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The Official Dragonball Super Thread (All my DBZ fans come in here)

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  • TheRicanKing
    TheRicanKing Members Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jono wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    1. It was mentioned TWICE that Zamasu was weakening. TWICE that his body was unstable and falling apart.

    Trunks isn't stronger than Vegito. Vegito defused before he could finish the job (which would have been anti-climatic in the end because he was clearly stronger than Zamasu.)

    2. The Elder Kai + Witch fusion is likely not canon and a product of filler.

    3. Trunks gathered energy from Goku, Vegeta and all the others.. CONCENTRATED it into his sword and used to attack a WEAKENED Zamasu. Half of Zamasu's body was falling apart, literally he lost a great deal of power.

    4. Trunks repeatedly reaching new heights from rage boosts and "hope power" is no different than all the 🤬 Goku and Gohan did throughout DB and DBZ. Relax, emotions and determination equal power in the DB universe.

    5. Vegito using too much power and his fusion failing is the same thing that happens to Gotenks several times in DBZ. The potara has limits, chances are Zamasu also reached that limit, we shall see.

    6. I got nothing for the Spirit Bomb formation. They need to explain that, and likely won't.

    2. It is canon.


    3. I knew this already but it's 🤬 . Reminds me of the way Broly got done by Goku in the first movie too lol.

    4. Goku and Gohan made complete sense and it wasn't used every episode like this arc practically did. Hopefully we have some explanation to Trunks power ups soon.

    5. Retconned, nothing to be said here. I don't have to like it. But nonetheless..

    6. :|

    I'm going to need you to prove its canon just for the sake of argument.

    Trunks isn't a character that's around that often. It needed to be microwaved. They made it clear that Trunks saw this Goku Black thing as his responsibility, and that he intended on doing whatever he could to win.

    Its almost literally the same thing Gohan had during the Cell Games. He was the last one standing and the fate of everyone rested on him.

    Theres a scene where Frieza is drowning Goku in DBZ and Goku realizes he's the last one capable of winning.



    It wasn't as drawn out but Trunks saw the reflection of those kids in that broken sword and realized he had to do It.

    kqymhfparz7y.png

    All this butthurt is coming from Vegito fans. It was a fitting end to battle. Trunks was owed that W for all the Ls he caught. He was made whole.

    I don't have access to the manga but it should be in Volume 24.


    And I respectfully disagree with your comparison to Gohan's situation because as I've said that was properly built up and foreshadowed. Episode 66 was super fast paced with retcons , deus ex machinas and random 🤬 (spirit bomb). This ain't really buthurt it's fair criticism this episode is getting unlike the past ones bar the animation issues. Even mofos on YouTube that are huge fans like us are saying "Wtf this doesn't make sense but it's cool and epic Lolo lol"
  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beta wrote: »
    I wish I knew what ret conned meant ..head canon? Who comes up with this 🤬

    Retroactive continuity. Basically, it's the act of contradicting something already firmly established in a story's past.

    Aka 🤬 writing

    This would be true if you were talking about a story written in a single book or even a trilogy of books, but when you're talking about stories written across as many arcs as you get in long running comics or manga, it's almost impossible not to have retcons from time to time.

    Retcons aren't automatically 🤬 writing. It depends how they are done. In this case, it shouldn't be seen as that big of a deal. Keep in mind that, the Potora earrings aren't something that mortals ever encounter, so the knowledge of how they would affect two mortals was understandably not very widely known. So it's perfectly reasonable writing for Elder Kai to have simply been wrong. The Kais are not omniscient and have already been shown to be capable of being wrong or ignorant about something.
  • jono
    jono Right fist = power, left fist = unity Members Posts: 30,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2016
    jono wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    1. It was mentioned TWICE that Zamasu was weakening. TWICE that his body was unstable and falling apart.

    Trunks isn't stronger than Vegito. Vegito defused before he could finish the job (which would have been anti-climatic in the end because he was clearly stronger than Zamasu.)

    2. The Elder Kai + Witch fusion is likely not canon and a product of filler.

    3. Trunks gathered energy from Goku, Vegeta and all the others.. CONCENTRATED it into his sword and used to attack a WEAKENED Zamasu. Half of Zamasu's body was falling apart, literally he lost a great deal of power.

    4. Trunks repeatedly reaching new heights from rage boosts and "hope power" is no different than all the 🤬 Goku and Gohan did throughout DB and DBZ. Relax, emotions and determination equal power in the DB universe.

