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Supreme Court rules 6-2. States can ban -Affirmative Action-. The Freedom Ride is over negros.

Jabu_RuleJabu_Rule Members Posts: 5,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited April 2014 in The Social Lounge
nytimes.com/2014/04/23/us/supreme-court-michigan-affirmative-action-ban.html?_r=0
The Supreme Court on Tuesday upheld a Michigan constitutional amendment that bans affirmative action in admissions to the state’s public universities, in a fractured decision that revealed deep divisions among the justices over what role the government should play in protecting racial and ethnic minorities.

The 6-to-2 ruling effectively endorsed similar measures in seven other states and may encourage additional measures banning the use of race in admissions. States that forbid affirmative action in admissions decisions, like Texas, Florida and California, as well as Michigan, have seen a significant drop in the enrollment of black and Hispanic students in their most selective colleges and universities.

In five opinions spanning more than 100 pages, the justices set out starkly conflicting views. The justices in the majority, with varying degrees of vehemence, said that policies affecting minorities that do not involve intentional discrimination should ordinarily be decided at the ballot box rather than in the courtroom.

But Justice Sonia Sotomayor, in the longest and most significant dissent of her career, said the Constitution required special vigilance in light of the history of slavery, Jim Crow and “recent examples of discriminatory changes to state voting laws.”

Justice Anthony M. Kennedy’s controlling opinion for three justices took pains to say that the decision was a modest one.

“This case is not about how the debate about racial preferences should be resolved,” he wrote, in an opinion joined by Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. “It is about who may resolve it. There is no authority in the Constitution of the United States or in this court’s precedents for the judiciary to set aside Michigan laws that commit this policy determination to the voters.
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  • Arya TsaddiqArya Tsaddiq Shalawam The Daughter of BabylonMembers Posts: 15,334 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not suprised...
  • Billy_PonchoBilly_Poncho Vox Populi Members Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wonder if they'll discount financial hardship as well
  • Ajackson17Ajackson17 On the shoulders of Giants and Elders in history UniverseMembers Posts: 22,501 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Welp the roosters come home to roost.
  • _Goldie__Goldie_ ablackweb.com Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 30,349 Regulator
    FuriousOne wrote: »
    States that forbid affirmative action in admissions decisions, like Texas, Florida and California, as well as Michigan, have seen a significant drop in the enrollment of black and Hispanic students in their most selective colleges and universities.

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    smh-o.gif
    The sad 🤬 is ,there's just as many blacks as there is whites who want to do away with affirmative action.
  • jonojono Right fist = power, left fist = unity Members Posts: 30,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Right on the heels of that black girl being denied at U of M. Irony? Coincidence?
  • Jabu_RuleJabu_Rule Members Posts: 5,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This will only make us stronger. We should refocus our education on black colleges and keep crackers out.
  • twatgettatwatgetta Members Posts: 6,705 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LOLDEAD @Freedom Ride is over
  • ring vhamesring vhames Members Posts: 75 ✭✭
    not surprised...

    white men are scared...the irony is in a few years they will be the minority in this country and could have benefited from affirmative action
  • Recaptimus_Prime360Recaptimus_Prime360 Earned my Masters and Ph.d in Phat Booty-ology Members Posts: 64,802 ✭✭✭✭✭
    INB4 they undo Roe v. Wade
  • playmaker88playmaker88 Boy, I tell you that's vision Like Tony Romo when he hitting Witten Members Posts: 67,905 ✭✭✭✭✭
    funniest 🤬 is that white women benefit more from affirmative action than any other minority group.

    woop woop.

    Came to post this.

    We are in the great "Regression"
  • Darth SidiousDarth Sidious ..in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only warMembers Posts: 2,507 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • Jabu_RuleJabu_Rule Members Posts: 5,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2014
  • Jabu_RuleJabu_Rule Members Posts: 5,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
    HyenaKilla wrote: »
    FuriousOne wrote: »
    HyenaKilla wrote: »
    If you wanna go to school pay for it, whether by working or student loans, grants like everyone else....

    They gotta let you in first.

    Who is they? The "man"?

