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The Official Dragonball Super Thread (All my DBZ fans come in here)

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  • LcnsdbyROYALTY
    LcnsdbyROYALTY Members Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jono wrote: »
    If I wanted to be petty about DBZ
    Gohan plays baseball...
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    Caught that fine

    But when the universe is on the line
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    @Jono you win my 🤬 !! Soon as I saw the first pic, I knew what it was, but I still spit out my beer scrolling down. Not disappointed in the least.
  • CashmoneyDux
    CashmoneyDux Members Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
    gemini86 wrote: »
    Damn I come back in here and 🤬 still complaining and talking about something they don't like. Let people like what they like. It's not that serious. Y'all spoke your opinions pages ago saying the show is dumb and it's bad writing. You don't want other people to watch it?

    Please rationally, non emotionally, explain why we can't critique this show. You keep using that tired argument "if you don't like it, don't watch it" but

    1) 🤬 are clearly watching the show, so they clearly enjoy it. No one here has said they hate the show, so stop using hyperbole to further your point.

    2) this thread had been here for years, and many of us grew up with DBZ so we know the ins and outs of the series, so consistently seeing inconsistencies that theyve had 20+ years to figure out is disappointing.

    3) explain to me how your defense of everything isn't reminiscent of what Trump supporters, YMCMB Stans, etc do.
  • CashmoneyDux
    CashmoneyDux Members Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beta wrote: »
    Zamasu may be the best villian in dragonball far as character development and strength. Dude is controlling the heavens

    He's also the first villain Goku didn't beat or didn't suggest he could have beaten had he really tried.

    Not cell?

    No. Goku thought his fight with Cell could have gone either way, but he was confident that Gohan could beat him, so he conceded and let Gohan fight. When it looked like Gohan wouldn't come out of his shell Goku wanted to go fight seriously, but it was too late.

    Cell was holding back up until the mini cells were spawned. Cell regeneration would have gassed goku early in the fight.

    Goku was holding back too. I'm not saying Goku would have won. I'm not saying that Goku knew he would have won. I'm saying that Goku knew he hadn't given his all to the fight yet, but he was convinced that Gohan was the answer. Remember, when Piccolo checked him for that line of thinking? He came to understand his mistake. He didn't say "Oh 🤬 , we're 🤬 because I can't beat Cell." He said "Krillin, give me a Sensu Bean, I'm going to take over."

    Moving the goal posts are we? Well imma 🤬 on what you just re clarified.

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  • gemini86
    gemini86 Members Posts: 5,180 ✭✭✭✭✭
    gemini86 wrote: »
    gemini86 wrote: »
    Damn I come back in here and 🤬 still complaining and talking about something they don't like. Let people like what they like. It's not that serious. Y'all spoke your opinions pages ago saying the show is dumb and it's bad writing. You don't want other people to watch it?

    Sheesh 🤬 , the 🤬 talking is on an episode by episode basis. And like you said, it's not that serious. A 🤬 can like the show but still admit its fault. Hell most of us are serious about the writing being 🤬 , but it's being brought up in jest. Laugh with us 🤬 , damn.

    Yall notice I'm not the only one thinking this 🤬 right? Week after week it's the same 🤬 . I ignored it for the most part but I see dudes be tagging me and trying to troll me. It's corny. I'm not saying dragon ball don't have its flaws but y'all just being annoying.

    Seriously 🤬 ? Only reason anyone does that is because you react to this 🤬 . You know it's funny cuz you hit LOL a few times on my posts. It ain't that damn serious. And honestly the 🤬 wouldn't be fun if everyone loved it like you did. The world would be a boring place if we all loved the same stuff. But since it bothers you so much I won't tag you anymore bruh
















































































    for a week.