    5. Vegito using too much power and his fusion failing is the same thing that happens to Gotenks several times in DBZ. The potara has limits, chances are Zamasu also reached that limit, we shall see.

    6. I got nothing for the Spirit Bomb formation. They need to explain that, and likely won't.

    2. It is canon.


    3. I knew this already but it's 🤬 . Reminds me of the way Broly got done by Goku in the first movie too lol.

    4. Goku and Gohan made complete sense and it wasn't used every episode like this arc practically did. Hopefully we have some explanation to Trunks power ups soon.

    5. Retconned, nothing to be said here. I don't have to like it. But nonetheless..

    6. :|

    I'm going to need you to prove its canon just for the sake of argument.

    Trunks isn't a character that's around that often. It needed to be microwaved. They made it clear that Trunks saw this Goku Black thing as his responsibility, and that he intended on doing whatever he could to win.

    Its almost literally the same thing Gohan had during the Cell Games. He was the last one standing and the fate of everyone rested on him.

    Theres a scene where Frieza is drowning Goku in DBZ and Goku realizes he's the last one capable of winning.



    It wasn't as drawn out but Trunks saw the reflection of those kids in that broken sword and realized he had to do It.

    kqymhfparz7y.png

    All this butthurt is coming from Vegito fans. It was a fitting end to battle. Trunks was owed that W for all the Ls he caught. He was made whole.

    I don't have access to the manga but it should be in Volume 24.


    And I respectfully disagree with your comparison to Gohan's situation because as I've said that was properly built up and foreshadowed. Episode 66 was super fast paced with retcons , deus ex machinas and random 🤬 (spirit bomb). This ain't really buthurt it's fair criticism this episode is getting unlike the past ones bar the animation issues. Even mofos on YouTube that are huge fans like us are saying "Wtf this doesn't make sense but it's cool and epic Lolo lol"

    Mfs on youtube and other sites have kneejerk reactions, I have provided samples and proofs.

    Trunks winning was foreshadowed over and over again now that I think about it.

    When Trunks was training wit Vegeta and he saw the blue form for the first time he had a sigh of relief. In context he believed that Goku & Vegeta will defeat Black for him and there was no reason for him to become stronger...

    Vegeta gets 🤬 at this...


    This was 12 eps ago.

    Following seeing Goku and Vegeta fail at SSB, Trunks powers up to a new level. Motivated by his desire to save his own time...



    That 5 eps ago.

    Y'all haven't been paying attention. Trunks was the hero the whole time.

    The Father - Son Gallick Gun. Trunks says "My power, be a shield to save the world, the humans..." then they show the sword in the ground after Zamasu broke it.



    They didn't have 100 eps to build to it but they foreshadowed this over and over again.

    DBS KILLED this arc, all of these moments most people know off hand if they've been watching, what the knee jerkers have done is fail to put it all together...which is what you're supposed to do...

    This is storytelling.

  • LcnsdbyROYALTY
    LcnsdbyROYALTY King of Myself Members Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beta wrote: »
    I wish I knew what ret conned meant ..head canon? Who comes up with this 🤬

    Retroactive continuity. Basically, it's the act of contradicting something already firmly established in a story's past.

    Aka 🤬 writing

    Careful... You know who might take offense to that lol
  • jono
    jono Right fist = power, left fist = unity Members Posts: 30,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They also in their feelings because Vegito didn't win but thats anti-climactic for starters and secondly this is a Trunks story.

    Trunks and Zamasu are linked near perfectly. In classic writing the hero and the villain are opposites but are very much alike.

    Zamasu- 🤬
    Trunks - mortal
    ----
    Zamasu - not a strong 🤬 but through his own determination and intelligence became the 🤬 of Gods in Trunks time.

    Trunks - not the strongest saiyan but through his own determination and willpower gained the strength to beat back the wrath of the Gods.
    Zamasu - cut corners (used the dragonballs)

    Trunks - work ethic, training and determination
    ----
    Zamasu - self absorbed, narcissistic personality

    Trunks - self sacrifice, altruistic personality
    ----
    Zamasu - fused with himself and only trusted and relied on himself

    Trunks - absorbed powers from everyone, knew he couldn't do it alone
    ----
    Zamasu - primary weapon is a ki blade

    Trunks - primary weapon is a normal iron sword that he later converts to a ki blade
    ---
    Zamasu - uses a mortals body to impose the wrath of the Gods

    Trunks - uses a bit of 🤬 ki to protect the humans

  • TheRicanKing
    TheRicanKing Members Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jono wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    1. It was mentioned TWICE that Zamasu was weakening. TWICE that his body was unstable and falling apart.

