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SC Governor and Senator Calling For Removal of Confederate Battle Flag From Statehouse Grounds

skpjr78
skpjr78 Members Posts: 7,311 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited June 2015 in The Social Lounge
(CNN)South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham will call Monday for the removal of the confederate flag from state grounds, a source familiar with the decision told CNN.

Graham, a 2016 presidential candidate, will make his announcement during a press conference with South Carolina's Republican governor, Nikki Haley, at 4 p.m. Monday.

Lindsey Graham on Charleston shooter: 'It's him ... not the flag'

He will call for the flag to come down and be put in a museum.

Graham has been quietly urging his fellow elected representatives inside South Carolina over the past few days to make this move.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/22/politics/lindsey-graham-confederate-flag-come-down/index.html?sr=fb062215confederateflag2pVODtopLink





South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley (R) will call for the Confederate flag to be removed from the state capitol, multiple outlets reported Monday.

Haley is set to speak at a press conference at 4 p.m. ET Monday. According to CNN and AP, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) will join the governor and call for the flag to be placed in a museum.

Graham previously said the flag "is part of who we are," but that he would be "fine" with taking the symbol down.

Debate over the flag was reignited after nine people were shot and killed during a prayer meeting at a historically black church in Charleston, South Carolina. When flags were lowered to half-staff in remembrance of those who were killed, the Confederate flag -- which has flown next to the Confederate Soldier's Monument since 2000, when it was removed from atop the South Carolina capitol dome -- didn't budge, because it's held in place by a padlock. By law, the flag couldn't be removed.

Several politicians have weighed in on the flag, with 2012 presidential rivals Mitt Romney (R) and President Barack Obama agreeing that the flag should come down. Some South Carolina politicians had a different take, with Rep. Mark Sanford (R-S.C.) saying removing the flag "should not be the immediate solution."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/22/south-carolina-confederate-flag_n_7637644.html

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  • blackamerica
    blackamerica Members Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lindsey Graham is one of them secretly racist politicians you gotta watch
  • skpjr78
    skpjr78 Members Posts: 7,311 ✭✭✭✭✭
    whats 🤬 up is that lindsey graham is leading the charge to bring it down and not tim scott's black ass
  • phukkyou2
    phukkyou2 Members Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭✭
    Lindsey Graham is one of them secretly racist politicians you gotta watch

    #Stamp
  • jono
    jono Right fist = power, left fist = unity Members Posts: 30,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Take that 🤬 down. Its being used as s political ploy and likely not something that will happen but it needs to.
  • Kat
    Kat Don't @ Me to Dumb Shit. H-TownMembers Posts: 50,667 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's sad that this even has to be discussed or debated..it should have been in a museum a long time ago.

    Imo anybody that argues the issue is a racist.
  • skpjr78
    skpjr78 Members Posts: 7,311 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2015
    its not enough to pull down the confederat battle flag. there are numerous states in the south whose current state flags are based on the old confederate national flag.

    1st confederate national flag
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    GA. state flag
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    NC state flag
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    TX state flag
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    2nd confederate national flag
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    3rd confederate national flag
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    2000px-Flag_of_Mississippi.svg.png
    MS. state flag

  • Kat
    Kat Don't @ Me to Dumb Shit. H-TownMembers Posts: 50,667 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Slow down 🤬 ..Texas state flag is not included.

    Lone Star State, colors based on the US flag.
  • skpjr78
    skpjr78 Members Posts: 7,311 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kat wrote: »
    Slow down 🤬 ..Texas state flag is not included.

    Lone Star State, colors based on the US flag.

    the confederate flag was based on the us flag as well so whats ur point?

    1st us flag. the flag that was sewn by betsy ross
    revolutionary-war-flag.jpg

    the 1st confederate flag
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    TX state flag
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    TX state flag has the lone star replacing the confederate stars and swaps the white and red stripes. the TX and NC state flag are obviously based on the confederate flag with a few very small changes. everyone who sees the tx and nc state flags see the confederate flag. the only ppl who dont see it are those who choose to not see it.
  •   Colin$mackabi$h
    Colin$mackabi$h Smartass Snatch Money ave.Members Posts: 16,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ok, they can keep rattling the cages all they want, and keep the consequences all to themselves.
  • h8rhurta
    h8rhurta Members Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kat wrote: »
    It's sad that this even has to be discussed or debated..it should have been in a museum a long time ago.

    Imo anybody that argues the issue is a racist.

    I concur! When did losers get to dictate terms? Did they forget that they lost?

    At any rate, it is deflecting from the bigger picture. Getting rid of the flag doesn't change the mindset.
  • bgoat
    bgoat Members Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Took 9 blacks to die by the hands of a racist. She's just saving here political career. They need to get all of them muthafuckas up out of office.
  • CashmoneyDux
    CashmoneyDux Members Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Confederacy was literally racist treason and people still defend it. America.
  • Kat
    Kat Don't @ Me to Dumb Shit. H-TownMembers Posts: 50,667 ✭✭✭✭✭
    skpjr78 wrote: »
    Kat wrote: »
    Slow down 🤬 ..Texas state flag is not included.