    What kind of 🤬 🤬 is that. You tag me to try and troll because u like attention from me. Why u want to see the reaction of another man. You 🤬 af my 🤬
  • LcnsdbyROYALTY
    LcnsdbyROYALTY Members Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
    gemini86 wrote: »
    gemini86 wrote: »
    gemini86 wrote: »
    Damn I come back in here and 🤬 still complaining and talking about something they don't like. Let people like what they like. It's not that serious. Y'all spoke your opinions pages ago saying the show is dumb and it's bad writing. You don't want other people to watch it?

    Sheesh 🤬 , the 🤬 talking is on an episode by episode basis. And like you said, it's not that serious. A 🤬 can like the show but still admit its fault. Hell most of us are serious about the writing being 🤬 , but it's being brought up in jest. Laugh with us 🤬 , damn.

    Yall notice I'm not the only one thinking this 🤬 right? Week after week it's the same 🤬 . I ignored it for the most part but I see dudes be tagging me and trying to troll me. It's corny. I'm not saying dragon ball don't have its flaws but y'all just being annoying.

    Seriously 🤬 ? Only reason anyone does that is because you react to this 🤬 . You know it's funny cuz you hit LOL a few times on my posts. It ain't that damn serious. And honestly the 🤬 wouldn't be fun if everyone loved it like you did. The world would be a boring place if we all loved the same stuff. But since it bothers you so much I won't tag you anymore bruh
















































































    for a week.

    What kind of 🤬 🤬 is that. You tag me to try and troll because u like attention from me. Why u want to see the reaction of another man. You 🤬 af my 🤬

    Gotdamn... 🤬 you seriously tryna bring Gee's logic in here? Know what, 🤬 you my dude. The way you defending this bullshyt sounds like you don't even get 🤬 . 🤬 🤬 thinkin ass 🤬 . I bet you cosplay as Choutzu, bytch.
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you are going to have an intellectually property that continues for 10-30 years then you are going to have to retcon it happens all the time in comic books and tv series.... we all know this so shut the 🤬 up about it and besides this was not that bad of a retcon
  • LcnsdbyROYALTY
    LcnsdbyROYALTY Members Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zzombie wrote: »
    If you are going to have an intellectually property that continues for 10-30 years then you are going to have to retcon it happens all the time in comic books and tv series.... we all know this so shut the 🤬 up about it and besides this was not that bad of a retcon

    Which one though?
  • jono
    jono Members Posts: 30,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beta wrote: »
    Zamasu may be the best villian in dragonball far as character development and strength. Dude is controlling the heavens

    He's also the first villain Goku didn't beat or didn't suggest he could have beaten had he really tried.

    Not cell?

    No. Goku thought his fight with Cell could have gone either way, but he was confident that Gohan could beat him, so he conceded and let Gohan fight. When it looked like Gohan wouldn't come out of his shell Goku wanted to go fight seriously, but it was too late.

    Cell was holding back up until the mini cells were spawned. Cell regeneration would have gassed goku early in the fight.

    Goku was holding back too. I'm not saying Goku would have won. I'm not saying that Goku knew he would have won. I'm saying that Goku knew he hadn't given his all to the fight yet, but he was convinced that Gohan was the answer. Remember, when Piccolo checked him for that line of thinking? He came to understand his mistake. He didn't say "Oh 🤬 , we're 🤬 because I can't beat Cell." He said "Krillin, give me a Sensu Bean, I'm going to take over."

    Moving the goal posts are we? Well imma 🤬 on what you just re clarified.

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    Tien fighting power over 1,000,000?
    🤬 what?
  • LcnsdbyROYALTY
    LcnsdbyROYALTY Members Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Completely off topic but the live action FMA movie looks dope

    https://youtu.be/GvjOn0ucBec
  • gemini86
    gemini86 Members Posts: 5,180 ✭✭✭✭✭
    gemini86 wrote: »
    gemini86 wrote: »
    gemini86 wrote: »
    Damn I come back in here and 🤬 still complaining and talking about something they don't like. Let people like what they like. It's not that serious. Y'all spoke your opinions pages ago saying the show is dumb and it's bad writing. You don't want other people to watch it?

