16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

    17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty
  • waterproof
    waterproof Conqueror of Self On The Road to ZionMembers Posts: 9,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
    beenwize wrote: »
    Surprised nobody has yet been able to come against the first video in this thread cuz they are Bible worshippers in FEAR of the 🤬 of THIS world.

    Are you serious do you ever research the people who you take for truth, go research those people in that video and come back so we can talk about them
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    Surprised nobody has yet been able to come against the first video in this thread cuz they are Bible worshippers in FEAR of the 🤬 of THIS world.

    Are you serious do you ever research the people who you take for truth, go research those people in that video and come back so we can talk about them

    I don't take ppl for truth.. I take truth for truth.

  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    All animal sacrifices are by their nature sacrifices to demons.
    Baruch quotes directly from the Book of Enoch.
    "Sacrificing to Demons as Gods" is from the Book of Enoch.
    "(S)acrificing to demons and not to 🤬 " is from "Baruch."
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭

    Teaching ppl the use of a weapon..

    2 Samuel 1:18
    ) (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    1Moreover Azazyel taught men to make swords, knives, shields, breastplates, the fabrication of mirrors, and the workmanship of bracelets and ornaments, the use of paint, the beautifying of the eyebrows, the use of stones of every valuable and select kind, and all sorts of dyes, so that the world became altered.
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    And Uriel said to me: 'Here shall stand the angels who have connected themselves with women, and their spirits assuming many different forms are defiling mankind and shall lead them astray into sacrificing to demons as gods...19: 1
  • Rock_Well
    Rock_Well Members Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    🤬 in the Old Testament is dealing with a bunch of untrained, violent, barbarian-mentality, trying to smash male ANGELS type cats...and you wonder why so many ppl had to get clipped He had to make more examples outta ppl than a little bit. look Genesis how long it took for mankind to become so evil they CONTINUALLY only had wicked thoughts and 🤬 had to cleanse the world saving only 8 ppl. Jesus got on the scene and put everybody in check, ever since then its a bunch of ppl in general on good behavior. He don't gotta bother with wiping out entire bloodlines, He just deal with the individuals. The difference comes from the morality of the mass ppl in each era.
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    🤬 in the Old Testament is dealing with a bunch of untrained, violent, barbarian-mentality, trying to smash male ANGELS type cats...and you wonder why so many ppl had to get clipped He had to make more examples outta ppl than a little bit. look Genesis how long it took for mankind to become so evil they CONTINUALLY only had wicked thoughts and 🤬 had to cleanse the world saving only 8 ppl. Jesus got on the scene and put everybody in check, ever since then its a bunch of ppl in general on good behavior. He don't gotta bother with wiping out entire bloodlines, He just deal with the individuals. The difference comes from the morality of the mass ppl in each era.


    I've heard this theory numerous times from Christian apologetics.. And I don't buy any of it.

  • judahxulu
    judahxulu Members Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭✭✭

    beenwize wrote: »
    All animal sacrifices are by their nature sacrifices to demons.
    Baruch quotes directly from the Book of Enoch.
    "Sacrificing to Demons as Gods" is from the Book of Enoch.
    "(S)acrificing to demons and not to 🤬 " is from "Baruch."

    Dude. Animal sacrifice is outlawed in the prophecies of the OT. You lack understanding. Why do you even care about the subject if you aint gone study it for real? Craziness...pointless....
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    edited August 2012
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    All animal sacrifices are by their nature sacrifices to demons.
    Baruch quotes directly from the Book of Enoch.
    "Sacrificing to Demons as Gods" is from the Book of Enoch.
    "(S)acrificing to demons and not to 🤬 " is from "Baruch."

    Dude. Animal sacrifice is outlawed in the prophecies of the OT. You lack understanding. Why do you even care about the subject if you aint gone study it for real? Craziness...pointless....


    The scriptures of Baruch and the book of Enoch state that animal sacrifices are really to demons. Yet their are animal sacrifice laws in the Old Testament.


    1 Kings 18:38
    Then the fire of the LORD fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the water that was in the trench.

    Leviticus 9:24 Fire came out from the presence of the LORD and consumed the burnt offering and the fat portions on the altar. And when all the people saw it, they shouted for joy and fell facedown.

    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    All animal sacrifices are by their nature sacrifices to demons.
    Baruch quotes directly from the Book of Enoch.
    "Sacrificing to Demons as Gods" is from the Book of Enoch.
    "(S)acrificing to demons and not to 🤬 " is from "Baruch."

    Dude. Animal sacrifice is outlawed in the prophecies of the OT. You lack understanding. Why do you even care about the subject if you aint gone study it for real? Craziness...pointless....

    Ezekiel 20:40
    For in mine holy mountain, in the mountain of the height of Israel, saith the Lord 🤬 , there shall all the house of Israel, all of them in the land, serve me: there will I accept them, and there will I require your offerings, and the firstfruits of your oblations, with all your holy things.

    Isaiah 56:7
    Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon my altar; for my house shall be called a house of prayer for all people.
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    All animal sacrifices are by their nature sacrifices to demons.
    Baruch quotes directly from the Book of Enoch.
    "Sacrificing to Demons as Gods" is from the Book of Enoch.
    "(S)acrificing to demons and not to 🤬 " is from "Baruch."

