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Anybody listens to Umar Johnson

UndergroundraplegendUndergroundraplegend Members Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 2013 in R & R (Religion and Race)
what ya'll thoughts on the brotha




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  • poindexter2poindexter2 Members Posts: 4,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    on the surface his message is good, but IMO hes just another race 🤬 like sharpton and jesse may jackson
  • UndergroundraplegendUndergroundraplegend Members Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2013
    on the surface his message is good, but IMO hes just another race 🤬 like sharpton and jesse may jackson

    nah guy isnt like that brotha hes real good his whole point is for Blacks to get there 🤬 together he even talks of what your saying of Black leaders


  • UndergroundraplegendUndergroundraplegend Members Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Seriously my thread still at 11 views
  • zombiezombie Members Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He IS one of the most intelligent blackmen in public life i agree with most of what he says, I just wish he could get more public exposure.
  • MuhannadMuhannad Members Posts: 3,007 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I listen to him regularly and I agree with 70% of what he's saying. What he's saying applies to blacks worldwide. the only thing I don't agree with is his stance on religion and islam in particular. Other then that he's always on point. Apart from being an intelligent man he's great orator as well. He really knows how to get his point across...

  • longmeatlongmeat Members Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭
    Muhannad X wrote: »
    I listen to him regularly and I agree with 70% of what he's saying. What he's saying applies to blacks worldwide. the only thing I don't agree with is his stance on religion and islam in particular. Other then that he's always on point. Apart from being an intelligent man he's great orator as well. He really knows how to get his point across...


    From the video's I've seen of him, he doesn't really talk much about religion outside of the fact religion is used as a crutch by a lot of black people. He constantly takes Marcus Garvey's stance and says your religion is between you and your 🤬 , African people has bigger issues other than who's 🤬 is right.
  • Arya TsaddiqArya Tsaddiq Shalawam The Daughter of BabylonMembers Posts: 15,334 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I c/s this thread. Umar is an intelligent dude. I agree with alot of what he says. U can't try to convert a man from what he truley believes in. But I can guarantee u religion was a part of the reason he is who he is today. Not religion in a whole but that fact that he decided to seek the most high that woke him up to the plight of the black race.

    It may not have but o can.say from a personal experience that mu walk with 🤬 caused me to look at the world in a different way. Which in turn caused me to research and helped me to develop a zeal for the advancement of blacks as a whole.
  • UndergroundraplegendUndergroundraplegend Members Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I c/s this thread. Umar is an intelligent dude. I agree with alot of what he says. U can't try to convert a man from what he truley believes in. But I can guarantee u religion was a part of the reason he is who he is today. Not religion in a whole but that fact that he decided to seek the most high that woke him up to the plight of the black race.

    It may not have but o can.say from a personal experience that mu walk with 🤬 caused me to look at the world in a different way. Which in turn caused me to research and helped me to develop a zeal for the advancement of blacks as a whole.

    brotha isgreat and really tells you what you should do as a Black person.
  • SplackavelliSplackavelli I'll getchu bitch!!! Somewhere drunk off my ass.Members Posts: 18,806 ✭✭✭✭✭
    one thing I noticed is people like him brother polite or tehuti or whatever his name is dislike or hate on each other on youtube a lot.
  • MuhannadMuhannad Members Posts: 3,007 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2013
    @longmeat the only thing I didn't agree with is when I heard him say he's a black man first and a muslim later. If you're a muslim you know religion comes before anything else. I heard him say we shouldn't emphasize the importance of the (fos7a) Arabic language, but as a muslim he should know better. Other than that I agree with almost everything he says. I'm listening to a lecture of him as we speak...
  • zombiezombie Members Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Muhannad X wrote: »
    @longmeat the only thing I didn't agree with is when I heard him say he's a black man first and a muslim later. If you're a muslim you know religion comes before anything else. I heard him say we should emphasize the importance of the (fos7a) Arabic language, but as a muslim he should know better. Other than that I agree with almost everything he says. I'm listening to a lecture of him as we speak...

    Umar is 100 % right when it comes to religion,. The black slaves in Sudan and Mauritania and Sudan are slaves. You cannot place your non-black Muslim brothers above your black Christian brothers or even idol worshipers. If you do then you are useless to our fight. Islam is used as nothing more than Arab imperlism.
  • zombiezombie Members Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I mean the black slaves are Muslims.
  • MuhannadMuhannad Members Posts: 3,007 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2013
    You're confusing Arab nationalism or racism with islam while the two have nothing to do with eachother. Arabs only make up about 30% of the muslim population anyway.
  • MuhannadMuhannad Members Posts: 3,007 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just found out this brother is just 37 year old. It says so on his site. He's a great role model.

  • Big JamesBig James Members Posts: 345 ✭✭✭✭
    Damn, I gotta get my 🤬 together.
  • BelovedAfeniBelovedAfeni The Pimp Slap App 5150 NationMembers Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭✭✭
    His view on the school system are fresh and coming from someone who sees it from the top
    He also doesnt let his education overshadow the spirit of his message
    He is the book of Revealations
    To the few that truly understand
  • G.AvantG.Avant The Ville where we chillMembers, Writer Posts: 4,360 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He's decent , but I think brother polight is top dog in the conscious community right now.
  • UndergroundraplegendUndergroundraplegend Members Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @thesiah91

    post a video of his.
  • G.AvantG.Avant The Ville where we chillMembers, Writer Posts: 4,360 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @thesiah91

    post a video of his.

    @Undergroundraplegend

    this is from his debate with Seti

    this is Polight's wives and children
  • zombiezombie Members Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i really don't consider Dr umar to be part of the so called conscious community.
  • UndergroundraplegendUndergroundraplegend Members Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @zombie why not
  • young_reezyyoung_reezy Members Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
    it aint no conscious community, you got so many different schools of thought there is no one-ness besides us being black, then you got a debate on that, (i'm not black i'm a moor, i'm kemetian,i'm asiatic, i'm african, etc...)
    I respect a lot of the positive stuff that the brothas are doing.

    big shout out to sara suten seti,brotha polight,king noble,saa neter,natural tahuti,umar johnson,phil valentine, and so many more. Keep doing the work!
  • zombiezombie Members Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @zombie why not

    Because the philosophy that umar seems to be trying to modernize is good old fashioned pan-africanism of the garveyite type.

    The so called conscious community revolves around ancient history and spiritual systems it is mostly composed groups who claim to know something, the problem is that what they claim to know is mostly made up, implausible, or impossible to verify. These groups include the moorish science temple, the various hebrew israelite groups definitely the nuwabians and to a lesser extent the kemetians.
  • UndergroundraplegendUndergroundraplegend Members Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zombie wrote: »
    @zombie why not

    Because the philosophy that umar seems to be trying to modernize is good old fashioned pan-africanism of the garveyite type.

    The so called conscious community revolves around ancient history and spiritual systems it is mostly composed groups who claim to know something, the problem is that what they claim to know is mostly made up, implausible, or impossible to verify. These groups include the moorish science temple, the various hebrew israelite groups definitely the nuwabians and to a lesser extent the kemetians.

    @zombie


    Actually its more then just concious community doin that it can range from Pan africanist Thinking(Umar)
    to what you said not just that but I see what your saying
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