    Sheesh 🤬 , the 🤬 talking is on an episode by episode basis. And like you said, it's not that serious. A 🤬 can like the show but still admit its fault. Hell most of us are serious about the writing being 🤬 , but it's being brought up in jest. Laugh with us 🤬 , damn.

    Yall notice I'm not the only one thinking this 🤬 right? Week after week it's the same 🤬 . I ignored it for the most part but I see dudes be tagging me and trying to troll me. It's corny. I'm not saying dragon ball don't have its flaws but y'all just being annoying.

    Seriously 🤬 ? Only reason anyone does that is because you react to this 🤬 . You know it's funny cuz you hit LOL a few times on my posts. It ain't that damn serious. And honestly the 🤬 wouldn't be fun if everyone loved it like you did. The world would be a boring place if we all loved the same stuff. But since it bothers you so much I won't tag you anymore bruh
















































































    for a week.

    What kind of 🤬 🤬 is that. You tag me to try and troll because u like attention from me. Why u want to see the reaction of another man. You 🤬 af my 🤬

    Gotdamn... 🤬 you seriously tryna bring Gee's logic in here? Know what, 🤬 you my dude. The way you defending this bullshyt sounds like you don't even get 🤬 . 🤬 🤬 thinkin ass 🤬 . I bet you cosplay as Choutzu, bytch.

    Yea so u don't like the troll 🤬 do u. Knock it off lol
  • jono
    jono Members Posts: 30,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2016
    Completely off topic but the live action FMA movie looks dope

    https://youtu.be/GvjOn0ucBec

    Oh my 🤬 . I'm bout it.

    The odd thing is Ed and Al are white on purpose. Seeing a Japanese dude with such blonde hair was a little taken aback but it looks dope.
  • OmegaConflict
    OmegaConflict Members Posts: 39,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jono wrote: »
    Beta wrote: »
    Zamasu may be the best villian in dragonball far as character development and strength. Dude is controlling the heavens

    He's also the first villain Goku didn't beat or didn't suggest he could have beaten had he really tried.

    Not cell?

    No. Goku thought his fight with Cell could have gone either way, but he was confident that Gohan could beat him, so he conceded and let Gohan fight. When it looked like Gohan wouldn't come out of his shell Goku wanted to go fight seriously, but it was too late.

    Cell was holding back up until the mini cells were spawned. Cell regeneration would have gassed goku early in the fight.

    Goku was holding back too. I'm not saying Goku would have won. I'm not saying that Goku knew he would have won. I'm saying that Goku knew he hadn't given his all to the fight yet, but he was convinced that Gohan was the answer. Remember, when Piccolo checked him for that line of thinking? He came to understand his mistake. He didn't say "Oh 🤬 , we're 🤬 because I can't beat Cell." He said "Krillin, give me a Sensu Bean, I'm going to take over."

    Moving the goal posts are we? Well imma 🤬 on what you just re clarified.

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    Tien fighting power over 1,000,000?
    🤬 what?

    Power inconsistencies

    Ret con

    Laziness

    Non canon

    Bad writing
  • OmegaConflict
    OmegaConflict Members Posts: 39,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fam wtf does ass pool mean.
  • LcnsdbyROYALTY
    LcnsdbyROYALTY Members Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fam wtf does ass pool mean.

    🤬 do I gotta spell everything out for you?

    Asspull means they just pulling bullshyt out their ass

    They being Toeiyama
  • StoneColdMikey
    StoneColdMikey Members, Moderators Posts: 33,543 Regulator
    Damn at how weak Vegeta was compared to the Gohan and goku
  • qawshun
    qawshun Members Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Completely off topic but the live action FMA movie looks dope

    https://youtu.be/GvjOn0ucBec

    Yeah that 🤬 look fire
  • qawshun
    qawshun Members Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jono wrote: »
    Completely off topic but the live action FMA movie looks dope

    https://youtu.be/GvjOn0ucBec

    Oh my 🤬 . I'm bout it.