    Dude. Animal sacrifice is outlawed in the prophecies of the OT. You lack understanding. Why do you even care about the subject if you aint gone study it for real? Craziness...pointless....

    Animal sacrifice is outlawed in the prophecies of the OT?

    Oh really? apparently you lack understanding. The Old Testament scriptures describes alters for burnt offerings in it's description of restored Jerusalem.


    Ezekiel 40:38-43

    And the chambers and the entries thereof were by the posts of the gates, where they washed the burnt offering.

    And in the porch of the gate were two tables on this side, and two tables on that side, to slay thereon the burnt offering and the sin offering and the trespass offering.

    And at the side without, as one goeth up to the entry of the north gate, were two tables; and on the other side, which was at the porch of the gate, were two tables.

    Four tables were on this side, and four tables on that side, by the side of the gate; eight tables, whereupon they slew their sacrifices.

    And the four tables were of hewn stone for the burnt offering, of a cubit and an half long, and a cubit and an half broad, and one cubit high: whereupon also they laid the instruments wherewith they slew the burnt offering and the sacrifice.

    And within were hooks, an hand broad, fastened round about: and upon the tables was the flesh of the offering.








    Ezekiel 43:18-27

    18 And he said unto me, Son of man, thus saith the Lord 🤬 ; These are the ordinances of the altar in the day when they shall make it, to offer burnt offerings thereon, and to sprinkle blood thereon.

    19 And thou shalt give to the priests the Levites that be of the seed of Zadok, which approach unto me, to minister unto me, saith the Lord 🤬 , a young bullock for a sin offering.

    20 And thou shalt take of the blood thereof, and put it on the four horns of it, and on the four corners of the settle, and upon the border round about: thus shalt thou cleanse and purge it.

    21 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall burn it in the appointed place of the house, without the sanctuary.

    22 And on the second day thou shalt offer a kid of the goats without blemish for a sin offering; and they shall cleanse the altar, as they did cleanse it with the bullock.

    23 When thou hast made an end of cleansing it, thou shalt offer a young bullock without blemish, and a ram out of the flock without blemish.

    24 And thou shalt offer them before the Lord, and the priests shall cast salt upon them, and they shall offer them up for a burnt offering unto the Lord.

    25 Seven days shalt thou prepare every day a goat for a sin offering: they shall also prepare a young bullock, and a ram out of the flock, without blemish.

    26 Seven days shall they purge the altar and purify it; and they shall consecrate themselves.

    27 And when these days are expired, it shall be, that upon the eighth day, and so forward, the priests shall make your burnt offerings upon the altar, and your peace offerings; and I will accept you, saith the Lord 🤬 .
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    Yahweh consumed 22,000 animals and 120,000 sheep and goats from one man..

    1 Kings 8:63 Solomon offered a sacrifice of fellowship offerings to the LORD: twenty-two thousand cattle and a hundred and twenty thousand sheep and goats. So the king and all the Israelites dedicated the temple of the LORD.
  • judahxulu
    judahxulu Members Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭✭✭
    SMH... I dont care dude. Thats between you and the Most High. Im just letting you know youre wrong and you can look and see for yourself Im not lying. Even if I convince you of my view, nothing is in it for me at all so whatever 🤬 .... This is all meaningless.
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    judahxulu wrote: »
    SMH... I dont care dude. Thats between you and the Most High. Im just letting you know youre wrong and you can look and see for yourself Im not lying. Even if I convince you of my view, nothing is in it for me at all so whatever 🤬 .... This is all meaningless.


    exactly.. And I don't believe in your 🤬 .
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    good video on Old Testament 🤬 and his animal sacrifice.


  • judahxulu
    judahxulu Members Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭✭✭
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    SMH... I dont care dude. Thats between you and the Most High. Im just letting you know youre wrong and you can look and see for yourself Im not lying. Even if I convince you of my view, nothing is in it for me at all so whatever 🤬 .... This is all meaningless.


    exactly.. And I don't believe in your 🤬 .

    I dont have a 🤬 . YHWH does not require your belief. And if you did think as I thought, again..nothing is in it for me.
  • Disciplined InSight
    Disciplined InSight The Clairvoyant One.... Members Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe this..

    beenwize=KTULU
  • Rock_Well
    Rock_Well Members Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    haha, nah...but i see what u mean^
  • judahxulu
    judahxulu Members Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe this..

    beenwize=KTULU

    nah...i think that 🤬 died of loneliness and cervical cancer.
  • judahxulu
    judahxulu Members Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ..or KTULU done fell off..more...
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    SMH... I dont care dude. Thats between you and the Most High. Im just letting you know youre wrong and you can look and see for yourself Im not lying. Even if I convince you of my view, nothing is in it for me at all so whatever 🤬 .... This is all meaningless.


    exactly.. And I don't believe in your 🤬 .

    I dont have a 🤬 . YHWH does not require your belief. And if you did think as I thought, again..nothing is in it for me.

    Oh I believe in 🤬 oe a Creator.. i jus don't believe in the same entity you believe in.