    🤬 all that....These colleges & universities are businesses that are primarily concerned about a student's ability to pay tuition. I'm living in Texas, originally from New York City & it was so much easier getting into college here, than back home.

    Affirmative action has nothing to do with how you pay for school.. You are mixing the issues. It has to do with admissions..
  • ring vhamesring vhames Members Posts: 75 ✭✭
    HyenaKilla wrote: »
    FuriousOne wrote: »
    HyenaKilla wrote: »
    If you wanna go to school pay for it, whether by working or student loans, grants like everyone else....

    They gotta let you in first.

    Who is they? The "man"?

    🤬 all that....These colleges & universities are businesses that are primarily concerned about a student's ability to pay tuition. I'm living in Texas, originally from New York City & it was so much easier getting into college here, than back home.

    yea...'the man'...they run the colleges you know...you think its a bunch of nikkas sitting on the board up there in michigan deciding who is getting in?
  • 1of11of1 Members Posts: 37,468 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Michael Eric Dyson eloquently addressed this topic earlier today on MSNBC. I wish I could find the video. Maybe later.
  • Darth SidiousDarth Sidious ..in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only warMembers Posts: 2,507 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2014
    not surprised...

    white men are scared...the irony is in a few years they will be the minority in this country and could have benefited from affirmative action

    I believe one of the goals of affirmative action was to amend for past discrimination so their would have to be a history of discrimination before they could benefit from 'affirimative action'. Being in a minority class in itself does not qualify you alone I believe.


    More info

    http://homepages.se.edu/affirmative-action/4/

    ◾While disadvantaged minorities receive additional consideration because of race (and the history related thereto), it is not true that whites would automatically gain more places in selective institutions of higher education if race were not a factor in admissions decisions.
    ◾In The Shape of the River, written by former university presidents William Bowen of Princeton University and Derek Bok of Harvard University, the authors pointed out that eliminating consideration of race would have increased the likelihood of admission for white applicants at selective undergraduate institutions from 25% to only 26.5%.
    ◾Given the overwhelming numbers of white applicants, and the factors that tend to benefit socially and economically advantaged students, athletes, and others, Gratz and Grutter (plaintiffs in the lawsuit against the University of Michigan) were more likely disadvantaged by their socio-economic or class status than by their race.





  • playmaker88playmaker88 Boy, I tell you that's vision Like Tony Romo when he hitting Witten Members Posts: 67,905 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2014
    Yeah and also minority is not just the numbers. By my personal definition ...its the wealth, influence and access only one of these will change much
  • atribecalledgabiatribecalledgabi DragonstoneMembers, Moderators Posts: 14,063 Regulator
    i think i've said this before on here, but i'm actually not a big supporter of affirmative action for colleges...i'm not saying do away with it but:

    for one, the name of your college is just a name unless you go or went to an ivy league school with a degree in something worth a damn. go to a junior college first & transfer...you have priority of admission & a better chance than somebody right outa high school.

    second, if inner city primary education institutions weren't so 🤬 up then anybody with some drive & consistency will be college bound. more cost effective than sending somebody through who came from that situation having to drop out of college or fall waaaay behind because their formal education didn't prepare them.

    that's a long shot tho & it won't happen any time soon.

    & there's also this
    FuriousOne wrote: »

    They gotta let you in first.

  • A Talented OneA Talented One stew Members Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭
    The t/s must not have seen this thread; most of these negros seem opposed to affirmative action.
  • Jabu_RuleJabu_Rule Members Posts: 5,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The t/s must not have seen this thread; most of these negros seem opposed to affirmative action.

    I don't recall making a statement of support or opposition in my OP. Actually upon further reading, you would notice that i make mention of this making us stronger in the long run.
  • BigBallsNoWorriesBigBallsNoWorries Members Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We are resilient people

    We will bounce back from this, whitey just hates the fact that we are getting better year after year

    the worst nightmare is an educated black man

    its sad but honestly anybody that SOLELY depended on that is just foolish

    Hard Work, Dedication, Determination, Relentlessness, Fearless>>>>>waiting for a system to give you an advantage
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