    The odd thing is Ed and Al are white on purpose. Seeing a Japanese dude with such blonde hair was a little taken aback but it looks dope.

    🤬 that everybody white, I'm glad they switched it up
  • OmegaConflict
    OmegaConflict Members Posts: 39,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fam wtf does ass pool mean.

    🤬 do I gotta spell everything out for you?

    Asspull means they just pulling bullshyt out their ass

    They being Toeiyama

    Chill out I'm tryna learn this 🤬
  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beta wrote: »
    Zamasu may be the best villian in dragonball far as character development and strength. Dude is controlling the heavens

    He's also the first villain Goku didn't beat or didn't suggest he could have beaten had he really tried.

    Not cell?

    No. Goku thought his fight with Cell could have gone either way, but he was confident that Gohan could beat him, so he conceded and let Gohan fight. When it looked like Gohan wouldn't come out of his shell Goku wanted to go fight seriously, but it was too late.

    Cell was holding back up until the mini cells were spawned. Cell regeneration would have gassed goku early in the fight.

    Goku was holding back too. I'm not saying Goku would have won. I'm not saying that Goku knew he would have won. I'm saying that Goku knew he hadn't given his all to the fight yet, but he was convinced that Gohan was the answer. Remember, when Piccolo checked him for that line of thinking? He came to understand his mistake. He didn't say "Oh 🤬 , we're 🤬 because I can't beat Cell." He said "Krillin, give me a Sensu Bean, I'm going to take over."

    Moving the goal posts are we? Well imma 🤬 on what you just re clarified.

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    This doesn't 🤬 on anything and shows you don't understand what I was saying. I never made the claim that Goku could beat Cell or that he was more powerful than Cell, so I'm not sure what you posting a bunch of power levels that were even available to the characters means. And what goal posts am I moving. My original statement was
    He's also the first villain Goku didn't beat or didn't suggest he could have beaten had he really tried.

    Zamasu just flat out outclassed Goku solo. There was no "I can take Sensu Bean and get back out there." He believed their only way of winning was fusing with Vegeta. With Cell, Goku believed he could put up a fight, but that Gohan was the better option. Yes, we all know Goku couldn't have won. Why not? Because even if he managed to somehow take out Perfect Cell, if he didn't completely annihilate Cell, he would have to deal with Super Perfect Cell and that would be too much. But Goku didn't know that at the time just like Goku didn't know that Cell's power level was 500 million points higher than his.
  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2016
    Sion wrote: »
    Sion wrote: »
    Beta wrote: »
    Zamasu may be the best villian in dragonball far as character development and strength. Dude is controlling the heavens

    He's also the first villain Goku didn't beat or didn't suggest he could have beaten had he really tried.

    Not cell?

    No. Goku thought his fight with Cell could have gone either way, but he was confident that Gohan could beat him, so he conceded and let Gohan fight. When it looked like Gohan wouldn't come out of his shell Goku wanted to go fight seriously, but it was too late.

    Not sure which anime you were watching but Goku couldn't even beat a Cell Jr. It wouldn't have gone either way, Cell was far more powerful than Goku, they needed an SSJ2 to defeat him. Goku bet it all on his son.

    He was weakened at that point. Remember, he didn't take a sensu bean after his skirmish with Cell. How could you possibly believe that Goku was weaker than a Cell Jr. when we saw Goku get the better of Cell. Cell was not stronger or a better fighter than Goku. He was just able to regenerate.

    -_-*

    https://youtu.be/XfSCvgisGIs

    ^^^ clearly states that Cell is stronger than him and that Gohan is much stronger than he is and more worthy to fight Cell.

    If Goku was stronger than Cell he would have beaten him himself SMMFH. There wouldn't have been a point to send Gohan because Goku would have just eaten the senzu bean instead of giving it to Cell. Which tells me he knew it wouldn't have made a difference if he did because Cell was stronger.

