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Neogaf: XBox One OS online Azure a mess (RUMOR)

BlackxChildBlackxChild Members Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited October 2013 in IllGaming
http://doddscientifics.com/2013/10/28/xbox-one-os-and-xbox-live-issues-bouncing-about-as-we-approach-launch/

Seems like it'll be months before the issue is fixed.

By the way there's already been confirmations of PS4 games coming in 1080p while other multiplatform games are 720p... There's also this...
Basically, tons of reviewers/journalists are on Facebook/Twitter making hints at something very damaging. Microsoft isn't allowing any reviewers to make PS4 vs. Xbox One comparisons, nor are they handing out Xbone versions of games for reviews. Xbox One reviews are embargo'd until Noon on launch day.
From what I've read on Twitter, NeoGAF and other sources, basically, the console's ESRAM is this generation's Cell CPU. It makes games harder to develop for, which is resulting in a lot of multiplatform games being in lower resolutions, slower frame rates, and lower textures.

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1p95cj/apparently_microsoft_has_a_damaging_x1_secret/
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  • earth two supermanearth two superman ladies please dont fight. E2S is here all night! Members Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭✭
    to be fair, reddits r/gaming really dislikes the xbone.

  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it's fair to say both systems are being rushed out. I mean the PS4 has basically no online functionality out of the box. There is a Day 1 update.
  • BlackxChildBlackxChild Members Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it's fair to say both systems are being rushed out. I mean the PS4 has basically no online functionality out of the box. There is a Day 1 update.
    There's updates to everything that has online functionality... We haven't heard these kind of issues with PS4. The problem with Xbox 1 is it's using a cloud service that a lot of devs don't want to use and it doesn't function properly plus the console is just not as good .
  • BlackxChildBlackxChild Members Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
    to be fair, reddits r/gaming really dislikes the xbone.

    One is neogaf the other is redditt.
  • CraigMakaveliCraigMakaveli Members Posts: 656 ✭✭✭✭
    Why didn't consoles have x86 before this generation's PS4. Would have thought xbox og would of had it. Why didn't Microsoft make a home computer that played xbox and pc games og xbox times ?
  • BlackxChildBlackxChild Members Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2357886-9910442842-dNMTw.png it's pretty much confirmed xbox one is going to be 🤬 for awhile.
  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it's fair to say both systems are being rushed out. I mean the PS4 has basically no online functionality out of the box. There is a Day 1 update.
    There's updates to everything that has online functionality... We haven't heard these kind of issues with PS4. The problem with Xbox 1 is it's using a cloud service that a lot of devs don't want to use and it doesn't function properly plus the console is just not as good .

    I'm not suggesting that the PS4 is in the same position as the XB1, but it's still being rushed. It's not a matter of the PS4 needing a simple update when you buy it. Everything associated with the online experience has to be patched in the first day. You pretty much can't do anything online on the PS4 until you update it.
  • BlackxChildBlackxChild Members Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it's fair to say both systems are being rushed out. I mean the PS4 has basically no online functionality out of the box. There is a Day 1 update.
    There's updates to everything that has online functionality... We haven't heard these kind of issues with PS4. The problem with Xbox 1 is it's using a cloud service that a lot of devs don't want to use and it doesn't function properly plus the console is just not as good .

    I'm not suggesting that the PS4 is in the same position as the XB1, but it's still being rushed. It's not a matter of the PS4 needing a simple update when you buy it. Everything associated with the online experience has to be patched in the first day. You pretty much can't do anything online on the PS4 until you update it.
    Really you can't do anything on the ps3 if you haven't updated it... The main problem I see is a bunch of people trying to do that update at the same time.
  • Karl.Karl. Members Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2357886-9910442842-dNMTw.png it's pretty much confirmed xbox one is going to be 🤬 for awhile.

    This Pakistani dude is your source?
  • John_BlaziniJohn_Blazini When it comes to half the niggas on the IC's kids...I am the father Members Posts: 14,837 ✭✭✭✭✭
    haha do those 🤬 even have real internet?
  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it's fair to say both systems are being rushed out. I mean the PS4 has basically no online functionality out of the box. There is a Day 1 update.
    There's updates to everything that has online functionality... We haven't heard these kind of issues with PS4. The problem with Xbox 1 is it's using a cloud service that a lot of devs don't want to use and it doesn't function properly plus the console is just not as good .

    I'm not suggesting that the PS4 is in the same position as the XB1, but it's still being rushed. It's not a matter of the PS4 needing a simple update when you buy it. Everything associated with the online experience has to be patched in the first day. You pretty much can't do anything online on the PS4 until you update it.
    Really you can't do anything on the ps3 if you haven't updated it... The main problem I see is a bunch of people trying to do that update at the same time.