    Trunks isn't stronger than Vegito. Vegito defused before he could finish the job (which would have been anti-climatic in the end because he was clearly stronger than Zamasu.)

    2. The Elder Kai + Witch fusion is likely not canon and a product of filler.

    3. Trunks gathered energy from Goku, Vegeta and all the others.. CONCENTRATED it into his sword and used to attack a WEAKENED Zamasu. Half of Zamasu's body was falling apart, literally he lost a great deal of power.

    4. Trunks repeatedly reaching new heights from rage boosts and "hope power" is no different than all the 🤬 Goku and Gohan did throughout DB and DBZ. Relax, emotions and determination equal power in the DB universe.

    5. Vegito using too much power and his fusion failing is the same thing that happens to Gotenks several times in DBZ. The potara has limits, chances are Zamasu also reached that limit, we shall see.

    6. I got nothing for the Spirit Bomb formation. They need to explain that, and likely won't.

    2. It is canon.


    3. I knew this already but it's 🤬 . Reminds me of the way Broly got done by Goku in the first movie too lol.

    4. Goku and Gohan made complete sense and it wasn't used every episode like this arc practically did. Hopefully we have some explanation to Trunks power ups soon.

    5. Retconned, nothing to be said here. I don't have to like it. But nonetheless..

    6. :|

    I'm going to need you to prove its canon just for the sake of argument.

    Trunks isn't a character that's around that often. It needed to be microwaved. They made it clear that Trunks saw this Goku Black thing as his responsibility, and that he intended on doing whatever he could to win.

    Its almost literally the same thing Gohan had during the Cell Games. He was the last one standing and the fate of everyone rested on him.

    Theres a scene where Frieza is drowning Goku in DBZ and Goku realizes he's the last one capable of winning.



    It wasn't as drawn out but Trunks saw the reflection of those kids in that broken sword and realized he had to do It.

    kqymhfparz7y.png

    All this butthurt is coming from Vegito fans. It was a fitting end to battle. Trunks was owed that W for all the Ls he caught. He was made whole.

    I don't have access to the manga but it should be in Volume 24.


    And I respectfully disagree with your comparison to Gohan's situation because as I've said that was properly built up and foreshadowed. Episode 66 was super fast paced with retcons , deus ex machinas and random 🤬 (spirit bomb). This ain't really buthurt it's fair criticism this episode is getting unlike the past ones bar the animation issues. Even mofos on YouTube that are huge fans like us are saying "Wtf this doesn't make sense but it's cool and epic Lolo lol"

    Mfs on youtube and other sites have kneejerk reactions, I have provided samples and proofs.

    Trunks winning was foreshadowed over and over again now that I think about it.

    When Trunks was training wit Vegeta and he saw the blue form for the first time he had a sigh of relief. In context he believed that Goku & Vegeta will defeat Black for him and there was no reason for him to become stronger...

    Vegeta gets 🤬 at this...


    This was 12 eps ago.

    Following seeing Goku and Vegeta fail at SSB, Trunks powers up to a new level. Motivated by his desire to save his own time...



    That 5 eps ago.

    Y'all haven't been paying attention. Trunks was the hero the whole time.

    The Father - Son Gallick Gun. Trunks says "My power, be a shield to save the world, the humans..." then they show the sword in the ground after Zamasu broke it.



    They didn't have 100 eps to build to it but they foreshadowed this over and over again.

    DBS KILLED this arc, all of these moments most people know off hand if they've been watching, what the knee jerkers have done is fail to put it all together...which is what you're supposed to do...

    This is storytelling.

    It ain't about him winning. It's about the way he did. Until we can an explanation for it, these were deus ex machinas. That motivation 🤬 wasn't helping anyone including him in his fight with cell nor Vegeta when Trunks died nor Gohan with fat Buu. Why? Because the gap between the respective opponents were huge. Merged Zamasu was losing power, you pointed that out but he still put up a fight against Vegito.