    So Goku lost to Vegeta pre Oozaru right? And Goku didn't beat Freiza did he? Because both of them were stronger than Goku initially during their fights. Goku at some point overcame those power barriers. Ya'll 🤬 acting like you don't understand how Shonen anime works. The hero almost always looks weaker at the outside of the fight, but still pulls out the win due to the standard plot devices.

    Also, that was a filler speech. This is all he said in the manga

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    Then after Picollo sets Goku straight, what happens?

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    Goku clearly still though he could compete. With Zamasu, he flat out said he couldn't.
  • OmegaConflict
    OmegaConflict Members Posts: 39,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The manga is late..
  • LcnsdbyROYALTY
    LcnsdbyROYALTY Members Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fam wtf does ass pool mean.

    🤬 do I gotta spell everything out for you?

    Asspull means they just pulling bullshyt out their ass

    They being Toeiyama

    Chill out I'm tryna learn this 🤬

    Just 🤬 with you bruh
  • Beta
    Beta Members Posts: 65,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fam wtf does ass pool mean.

    🤬 do I gotta spell everything out for you?

    Asspull means they just pulling bullshyt out their ass

    They being Toeiyama

    Chill out I'm tryna learn this 🤬

    Just 🤬 with you bruh

    Hes 🤬 with you too lol
  • CashmoneyDux
    CashmoneyDux Members Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2016
    Beta wrote: »
    Zamasu may be the best villian in dragonball far as character development and strength. Dude is controlling the heavens

    He's also the first villain Goku didn't beat or didn't suggest he could have beaten had he really tried.

    Not cell?

    No. Goku thought his fight with Cell could have gone either way, but he was confident that Gohan could beat him, so he conceded and let Gohan fight. When it looked like Gohan wouldn't come out of his shell Goku wanted to go fight seriously, but it was too late.

    Cell was holding back up until the mini cells were spawned. Cell regeneration would have gassed goku early in the fight.

    Goku was holding back too. I'm not saying Goku would have won. I'm not saying that Goku knew he would have won. I'm saying that Goku knew he hadn't given his all to the fight yet, but he was convinced that Gohan was the answer. Remember, when Piccolo checked him for that line of thinking? He came to understand his mistake. He didn't say "Oh 🤬 , we're 🤬 because I can't beat Cell." He said "Krillin, give me a Sensu Bean, I'm going to take over."

    Moving the goal posts are we? Well imma 🤬 on what you just re clarified.

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    This doesn't 🤬 on anything and shows you don't understand what I was saying. I never made the claim that Goku could beat Cell or that he was more powerful than Cell, so I'm not sure what you posting a bunch of power levels that were even available to the characters means. And what goal posts am I moving. My original statement was
    He's also the first villain Goku didn't beat or didn't suggest he could have beaten had he really tried.

    Zamasu just flat out outclassed Goku solo. There was no "I can take Sensu Bean and get back out there." He believed their only way of winning was fusing with Vegeta. With Cell, Goku believed he could put up a fight, but that Gohan was the better option. Yes, we all know Goku couldn't have won. Why not? Because even if he managed to somehow take out Perfect Cell, if he didn't completely annihilate Cell, he would have to deal with Super Perfect Cell and that would be too much. But Goku didn't know that at the time just like Goku didn't know that Cell's power level was 500 million points higher than his.

    "Goku was holding back too...No. Goku thought his fight with Cell could have gone either way, " is EXACTLY what you said, and it couldn't which is why posted official power levels where it gives you confirmation that he WASN'T HOLDING BACK and CELL WAS STRONGER REGARDLESS
  • LcnsdbyROYALTY
    LcnsdbyROYALTY Members Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beta wrote: »
    Fam wtf does ass pool mean.

    🤬 do I gotta spell everything out for you?

    Asspull means they just pulling bullshyt out their ass

    They being Toeiyama

    Chill out I'm tryna learn this 🤬

    Just 🤬 with you bruh

    Hes 🤬 with you too lol

    I know.