    Pretty much. Here are the update details:
    We wanted to shed some light on system software update version 1.50 for PS4, which will launch simultaneously with the system’s official North American launch on November 15th, 2013. By updating to system software version 1.50, you’ll be able to experience a variety of new features in addition to the basic functions of PS4.
    The system software update 1.50 is approximately 300 MB, and will include the following features:
    Remote Play
    Users will be able to access PS4 titles displayed on their living room TVs and play them on a PS Vita system over Wi-Fi networks by using PS4 Link (Depending on network environment or titles, remote play performance may vary outside of the home). We anticipate that most PS4 titles will be playable on the PS Vita system through Remote Play. The latest PS Vita system software version, to be released soon, will be required to use PS4 Link.

    Second Screen
    Users can use the PS4 Link application for the PS Vita system, and PlayStation App for iPhone, iPad, and Android-based smartphones and tablets, to use these devices as second screens in supported titles. PlayStation App has the ability to enable users to interact with games with their mobiles devices. For example on The Playroom, a title pre-installed in all PS4 systems that requires PlayStation Camera, users can draw pictures on their mobile device screens and flick them towards the TV. The images then appear as a 3D object within the game.

    Record, take screenshots, and upload gameplay effortlessly
    The PS4 system provides dedicated, “always on” video encoding systems that enables seamless uploading of gameplay. Users can share their epic triumphs by simply hitting the Share button on DualShock 4, take screenshots or scan through the last 15 minutes of gameplay, tag it and return to the game—the video uploads as the user plays. At the PS4 system’s launch in North America, users will be able to share their images and videos with friends on Facebook and screenshots with followers on Twitter, though users will need to sign up for individual accounts to use Facebook and Twitter.

    Broadcast and spectate gameplay
    The PS4 system also enhances social spectating by enabling users to broadcast their gameplay in real-time to game fans around the globe, using Ustream and Twitch live internet streaming services (users will need to sign up for individual accounts to use Ustream and Twitch). There are two ways for users to view live broadcasts. First, the Live from PlayStation application on PS4 aggregates streams from all PlayStation users. Second, users can spectate friends’ PS4 gameplay from PCs, and applications such as Ustream, Twitch, and browsers, which are installed on their mobile devices. These applications can be easily started up via PlayStation App, and users can also use these applications to post comments to gameplay broadcasts. Furthermore, users with PlayStation Camera can stream camera images and microphone sounds along with their live gameplay broadcast.

    Play as you download
    This feature enables users to play supported digital titles as they are being downloaded. The time it takes to begin playing will vary depending on game data size and network environments, and not all titles will support this feature When a game is purchased, users can start playing after PS4 downloads a portion of the data, while the rest of the game is downloaded in the background during actual gameplay. Games may be downloaded in stand-by mode.

    Multi log-in
    A maximum of four users can log-in to a single PS4 system simultaneously. These players can use their own save data to play games, and also earn trophies on their own Sony Entertainment Network accounts even when playing a multiplayer game together on a single PS4 system.

    Party (Voice chat)
    By using the Mono Headset bundled with the PS4 system, users will be able to chat with up to eight friends enjoying different applications or games. Furthermore, users can use Party to chat between PS4 and PS Vita systems.

    Face recognition and voice commands
    Users with PlayStation Camera will be able to register their 🤬 image onto their PS4 system, and login to their system using 🤬 recognition instead of DualShock 4. Furthermore, users can use either the microphone of the Mono Head set connected to DualShock 4, or PlayStation Camera to navigate through the PS4 home screen (PlayStation Dynamic Menu) with voice commands to start up games and shutdown the system, among other features; please refer to PS4’s online manual for recognizable voice commands.

    Background music player
    Users can enjoy gameplay while listening to music in the background with Music Unlimited, a cloud-based digital music service. Users can also voice chat with friends while listening to music. Learn more about Music Unlimited here.

    Online Multiplayer
    PlayStation Plus members will be able to play PS4 titles online with other players via the network. PS Plus makes it easy for members to join available online multiplayer matches in a variety of ways, including the ability to easily join a game from a live stream broadcast or Party voice chats.

    Blu-ray Disc and DVD player
    Users can enjoy not only gaming on their PS4 system, but also Blu-ray and DVD video contents. When using for the first time, users must connect to the internet to activate this feature.

    http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/25/ps4-system-software-update-1-50-details/

    Pretty much all the PS4 can do right out of the box is play single player modes of games offline.
  • KillaChamKillaCham M0D SQUAD™ Members, Moderators Posts: 11,415 Regulator
    I don't understand what the problem is with having to update. If you don't have the internet to do the update, you're not gonna need the features it has anyway.
  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    KillaCham wrote: »
    I don't understand what the problem is with having to update. If you don't have the internet to do the update, you're not gonna need the features it has anyway.

    It's not that updating is a problem. It's just that the fact that it has to be updated after release instead of already being loaded might be indicative of the fact that they may not have finished all the features yet.
  • major painmajor pain Members Posts: 10,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2013
    KillaCham wrote: »
    I don't understand what the problem is with having to update. If you don't have the internet to do the update, you're not gonna need the features it has anyway.

    It's not that updating is a problem. It's just that the fact that it has to be updated after release instead of already being loaded might be indicative of the fact that they may not have finished all the features yet.

