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Boy shoots Neo-🤬 father because 'he thought he was doing the right thing'

Young_ChitlinYoung_Chitlin YCN Chief/FCC Member/#RedVelvetSquad Member/IC Task Force GeneralASUville, PhoenixMembers Posts: 23,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
(AP Reporter)- A boy who, aged ten, shot dead his neo-🤬 father as he slept should not be jailed as he thought it was 'the right thing to do', his lawyers have argued.

Prosecutors want Joseph Hall, now 12, jailed for murder, citing a history of violent behaviour including choking a teacher with a telephone cord. He would become one of the youngest people in a U.S. correctional facility. But the boy's attorney says that he cannot be held responsible as he believed he was doing 'the right thing' by executing his 32-year-old father Jeff in Riverside County, California.

Just ten when he was arrested for the killing in May last year, the small, blonde child told police he pulled the gun from a closet and killed Jeff Hall - an unemployed regional leader of the National Socialist Movement who headed rallies at a synagogue. 'In reality, sometimes kids - just like all of us - do things because they want to, and he decided, as he put it, it was time to end the father-son thing,' said Michael Soccio, chief deputy district attorney.

'This child started at five years old being expelled from school for violence. His violence started way before his dad ever joined any 🤬 party.'

The boy's public defender, Matthew Hardy, told the New York Times his client has neurological and psychological problems and was exposed to neo-🤬 'conditioning' at home. 'He's been conditioned to violence,' Hardy told the newspaper. 'You have to ask yourself: Did this kid really know that this act was wrong based on all those things?'
Mr Hall, who had 🤬 tattoos on his head, took Joseph to rallies where they performed 🤬 salutes together. They also went on night-time 'patrols' by the Mexican border wearing night-vision goggles to help them 'detain illegal immigrants'.

Opening statements are expected to begin today in the two-week trial of the boy, who is not being charged as an adult. Hall, who said he believed in a white breakaway nation, ran for a seat on the local water board in 2010 in a move that disturbed many residents in the recession-battered suburbs southeast of Los Angeles. The day before his death, he held a meeting of the neo-🤬 group at his home.


  • Young_ChitlinYoung_Chitlin YCN Chief/FCC Member/#RedVelvetSquad Member/IC Task Force General ASUville, PhoenixMembers Posts: 23,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hall had previously taken the boy - his eldest of five children - on a U.S.-Mexico border patrol trip and showed him how to use a gun, according to papers filed by police against the boy's stepmother alleging child endangerment and criminal storage of a gun. Last year, the boy told investigators he went downstairs and shot his father before returning upstairs and hiding the gun under his bed, according to court documents.

    He told authorities he thought his father was going to leave his stepmother, and he didn't want the family to split up, Soccio said. The boy's stepmother told authorities that Hall had hit, kicked and yelled at his son for being too loud or getting in the way.

    Hall and the boy's biological mother had previously slugged through a divorce and custody dispute in which each had accused the other of child abuse. Kathleen M. Heide, a professor at the University of South Florida in Tampa who wrote Why Kids 🤬 Parents said 16 cases of children aged ten and under killing their parents were documented between 1996 and 2007.

    Heide also said parenting and home life would undoubtedly play a role in the case. 'It would be inaccurate to say who the child's parents are is superfluous,' she said. 'That is going to have an effect on how the child grows up, on the values that child learns, on problem solving abilities, so all of that is relevant.'

    If a judge finds the boy murdered Hall, he could be held in state custody until he is 23 years old, said Bill Sessa, spokesman for California's Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation. The state currently houses fewer than 900 juveniles. 'We don't have anybody that young,' Sessa said. 'We have had 12-year-olds in the past, but it's rare.'
  • blackjack2012blackjack2012 Members Posts: 4,323 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Keep that 🤬 in jail
  • SleepwalkingInJapanSleepwalkingInJapan Members Posts: 11,866 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hopefully there will be copycats
  • VIBEVIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He should be freed, he did do the right thing.
  • NeighborhoodNomad. NeighborhoodNomad. Members Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why is making the world a better place considered criminal?
  • Lurker6Lurker6 Members Posts: 4,508 ✭✭✭✭✭
    heres the link to the 60 min piece on this they did a while back
  • idoitforhiphop10idoitforhiphop10 Members Posts: 5,973 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2012
    Props to that young man.
  • cobblandcobbland "Shorty": Belly (1998) Chicago...Members Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lurker6 wrote: »
    heres the link to the 60 min piece on this they did a while back

  • texasdaking88texasdaking88 Members Posts: 6,137 ✭✭✭✭✭
    *slow Hand clap*
  • Gold_CertificateGold_Certificate Members Posts: 13,228 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a traitor.
  • konceptjoneskonceptjones Old School Playa Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 13,139 ✭✭✭✭✭

    we need to put money on that kids books.
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