    Lone Star State, colors based on the US flag.

    the confederate flag was based on the us flag as well so whats ur point?

    1st us flag. the flag that was sewn by betsy ross
    revolutionary-war-flag.jpg

    the 1st confederate flag
    1st.gif

    TX state flag
    tx_fil.gif

    TX state flag has the lone star replacing the confederate stars and swaps the white and red stripes. the TX and NC state flag are obviously based on the confederate flag with a few very small changes. everyone who sees the tx and nc state flags see the confederate flag. the only ppl who dont see it are those who choose to not see it.

    It takes two seconds to Google, boo.

    The Texas flag and it's design has no correlation to the Confederate flag.

    The Texas Flag Code assigns the following symbolism to the colors of the Texas flag: blue stands for loyalty, white for purity, and red for bravery.[14] The code also states that single (lone) star "represents ALL of Texas and stands for our unity as one for 🤬 , State, and Country." The "lone star" is, in fact, an older symbol predating the flag which was used to symbolize Texans' solidarity in declaring independence from Mexico.[15] It is still seen today as a symbol of Texas' independent spirit, and gave rise to the state's official nickname "The Lone Star State".

    The idea of the single red stripe and single white stripe actually dates back to the short-lived Republic of Fredonia, a small state near modern Nacogdoches which seceded from Mexico in 1826 before being forcibly re-integrated. The new state was formed through an alliance between local Anglo settlers and Native American tribes and the Fredonian flag used a white and red stripe to symbolize the two ethnic/racial groups from which the state was formed.[16] Though this rebellion ultimately failed it served as an inspiration to the later Texas Revolution.
  • phukkyou2
    phukkyou2 Members Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭✭
    "White stands for Purity"



    C'mon luv, you're smarter than that
  • Kat
    Kat Don't @ Me to Dumb Shit. H-TownMembers Posts: 50,667 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The same colors used for the US flag.

    That's not the argument.
  • Mr_Vicodin81G
    Mr_Vicodin81G Eating pain pills for breakfast Walgreens Pharmacy Members Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm a proud Texan born and raised but best believe some of these hillbilly craKKKaz still got stickers and wear shirts proudly displaying the Confederate flag. 🤬 stopped in a lil town on my way 2 Abilene and they was flying that flag with pride. 🤬 some high schools with the mascot Rebels were flying that flag at football games on the sidelines up until about 20 yrs ago. I love my state but Texas racist as 🤬 .
  • Kat
    Kat Don't @ Me to Dumb Shit. H-TownMembers Posts: 50,667 ✭✭✭✭✭
    phukkyou2 wrote: »
    Texas is just as Racist and Prejudiced as Mississippi and Alabama. And EVERYONE knows that

    Again, get out your feelings and stick to the argument.

    I'm not defending my red state or it's racist history.
  • phukkyou2
    phukkyou2 Members Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭✭
    Kat wrote: »
    phukkyou2 wrote: »
    Texas is just as Racist and Prejudiced as Mississippi and Alabama. And EVERYONE knows that

    Again, get out your feelings and stick to the argument.

    I'm not defending my red state or it's racist history.

    The actual Colors represent their actual views right? Their views were 🤬 and White Pride.


    You can get into semantics all u want but that's what it boils down to, since we are discussing the COLORS right?


    If you've never been in a Gang or never been affiliated with one then that's why you fail to see the point. I betchu you probably think all Crips wear Blue and Bloods can only wear Red.




















    🤬
  • Kat
    Kat Don't @ Me to Dumb Shit. H-TownMembers Posts: 50,667 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Imma need you to shut up asap.

    This the same dude that yelled Jimmy Carter in regards to a female on the $10 bill calling me a 🤬 ...you clearly have reading comprehension issues.
  • phukkyou2
    phukkyou2 Members Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭✭
    Go jump back in your hat Kat
  • skpjr78
    skpjr78 Members Posts: 7,311 ✭✭✭✭✭
    keep it real. this is a game of politics. it takes a 2/3 majority in the sc state assembly to get that flag taken down and i'll be shocked as hell to see that happen. what the governor just did was a great display of public relations for her state and a fellow sc senator who just happens to be running for president. she knows 2/3 of those cacs in the state assembly wont vote for that 🤬 but she can at least say she tried. politics is all this 🤬 is about
  • NeighborhoodNomad.
    NeighborhoodNomad. Members Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's like this, as long as we live in a society of white supremacy and white privilege the flag should remain.

    I'll take it step further and say as long as we live in a society of white supremacy and white privilege, the confederate flag should be waved above every capital building in this country.

    The confederate flag represents the true power structure in this nation.

    Removal of the flag will not erase the hatred from the heart.
  • janklow
    janklow god's lonely man. Members, Moderators Posts: 8,613 Regulator
    The confederate flag represents the true power structure in this nation.
    though, to be fair, it also stands for political concepts that don't exist

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