    Updates release for systems that connect to servers or servers themselves all the time. I hear what you're saying, but an immediate update could be a number of things. Consider the idea that there is no way Sony could stress test PSN using PS4s before launch. An update could very well be the saving grace to not crash their network. This is just an example.. and not gospel before some 🤬 that knows nothing about servers says otherwise.
  • Karl.Karl. Members Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A first day update doesn't concern me at all.
  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah, I don't have a problem with the update. I'm just pointing out that they are patching in a lot of stuff via a software update.
  • BlackxChildBlackxChild Members Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
    KillaCham wrote: »
    I don't understand what the problem is with having to update. If you don't have the internet to do the update, you're not gonna need the features it has anyway.

    It's not that updating is a problem. It's just that the fact that it has to be updated after release instead of already being loaded might be indicative of the fact that they may not have finished all the features yet.

    You mean like every single 🤬 video game that's come out in the last year... This is serious reaching.
  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What? You're comparing a video game update (that not all of them have contrary to what you're claiming). We're not talking about a couple hundred KB update that does something minor. We're talking about them patching in all of the system's online functionality after the release.

    Again, it's not the fact that there is a Day 1 update that is the issue. As I've said before, the fact that this stuff isn't coming pre-loaded on the system suggests that it is all coming down to the wire. Hell, for all we know, it still isn't finished since reports are that the display units sent to stores don't have that functionality either.
  • major painmajor pain Members Posts: 10,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What? You're comparing a video game update (that not all of them have contrary to what you're claiming). We're not talking about a couple hundred KB update that does something minor. We're talking about them patching in all of the system's online functionality after the release.

    Again, it's not the fact that there is a Day 1 update that is the issue. As I've said before, the fact that this stuff isn't coming pre-loaded on the system suggests that it is all coming down to the wire. Hell, for all we know, it still isn't finished since reports are that the display units sent to stores don't have that functionality either.

    breh... development on these systems is on-going. the first wave of units has been off the assembly line for months. the way software is engineered and developed, its not a stretch to think some major findings have occurred since the first production models and nov. 15.

    what is concerning is the size of the update and how many people will be trying to get it at once.
  • John_BlaziniJohn_Blazini When it comes to half the niggas on the IC's kids...I am the father Members Posts: 14,837 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Apparently some of yall are new to technology lol this 🤬 happens ... i dont expect either system to be poppin out the gate honestly
  • kanggoodiekanggoodie Members Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm truly convinced black child is KOA
  • Karl.Karl. Members Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    kanggoodie wrote: »
    I'm truly convinced black child is KOA

    He's slightly dumber and more ignorant than KOA.
  • joshuaboyjoshuaboy Members Posts: 10,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Karl. wrote: »
    kanggoodie wrote: »
    I'm truly convinced black child is KOA

    He's slightly dumber and more ignorant than KOA.



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  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    major pain wrote: »
    What? You're comparing a video game update (that not all of them have contrary to what you're claiming). We're not talking about a couple hundred KB update that does something minor. We're talking about them patching in all of the system's online functionality after the release.

    Again, it's not the fact that there is a Day 1 update that is the issue. As I've said before, the fact that this stuff isn't coming pre-loaded on the system suggests that it is all coming down to the wire. Hell, for all we know, it still isn't finished since reports are that the display units sent to stores don't have that functionality either.

    breh... development on these systems is on-going. the first wave of units has been off the assembly line for months. the way software is engineered and developed, its not a stretch to think some major findings have occurred since the first production models and nov. 15.

    what is concerning is the size of the update and how many people will be trying to get it at once.

    I don't think you understand what I'm saying. The first wave of units were assembled a long time ago. That's fine. They may have tweaked the software a little and some of those tweaks will need to be patched in on the first day. If that was the case, that would be fine too. However, that's not the case. What they are doing is putting the system out there, and then patching in the bulk of the software functionality of the console in a day 1 update.

    There is absolutely no reason to do something like that unless there was still a ton of work to be done well after you started producing and packaging the systems. In other words all that 🤬 they were showing in the UI trailer and other videos may not even function correctly yet. If they really do have a significant amount of work left on that software and left it off the systems on purpose in order to extend their deadline til the console release date, that is something to worry about.
  • focusfocus The #1 Nigga, I Don't Need No Hype. Members Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Meanwhile, back in the real world...

    Rob aka tarconus ‏@rjtherocker 13h
    @albertpenello man look at that so unfinished ui, #sonygaf wrong again

    Albert Penello @albertpenello
    @rjtherocker This is an old XDK build. Not up to date. Game doesn't get squeezed like that and it's super slow. Current builds WAY faster.

    Rob aka tarconus ‏@rjtherocker 12h
    @albertpenello yeah, but the way the doomer and gloomers sounded it wouldn't even boot up. Glad to be playing on day one anyway #nov22

    Albert Penello ‏@albertpenello 12h
    @rjtherocker Snap works awesome, no worries.

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