  • TheRicanKing
    TheRicanKing Members Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    But anyway that's enough from me. I'll go back to praying for the return of the mighty Gohan haha.
  • jono
    jono Right fist = power, left fist = unity Members Posts: 30,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jono wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    1. It was mentioned TWICE that Zamasu was weakening. TWICE that his body was unstable and falling apart.

    Trunks isn't stronger than Vegito. Vegito defused before he could finish the job (which would have been anti-climatic in the end because he was clearly stronger than Zamasu.)

    2. The Elder Kai + Witch fusion is likely not canon and a product of filler.

    3. Trunks gathered energy from Goku, Vegeta and all the others.. CONCENTRATED it into his sword and used to attack a WEAKENED Zamasu. Half of Zamasu's body was falling apart, literally he lost a great deal of power.

    4. Trunks repeatedly reaching new heights from rage boosts and "hope power" is no different than all the 🤬 Goku and Gohan did throughout DB and DBZ. Relax, emotions and determination equal power in the DB universe.

    5. Vegito using too much power and his fusion failing is the same thing that happens to Gotenks several times in DBZ. The potara has limits, chances are Zamasu also reached that limit, we shall see.

    6. I got nothing for the Spirit Bomb formation. They need to explain that, and likely won't.

    2. It is canon.


    3. I knew this already but it's 🤬 . Reminds me of the way Broly got done by Goku in the first movie too lol.

    4. Goku and Gohan made complete sense and it wasn't used every episode like this arc practically did. Hopefully we have some explanation to Trunks power ups soon.

    5. Retconned, nothing to be said here. I don't have to like it. But nonetheless..

    6. :|

    I'm going to need you to prove its canon just for the sake of argument.

    Trunks isn't a character that's around that often. It needed to be microwaved. They made it clear that Trunks saw this Goku Black thing as his responsibility, and that he intended on doing whatever he could to win.

    Its almost literally the same thing Gohan had during the Cell Games. He was the last one standing and the fate of everyone rested on him.

    Theres a scene where Frieza is drowning Goku in DBZ and Goku realizes he's the last one capable of winning.



    It wasn't as drawn out but Trunks saw the reflection of those kids in that broken sword and realized he had to do It.

    kqymhfparz7y.png

    All this butthurt is coming from Vegito fans. It was a fitting end to battle. Trunks was owed that W for all the Ls he caught. He was made whole.

    I don't have access to the manga but it should be in Volume 24.


    And I respectfully disagree with your comparison to Gohan's situation because as I've said that was properly built up and foreshadowed. Episode 66 was super fast paced with retcons , deus ex machinas and random 🤬 (spirit bomb). This ain't really buthurt it's fair criticism this episode is getting unlike the past ones bar the animation issues. Even mofos on YouTube that are huge fans like us are saying "Wtf this doesn't make sense but it's cool and epic Lolo lol"

    Mfs on youtube and other sites have kneejerk reactions, I have provided samples and proofs.

    Trunks winning was foreshadowed over and over again now that I think about it.

    When Trunks was training wit Vegeta and he saw the blue form for the first time he had a sigh of relief. In context he believed that Goku & Vegeta will defeat Black for him and there was no reason for him to become stronger...

    Vegeta gets 🤬 at this...


    This was 12 eps ago.

    Following seeing Goku and Vegeta fail at SSB, Trunks powers up to a new level. Motivated by his desire to save his own time...



    That 5 eps ago.

    Y'all haven't been paying attention. Trunks was the hero the whole time.

    The Father - Son Gallick Gun. Trunks says "My power, be a shield to save the world, the humans..." then they show the sword in the ground after Zamasu broke it.



    They didn't have 100 eps to build to it but they foreshadowed this over and over again.

    DBS KILLED this arc, all of these moments most people know off hand if they've been watching, what the knee jerkers have done is fail to put it all together...which is what you're supposed to do...

    This is storytelling.

    It ain't about him winning. It's about the way he did. Until we can an explanation for it, these were deus ex machinas. That motivation 🤬 wasn't helping anyone including him in his fight with cell nor Vegeta when Trunks died nor Gohan with fat Buu. Why? Because the gap between the respective opponents were huge. Merged Zamasu was losing power, you pointed that out but he still put up a fight against Vegito.



    Says its not about him winning...then complains about him winning.

    Bruh
  • Guy Gardner
    Guy Gardner Members Posts: 306 ✭✭✭✭
    🤬 made a spirit bomb sword on some voltron 🤬
  • TheRicanKing
    TheRicanKing Members Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jono wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    1. It was mentioned TWICE that Zamasu was weakening. TWICE that his body was unstable and falling apart.

    Trunks isn't stronger than Vegito. Vegito defused before he could finish the job (which would have been anti-climatic in the end because he was clearly stronger than Zamasu.)

    2. The Elder Kai + Witch fusion is likely not canon and a product of filler.

    3. Trunks gathered energy from Goku, Vegeta and all the others.. CONCENTRATED it into his sword and used to attack a WEAKENED Zamasu. Half of Zamasu's body was falling apart, literally he lost a great deal of power.

    4. Trunks repeatedly reaching new heights from rage boosts and "hope power" is no different than all the 🤬 Goku and Gohan did throughout DB and DBZ. Relax, emotions and determination equal power in the DB universe.

    5. Vegito using too much power and his fusion failing is the same thing that happens to Gotenks several times in DBZ. The potara has limits, chances are Zamasu also reached that limit, we shall see.

    6. I got nothing for the Spirit Bomb formation. They need to explain that, and likely won't.

    2. It is canon.


    3. I knew this already but it's 🤬 . Reminds me of the way Broly got done by Goku in the first movie too lol.

    4. Goku and Gohan made complete sense and it wasn't used every episode like this arc practically did. Hopefully we have some explanation to Trunks power ups soon.

    5. Retconned, nothing to be said here. I don't have to like it. But nonetheless..

    6. :|

    I'm going to need you to prove its canon just for the sake of argument.

    Trunks isn't a character that's around that often. It needed to be microwaved. They made it clear that Trunks saw this Goku Black thing as his responsibility, and that he intended on doing whatever he could to win.

    Its almost literally the same thing Gohan had during the Cell Games. He was the last one standing and the fate of everyone rested on him.

    Theres a scene where Frieza is drowning Goku in DBZ and Goku realizes he's the last one capable of winning.



    It wasn't as drawn out but Trunks saw the reflection of those kids in that broken sword and realized he had to do It.

    kqymhfparz7y.png

    All this butthurt is coming from Vegito fans. It was a fitting end to battle. Trunks was owed that W for all the Ls he caught. He was made whole.

    I don't have access to the manga but it should be in Volume 24.


    And I respectfully disagree with your comparison to Gohan's situation because as I've said that was properly built up and foreshadowed. Episode 66 was super fast paced with retcons , deus ex machinas and random 🤬 (spirit bomb). This ain't really buthurt it's fair criticism this episode is getting unlike the past ones bar the animation issues. Even mofos on YouTube that are huge fans like us are saying "Wtf this doesn't make sense but it's cool and epic Lolo lol"

    Mfs on youtube and other sites have kneejerk reactions, I have provided samples and proofs.

    Trunks winning was foreshadowed over and over again now that I think about it.

    When Trunks was training wit Vegeta and he saw the blue form for the first time he had a sigh of relief. In context he believed that Goku & Vegeta will defeat Black for him and there was no reason for him to become stronger...

    Vegeta gets 🤬 at this...


    This was 12 eps ago.

    Following seeing Goku and Vegeta fail at SSB, Trunks powers up to a new level. Motivated by his desire to save his own time...



    That 5 eps ago.

    Y'all haven't been paying attention. Trunks was the hero the whole time.

    The Father - Son Gallick Gun. Trunks says "My power, be a shield to save the world, the humans..." then they show the sword in the ground after Zamasu broke it.



    They didn't have 100 eps to build to it but they foreshadowed this over and over again.

    DBS KILLED this arc, all of these moments most people know off hand if they've been watching, what the knee jerkers have done is fail to put it all together...which is what you're supposed to do...

    This is storytelling.

    It ain't about him winning. It's about the way he did. Until we can an explanation for it, these were deus ex machinas. That motivation 🤬 wasn't helping anyone including him in his fight with cell nor Vegeta when Trunks died nor Gohan with fat Buu. Why? Because the gap between the respective opponents were huge. Merged Zamasu was losing power, you pointed that out but he still put up a fight against Vegito.



    Says its not about him winning...then complains about him winning.

    Bruh

    What's the next line guy? -.-
  • OmegaConflict
    OmegaConflict I AM A GIANT RETARD Members Posts: 39,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How do you debate a cartoon?
  • KnowReasonForPeace
    KnowReasonForPeace Legit 80s Baby... Members Posts: 2,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sion wrote: »
    Zamasu isn't completely dead yet And 🤬 just being fickle SMMFH. Trunks killing Zamasu was legit. Like I said they could have had Vegeta best him fair and square and 🤬 would have found fault with that and hated it. Wait for the arc to finish before jumping to ridiculing got dayum....

    Man 🤬 love this 🤬 regardless of the school girl whining. They still watching and posting in this thread.
  • OmegaConflict
    OmegaConflict I AM A GIANT RETARD Members Posts: 39,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2016
    Zamasu may be the best villian in dragonball far as character development and strength. Dude is controlling the heavens
  • OmegaConflict
    OmegaConflict I AM A GIANT RETARD Members Posts: 39,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CJ wrote: »
    Cell still my fav villian tho

    Cell stomping andriod 16 face was some gangsta 🤬
  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Zamasu may be the best villian in dragonball far as character development and strength. Dude is controlling the heavens

    He's also the first villain Goku didn't beat or didn't suggest he could have beaten had he really tried.
  • huey
    huey Members Posts: 11,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's almost almost a spirit bomb that kills the villain. But this whole saga was pointless with it being in the future
  • Beta
    Beta #FastFamily Members Posts: 65,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Zamasu may be the best villian in dragonball far as character development and strength. Dude is controlling the heavens

    He's also the first villain Goku didn't beat or didn't suggest he could have beaten had he really tried.

    Not cell?
  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beta wrote: »
    Zamasu may be the best villian in dragonball far as character development and strength. Dude is controlling the heavens

    He's also the first villain Goku didn't beat or didn't suggest he could have beaten had he really tried.

    Not cell?

    No. Goku thought his fight with Cell could have gone either way, but he was confident that Gohan could beat him, so he conceded and let Gohan fight. When it looked like Gohan wouldn't come out of his shell Goku wanted to go fight seriously, but it was too late.
  • CashmoneyDux
    CashmoneyDux Members Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beta wrote: »
    Zamasu may be the best villian in dragonball far as character development and strength. Dude is controlling the heavens

    He's also the first villain Goku didn't beat or didn't suggest he could have beaten had he really tried.

    Not cell?

    No. Goku thought his fight with Cell could have gone either way, but he was confident that Gohan could beat him, so he conceded and let Gohan fight. When it looked like Gohan wouldn't come out of his shell Goku wanted to go fight seriously, but it was too late.

    No, goku knew he couldn't win
  • OmegaConflict
    OmegaConflict I AM A GIANT RETARD Members Posts: 39,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2016
    Beta wrote: »
    Zamasu may be the best villian in dragonball far as character development and strength. Dude is controlling the heavens

    He's also the first villain Goku didn't beat or didn't suggest he could have beaten had he really tried.

    Not cell?

    No. Goku thought his fight with Cell could have gone either way, but he was confident that Gohan could beat him, so he conceded and let Gohan fight. When it looked like Gohan wouldn't come out of his shell Goku wanted to go fight seriously, but it was too late.

    Cell was holding back up until the mini cells were spawned. Cell regeneration would have gassed goku early in the fight.
  • TheRicanKing
    TheRicanKing Members Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sion wrote: »
    Zamasu isn't completely dead yet And 🤬 just being fickle SMMFH. Trunks killing Zamasu was legit. Like I said they could have had Vegeta best him fair and square and 🤬 would have found fault with that and hated it. Wait for the arc to finish before jumping to ridiculing got dayum....

    This was my first time ever criticizing Super like that. I'm not saying the show is 🤬 cakes. Nor am I here 🤬 weekly. I was enjoying the arc like most of us. But if you have to turn your brain off to completely enjoy this past episode, somethings wrong. It was a great fun episode action and animation wise.

    BUT if Vegeta killed Zamasu via Spirit Bomb a technique he didnt train for and learn, and acquire energy from a dead planet to 🤬 a Merged Zamasu, you damn right others are going to find some fault in that. And In case you didn't know by now this arc is practically done.
  • TheRicanKing
    TheRicanKing Members Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2016
    CJ wrote: »
    Cell still my fav villian tho

    With all the Saiyan 🤬 and Frieza getting uncomprehensibly powerful after some training stuff, you'd have to think Cell could've potentially been the strongest villian.